Go Back Natural Medicine Talk > Health > Colds, Flu & Fever

Reply
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
� #1
Old 11-16-2009, 06:11 PM
Beloved enlightener...always with us in spirit
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: S.W. Washington
Posts: 761
nightowl is on a distinguished road
Default The new pandemic has arrived

I had an email alert about this happening in the Ukraine. This doesn't appear to be the swine flu or regular flu at all. People are dying from hemoraging in the lungs as the first sign. Those with nebulizers should start treatments now, and we should all wear masks.

Reply With Quote
� #2
Old 11-17-2009, 08:13 AM
Lecturer
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Northern Ky.
Posts: 2,063
EarlyBird is on a distinguished road
Angry

Scary as Hello! Thanks for posting this, Nightowl!
__________________
May you always have..Love to Share, Health to Spare, and Friends that Care!
Reply With Quote
� #3
Old 11-17-2009, 09:23 AM
kind2creatures's Avatar
Moderator
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 4,230
Blog Entries: 34
kind2creatures has a spectacular aura aboutkind2creatures has a spectacular aura about
Thumbs down WHO

I have trouble viewing video clips on my computer, but I did hear a couple of minutes of this on the George Noory show last night, his guest was Steve Quayle. Here's an article I just read online:

Quote:
GENEVA � The World Health Organization says tests on swine flu samples from Ukraine show no significant mutation of the virus ,but wont release the sequence , so that , the rest of the world can see it for themself and see that indeed no change have occur in the receptor binding domain .
Answers to questions about such changes have been evasive, and the sequences have not been released by Mill Hill. The sequence silence remains deafening, and erodes public confidence in agencies controlling these samples and sequences.

WHO had sent an expert team to Ukraine last week after reports of an unusual flu outbreak.
The global body said Tuesday that preliminary genetic sequencing at laboratories in Britain and the United States showed that the virus in Ukraine was :
Similar to that used for production of the pandemic flu vaccine.
The sequence silence remains deafening, and erodes public confidence in agencies controlling these samples and not releasing the sequences publicly makes it look suspicious , like there is something they just don�t want people to see !!
-
-

Here are the latest numbers from the Health Ministry of Ukraine :

1,400,999 Influenza/ARI
78,326 Hospitalized
315 Dead

The above totals are from today�s report from the Ukraine Ministry of Health. The increase of 16 fatalities was largely in areas with newer infections and now only 1 of the 27 regions, Luhansk, has not reported a death (see map). The largest jump in cases was in Kiev, with an increase of 4,964 cases to 104,154. The climb in patients who have been hospitalized to 78,326 suggests patients are being hospitalized and treated, but the number of deaths continue to increase at a rate of 16-26 per day.

The steady increase in the number of fatalities continues to cause concerns of small genetic changes. WHO hasnot directly answered questions at news conferences, and the role of single nucleotide chnages changes in the high number of hemorrhagic fatalities remains unclear.
Poland is now also reporting fatalities, although not at the level of Ukraine. However, there have been a significant number of fatalities in Belarus, raising concerns of spread.

Release of the Ukraine sequences is long overdue.
In February of 2009 Bloomberg reported that Baxter �accidentally� sent vaccine material containing both live Avian bird flu and seasonal influenza to multiple laboratories worldwide. A laboratory decided to test the vaccine on it�s ferrets, but the ferrets all died unexpectedly. It must be noted that Baxter has made a �mistake� like this before. Blood products produced by Baxter once containd HIV. Thousands of haemophiliacs died due to this, and many went on to infect their spouses.

Moshe claimed that Baxter�s laboratory in the Ukraine out of all places was creating this biological weapon. All of this came out in the beginning of August, which is more than 2 months before the situation that is currently unfolding. For Moshe to correctly name the country where a new epidemic would be unleashed, requires either inside information, or an incredible coincidence as anyone with a basic knowledge of statistics can confirm for themselves.

British scientists suspect that swine flu virus has mutated in Ukraine. Some doctors say that flu in the country has shown unprecedented symptoms, creating the effect of �burnt� lungs, the Daily Mail reports.
A Professor at the Royal London Hospital told NPR today that the descendent of the current H1N1 virus was �accidentally� released from a laboratory during experimentation.

