Not sure about fungal but my daughter who just came out of esophagus cancer uses the plant based. It has protease, ginger root, peppermint leaf, fennel, beet fiber and this company does not use GM crops to produce their products. It is called GI-Zyme by *********. Associate price is 38.50 but you will have to go to the web site to order as people cannot tell you it helps with disease and then sell you something.
plant based enzymes will not lead to fungal overgrowth. Nor will eating mushrooms.. lots of silly myths about fungus. I am attaching a PDF about candida. that I think is fairly accurate
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the intent of the article I put an attachment for is not to distract you from MMS bee,
but is another option in your arsenal for another time if needed
Thanks! We'll see if the MMS works. So far, I've experienced nothing but some gas/bloating...but who knows if that's from the MMS or just the usual annoyances of my messed up GI system. :-P
I go up to 3 drops tonight.
Have u heard of anyone NOT having any reaction to MMS (no nausea or diarrhea)?
Why does it take some people longer to react? Is that because they are more toxic, thus they need a larger amount of MMS to start killing the pathogens... or is it the other way around?
Have u tried the H202, Arrow? I haven't done much research on it, but the little bit I've read makes it sound promising.
Arrow, what was your experience with candida and your quest for health like?
Arrow, thanks for that candida report. I like dispellers of myth.
So diet does not work? Herbal 'killers' don't work? I kind of knew that in the back of my mind. Candida is part of everyone's environment as yeast. Since we can't really kill it off so easily, it is important to keep it in its yeast state. That means keep a good colony of lactic acid producing bacteria for the acid, and avoid alkaline producing protocols.
I think I will start back on h202 therapy. I started it once by taking one extra drop per day, but felt that I was getting nowhere. I think I will start again and continue to 25 3 times per day. https://educate-yourself.org/cancer/b...e17jul03.shtml
Bee, the detox depends upon your liver. If your liver is in good health, and you move gradually (one extra drop per day), you may not even have a reaction.
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I can tell you that my perfectly healthy 21 year old son took, what was it? 20 or 25 drops on his first dose and it affected him not.... not done under my supervision.
Not all people react... but most do especially if they up the dose too fast. When I started when mms first came out I started with 6 drops... most arrogantly
At 8 drops I was done in for a day or two. But shortly after I worked up to 15. That was the original protocol, but still you were suppose to start with one drop.
I have never been given convincing evidence one way or another just what causes the nausea reaction but from all the testimonials I have read I do assume it is a detox reaction because people get past it.
jfh, in that PDF the author mentions a way to take H202 that is easier on the gut... some formulated product but I didn't look into it. The one minute cure book talks of methods on how to do it too... but I will have to go back and look at it again.
Could you post the One Minute Cure book? That sounds a bit too good to be true, lol.
I'm having a hard time wrapping my mind around the fact that diet doesn't contribute. I'm sure it is part of this extremely complex puzzle. However, I doubt the extreme diets are really necessary.... who knows, though.
How does H2O2 therapy compare to MMS? I've heard them sorta being thrown together in the same paragraphs sometimes....yet I know they are entirely different.
Perhaps, if MMS doesn't work, I can try this H202 stuff. Did u try it, Arrow?
I am attaching a PDF about candida. that I think is fairly accurate
There is lots of good information in the article you posted.
The part near the end caught my attention. It is where they stated you need all your vitamins, amino acids, fatty acids, and minerals. This should have been placed near the front of the article since vitamin/mineral deficiency is a leading factor in developing disease, or in this case, candida.
Even if long term antibiotic use has destroyed the good intestinal bacteria, having no vitamin/mineral deciciency can still protect from yeast overgrowth because, as we are now finding out about vitamin D, genes are effectively turned on or off, creating substances that kill pathogens including fungi.
It is still my opinion that diet plays a huge role in preventing/reversing candida overgrowth, unlike the opinion of the articles' author. I also still think that natural antifungals, in combination with prescription antifungals, can assist in killing this 9 headed hydra known as candida. And it is still my opinion that you can't kill fungi while you are feeding it the very food it requires to flourish, therefore, it is still necessary to starve the fungi as part of the treatment.
As pointed out by Jim, and as previously stated by me several times, diet alone won't work against systemic candida. Fungi grow in layers, so even if you manage an effective treatment, you're only going to kill the top few layers, still leaving the colony to grow.
Nowhere in that article was there any mention of MMS, only H202, and they both work in the same manner. In fact, I think MMS would last longer in the blood, thus, would penetrate deeper.
There is one part of the article that states there is no medical test to determine if fungi is in the blood. This is true in the sense that fungi are much smaller than bacteria, and had to be looked at using an electron microscope, however, the problem is that most doctors are unaware that yeast fungi is even a health issue, so until such time that doctors are taught, the mainstream diagnosis will not change, and thus, millions of people will eventually be put on drugs and treated like mental patients..
I have been researching fungi for several years, and don't think that anyone understands exactly how they grow, undetected by the immune system to the point where they control the body. My best "guess" is that they grow as a result of a long term vitamin/mineral deficiency, and can be aided by antibiotics, fluoride, prescription drugs, and steroids such as birth control. The immune system does not "see" these organisms because they mimic normal human cells.
The best solution is to prevent fungal overgrowth with proper diet, including all the minerals/vitamins, amino acids, fatty acids, and taking a good daily probiotic. Tap water must be avoided as well antibiotic use unless absolutely necessary, and considering most of our antibiotic use comes from conventional feed lot meats, that is only possible if this type of meat is also avoided.
