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Old 01-08-2011, 02:55 AM
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A study published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, investigated the association between multivitamin use and heart attacks in a population of over 30,000 Swedish women between 49 and 83 years old.
In the women with no history of cardiovascular disease, the reasearchers observed that use of multivitamins without other supplements was associated with a 27% lower risk of a heart attack, while women using multivitamins together with other supplements had a 30% lower risk.
In addition, the association between use of multivitamin use and heart benefit was stronger among women using multivitamins for more than five years
- Higher Nature magazine, January 2011
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Shotgun approach. Not good enough. They need to determine which vitamin/s or mineral/s are the source of the benefits. Folic acid? D3?
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The point is that people who use multivitamins daily and particularly those who use them for an extended period of time are also likely to be "health conscious" and therefore are also likely to be getting regular exercise and NOT eating crap foods.
There are some things about multivit/mins that MAY be helpful BUT most contain magnesium oxide so do not significantly correct magnesium deficiency. Most contain inadequate amounts of vitamin D. and generally they contain the least well absorbed B12. The main reason they show any effect is that those people who take them generally are those who are looking after their health so it's not the multivit that is doing the good it's the healthy mindset that people who are motivated to looking after themselves generally adopt.
If you took the same number of people and gave 50% a placebo multivit and blinded the participants and placebos and those controlling the project you would probably find no difference between those who religously took the multi's or the placebos, and both those groups would do better than people who couldn't hack taking pills daily.

You would probably find that the number of blood donors was also higher in the multivit users, these tend to be people determined to help themselves tend to help others as well and requires the same type of religious dedication as going to church regularly, giving blood regularly or taking a supplement regularly. The bloodletting helps because it lowers your iron reserves and it's the iron that causes the oxidation that does the damage. While the antioxidants in the multivit may also help it's not necessarily the best way to make sure you are effectively correcting those vitamin mineral deficiencies you are most likely to be suffering.
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You would probably find that the number of blood donors was also higher in the multivit users, these tend to be people determined to help themselves tend to help others as well and requires the same type of religious dedication as going to church regularly, giving blood regularly or taking a supplement regularly. The bloodletting helps because it lowers your iron reserves and it's the iron that causes the oxidation that does the damage.
May be what led me to start taking an 'iron-free' multi in my older years.

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Shotgun approach. Not good enough. They need to determine which vitamin/s or mineral/s are the source of the benefits. Folic acid? D3?
I understand they are doing that - though we already know which vitamins and minerals are beneficial to heart health. Even so, it is refreshing to have the scientific community giving supplementation a positive spin for a change.

Given that much of the land used for commercial food production is nutrient depleted and given that vitamins and minerals work through a synergistic effect, then taking a daily MV makes good sense - and, as this study has served to reinforce, is beneficial to our health.
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The bloodletting helps because it lowers your iron reserves and it's the iron that causes the oxidation that does the damage.
Its nice to see someone else on this board who "gets it"..
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