Professor John Oxford stated that the strain of H1N1 that appeared in the 1970�s was �probably released accidentally from a laboratory, probably in northern China or just across the border in Russia, because everyone was experimenting with those viruses at the time in the lab.�

Oxford told NPR that he didn�t believe the release was malicious but came as a result of �some flu vaccine research that broke out of containment.�
The professor said that the reason the new H1N1 strain has proven to be relatively mild is because a lot of people had �been exposed to a distant cousin, the H1N1 virus that emerged in the 1970s.�

There has been speculation that the current H1N1 virus was deliberately released from a lab due to its highly synthetic structure and the fact that despite being labeled �swine flu,� it seemingly did not come from infected pigs and no pigs have died from the virus during the course of the outbreak.

As we reported last week, Baxter International has been chosen by the WHO to head up efforts to produce a vaccine for the Mexican swine flu that is spreading throughout the U.S. and Europe.

WHO has just released its �Whole of Society Pandemic readiness guidelines� first prepared in April 2009, the same month the swine flu virus mysteriously appeared in Mexico City, and revised in July 2009.
The plan outlines how WHO will take over a country�s essential services, including water and sanitation; fuel and energy; food; health care; telecommunications; finance; law and order; education; and transportation under the pretext of a pandemic emergency.
Swine flu is causing electoral fever ,in Ukraine.
In a hard-fought presidential campaign, critics of Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko accuse her of stirring up panic to grab the spotlight from rivals by closing all schools and banning mass gatherings to combat what experts say is a relatively moderate outbreak of the disease.

The arrival of the virus has set off a cycle of one-upmanship and recrimination among leading politicians that has spread fear, sidelined minor presidential candidates, and, health officials say, caused wasteful hoarding by scared citizens of precious medical supplies.
Even the World health Organisation heads scientist holds patent for bioengineered swine flu virus and a lots of peoples have a stake in this mess , the British Department of Defense Got a Patent for a Vaccine for the Pneumonic Plague in August of 2009! What a perfect timing!


All of it looks suspicious and we should really get into it before it�s too late !!
__________________
"We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." ~Immanual Kant~

Reply With Quote
� #4
Old 11-17-2009, 09:43 AM
kind2creatures's Avatar
Moderator
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 4,230
Blog Entries: 34
kind2creatures has a spectacular aura aboutkind2creatures has a spectacular aura about
Default Copy of Patent

https://thefreedomlink.org/Files/Patent7572449.htm
Reply With Quote
� #5
Old 11-18-2009, 05:56 AM
Lecturer
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Northern Ky.
Posts: 2,063
EarlyBird is on a distinguished road
Unhappy Baxter Labs

I wonder if Baxter Labs has gotten too greedy? They used to be a decent Lab.
Reply With Quote
� #6
Old 11-18-2009, 06:32 AM
Beloved enlightener...always with us in spirit
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: S.W. Washington
Posts: 761
nightowl is on a distinguished road
Default

I have to think it's not just greed, but down right evil when they create or produce drugs intended to kill off most of the population. Do they really think they or their families will survive? I doubt it.
Reply With Quote
� #7
Old 11-24-2009, 05:10 AM
Reader
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Peoria
Posts: 132
RCannon is on a distinguished road
Default

Seems like the death rate is pretty low, 315 and is probably lower than seasonal flu.
Reply With Quote
� #8
Old 11-24-2009, 12:55 PM
Beloved enlightener...always with us in spirit
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: S.W. Washington
Posts: 761
nightowl is on a distinguished road
Default

RCannon,

The death rate has been low for swine flu but a new deadly strain that desroys the lungs, causes them to shrivel, and turn black as if burned in one day has been seen in the Ukraine, as in the video above, and they aren't even trying to prevent it from spreading. It is a scientifically engineered recreation of the 1918 flu virus, from articles I've read, purposely made as much, or more, deadly. They will most probably seed it to other areas in chem trails. The Ukraine is probably one of the first test areas. This virus is spread for days before an infected person shows symptoms. I sure hope I'm wrong, but that's what I'm getting from what I read about it, and I try to stay away from thrill-seeking gossip.
Reply With Quote
� #9
Old 11-27-2009, 08:19 PM
Lecturer
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: im lost, have no idea
Posts: 1,181
just me is on a distinguished road
Default

Supposedly this mysterious virus was reported to a radio program by that scientist that was arrested... I think we had a thread about him..... this is the link that was sent to me..... really interesting!

https://www.naturalnews.com/027503_Uk...super_flu.html

whoops, not sure if that was the right site.... this is the site that was talking about the scientist being arrested
https://imva.info/index.php/2009/11/i...ergency-alert/
I have never heard of this IMVA have any of you?
__________________
God is and all is well
~John Greenleaf Whittier~
Reply With Quote
� #10
Old 11-28-2009, 05:30 AM
Lecturer
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Northern Ky.
Posts: 2,063
EarlyBird is on a distinguished road
Unhappy Swine flu found in commercial pork!