Add lots of sunshine, exercise, some method of dealing with day to day stress, and positive attitude. Remove any metal from your mouth, especially mercury fillings, keep your teeth and gums in optimal condition, and stay away from doctors.
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In the article, it mentions that the full spectrum vitamin supplement contain:
-12 amino acids
-3 efas
-16 vitamins
-70+ trace minerals
-phytonutrients
-antioxidants
And that this formula be in a liquid. Do u know of any brands off-hand that suffice this criteria (and that does not contain sugar or xylitol or stevia, as most do)?
Good to know that MMS is more effective. I hope that's so in my case!
Thanks Arrow! My Chiro actually had an awesome one at his office...I'll post the link when I find it. If u have a chance, can u go to my other thread to read about my chiro appt? I'd love to get your input (same goes for u, Jfh and PinballDoc!):
Should would like to hear some of your research links
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There is lots of good information in the article you posted.
The part near the end caught my attention. It is where they stated you need all your vitamins, amino acids, fatty acids, and minerals. This should have been placed near the front of the article since vitamin/mineral deficiency is a leading factor in developing disease, or in this case, candida.
Even if long term antibiotic use has destroyed the good intestinal bacteria, having no vitamin/mineral deciciency can still protect from yeast overgrowth because, as we are now finding out about vitamin D, genes are effectively turned on or off, creating substances that kill pathogens including fungi.
It is still my opinion that diet plays a huge role in preventing/reversing candida overgrowth, unlike the opinion of the articles' author. I also still think that natural antifungals, in combination with prescription antifungals, can assist in killing this 9 headed hydra known as candida. And it is still my opinion that you can't kill fungi while you are feeding it the very food it requires to flourish, therefore, it is still necessary to starve the fungi as part of the treatment.
As pointed out by Jim, and as previously stated by me several times, diet alone won't work against systemic candida. Fungi grow in layers, so even if you manage an effective treatment, you're only going to kill the top few layers, still leaving the colony to grow.
Nowhere in that article was there any mention of MMS, only H202, and they both work in the same manner. In fact, I think MMS would last longer in the blood, thus, would penetrate deeper.
There is one part of the article that states there is no medical test to determine if fungi is in the blood. This is true in the sense that fungi are much smaller than bacteria, and had to be looked at using an electron microscope, however, the problem is that most doctors are unaware that yeast fungi is even a health issue, so until such time that doctors are taught, the mainstream diagnosis will not change, and thus, millions of people will eventually be put on drugs and treated like mental patients..
I have been researching fungi for several years, and don't think that anyone understands exactly how they grow, undetected by the immune system to the point where they control the body. My best "guess" is that they grow as a result of a long term vitamin/mineral deficiency, and can be aided by antibiotics, fluoride, prescription drugs, and steroids such as birth control. The immune system does not "see" these organisms because they mimic normal human cells.
The best solution is to prevent fungal overgrowth with proper diet, including all the minerals/vitamins, amino acids, fatty acids, and taking a good daily probiotic. Tap water must be avoided as well antibiotic use unless absolutely necessary, and considering most of our antibiotic use comes from conventional feed lot meats, that is only possible if this type of meat is also avoided.
Add lots of sunshine, exercise, some method of dealing with day to day stress, and positive attitude. Remove any metal from your mouth, especially mercury fillings, keep your teeth and gums in optimal condition, and stay away from doctors.
It was like a light bulb went on the other day. My daughter's cancer disappeared even faster than we expected. I have known many who came out of cancer - some came out and as soon as they stopped taking the products - cancer returned within a few years. My daughter was kept on a fungal antibiotic for four weeks in the hospital (doctor did not want to give to her but we insisted and he did) She developed a fungal pneumonia which according to a friend who is going to be a D.O., 100% of it's victims die from it. She called us and told us to tell the doctor to put her on the medicine because they thought she was going down hill because they could not find the right antibiotic.
Also, I have a friend that has springs on her land. When the water was tested, it was the same minerals that a doctor is using to kill fungus in the body I read about. He gives treatments outside the U.S but says it has to insert it into the body. This water has been tested and drinkable and very alkaline.
The next thing I realize is after cancer eats into organs and the body, the immune system has to be ready to regenerate body parts like on Wake Forest and that is what we saw.
Could you send the information about vitamin/mineral deficiency causing fungus?
Hey pinballdoctor,
Do you know of anyone who has studied which drugs block vitamin/mineral absorbtion?
Example: Everytime I hear about someone with Neuropathy - I know they are on high blood pressure medicine. Online, the drug company says a side effect can be neuropathy. Most of the time, it has taken seven or more years.
I also wonder how one product could help with so many illnesses and come to find out fungus causes many illnesses.
Could you send the information about vitamin/mineral deficiency causing fungus?
If you look back into history you will see that rickets was caused by vitamin D deficiency, scurvy was caused by lack of vitamin C, pellagra was caused by niacin (B3) deficiency, and baribari disease was caused by a deficiency in thiamine (B1). In fact, all non man made disease is caused by a vitamin/mineral deficiency, so that would include several cancers, bone and joint disease, copd, asthma, skin disorders, and the list goes on and on.
Instead of sending information that is open to interpretation, I would suggest you look up Dr. Joel Wallach on youtube. He has several videos there and is an expert on vitamin/mineral deficiency.
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