Hey, did you all read one of the links on the right about pigs/pork sold for
human consumption having been found to have swine flu?
Just in time for the holidays when more people are buying hams to fix/serve
at parties, etc. Yikes!
Reply With Quote
� #11
Old 11-30-2009, 01:27 PM
Observer
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 13
happyppah is on a distinguished road
Default

I suppose thats one of the perks of being a veggie... u don't hear of carrot flu. i've been reading about antoine bechamp lately, and he discovered the cellular theory...germs and viruses etc are not nasty little critters, theyre just little life forms, it's our immune system thats gone wrong, and ifs thats the case which i believe also, theres no such thing as swine flu, just sick immune systems in sick animals. i always wondered why some people get ill and some dont. this obviously makes sense
Reply With Quote
� #12
Old 11-30-2009, 07:33 PM
Observer
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 3
berry3 is on a distinguished road
Default

This really is quite scary to read about. I new to this forum and I had not heard anything at all about this until I read it here. I suppose 315 dead is not a lot (unless you're one of the dead, of course!) but 1.5 million with influenza from this super strain or whatever it is sounds pretty bad.

Thanks for keeping me informed.
Reply With Quote
� #13
Old 12-01-2009, 04:57 AM
jfh jfh is offline
Super Moderator
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Texas, USA
Posts: 3,510
Blog Entries: 16
jfh will become famous soon enoughjfh will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by just me View Post
whoops, not sure if that was the right site.... this is the site that was talking about the scientist being arrested
https://imva.info/index.php/2009/11/i...ergency-alert/
I have never heard of this IMVA have any of you?
Their email newsletter is always very interesting.
https://imva.info/index.php/sign-up-f...-commentaries/
Quote:
Our Medical News Commentaries are the work and writings of Mark Sircus Ac., OMD, director of the IMVA.
__________________
-
- Jim

"If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?" �Will Rogers
Reply With Quote
� #14
Old 12-26-2010, 04:44 AM
Observer
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 1
txseawater is on a distinguished road
Default

We're having some trouble in the family and community. Symptoms acted like a bad cold. General aches, headache, sloppy sinuses, but you function mostly normally although you just want to go to bed. Yellowish discharge from sinuses. Progressing by day 4 to bronchial congestion. Blowing and coughing produced dark green globs for a day or two. You are still functioning without having to go to bed. By around day 5, you have an unproductive dry cough and laryngitis. It seems that sinuses have cleared by day 5, but you now have what seems to be a bronchial infection. If you can cough anything up, it's going to be green. The first one to come down with it is on day 12, functioning normally, but fatigued. The next member of the family is on day 9, functioning normally, but fatigued, and asthmatic attacks. The third member is showing all the same progression of symptoms. Coughing spells are deep and hard but with little production, even on guifenisen and dextromethorifan. The voice is slow in returning, and chest feels slightly heavy. We do not go to the Dr. and have been trying to fight this mostly naturally. People in our community with the same symptoms were going to their doctor by day 5 to be put on antibiotic and report feeling better within 24 hrs. The duration is what is bothering me, since it seems that one would be on the mend by now, but this infection seems really tough to kick. Any ideas?
Reply With Quote
� #15
Old 12-26-2010, 08:43 AM
Cookie's Avatar
Super Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: JerSea
Posts: 1,659
Blog Entries: 13
Cookie will become famous soon enoughCookie will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by happyppah View Post
I suppose thats one of the perks of being a veggie... u don't hear of carrot flu.

Ain't that the truth! ahh that was cute Lol
__________________
The art of medicine consists of amusing the patient while nature cures the disease
~Voltaire~
Reply With Quote
Reply Bookmark and Share

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Mag Citrate powder arrived today saved1986 Vitamins & Supplements 2 04-22-2010 03:20 PM
The Cure Has Arrived - MMS Marcus Alternative Therapies 655 06-18-2009 03:07 PM
Swine Flu To Hit Pandemic Levels Soon Arrowwind09 Colds, Flu & Fever 0 06-04-2009 11:28 AM