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\nAbout a year ago, I suddenly started having all these disconcerting symptoms at once. My heart beats really hard, but not all that fast - it pounds so hard inside my chest that it\'s uncomfortable and makes it hard to sleep (which is why I posted in this section). It\'s especially bad right when I wake up. I have headaches most of the time - it feels like all the blood in my body has migrated to my head. These are also horrible right when I wake up. I sweat. A LOT. Feet, armpits, hands - always drenched, to the point that my skin is constantly pruned up and my skin is peeling off. I even leave soaked places on my sheets at night through my clothes. Lastly, I feel fidgety and trembly, which isn\'t very fun.
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\nFrom all your symptoms it sounds like you may have a growth on one of your adrenal glands, a condition called pheochromocytoma.
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\nA growth interferes with this action and it causes excess adrenaline even at rest, which brings on the excess sweating and pounding heart.
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\nThe excess adrenaline also causes high blood pressure(which can be intermittent), which could be responsible for your severe head aches. If you note from this chart the high blood pressure spikes appear to occur early in the morning which appears to be your worst period too.
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My heart beats really hard, but not all that fast - it pounds so hard inside my chest that it\'s uncomfortable and makes it hard to sleep (which is why I posted in this section). It\'s especially bad right when I wake up.
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\r\nI have had so many tests done and everything, but each time the results have been negative for whatever it was. I don\'t know if it even entered into my doctor\'s mind to test for this at all. I did see that this is rare, so I know that the odds are against me having this sort of tumor, but at least if I have the tests done, I can rule it out and try to keep looking at what may be causing my symptoms. It is scary to think that I could have a pheo though, because my husband and I were thinking of trying to start a family. I read about the grim prognosis for women who are pregnant and have them - frightening!
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\nHe did put me on metoprolol for the heart palpitations (25mg twice a day) when I saw him on the 12th and said that if in a week or so, there was no change, he\'d up the dose. I don\'t know, he seemed surprised that I asked him for something to settle my heart down and said, "Well, I guess we could try metoprolol..." No change at all as of yet. :\\
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\nmetroprolol is used for irregular heart beat and headaches... headaches which you do have but no one has said anything about irregular heart beat., which is different from racing heart and pounding heart , in my opinion. I is also used for hypertension. If you do not have elevated blood pressure there is a chance that it may become too low for you. Watch for dizziness and weakness. Check your BP if you can.
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\nI use to have this symptom and since iodine supplementation it is now gone. Lugol\'s iodine or iodoral tablets is the type you want. Many people here on this forum supplement with iodine. You would have to learn about it, as there is a learning curve regarding its supplementation.
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\nLiverock, I asked my doc for something that would slow my heart down and make it not beat quite so forcefully, as that tends to keep me up at nights. He is absolutely, 100% convinced that I don\'t have a pheo, so I guess that may be why he gave me metoprolol. *shrug* I can\'t tell that it\'s done a blessed thing yet!
\nArrowwind09, can something be termed "anxiety" without a mental component? I mean, I tremble and shake sort of like someone with low blood sugar (that\'s the only thing I can think to compare it to). I can be just as happy as a clam and relaxed as all get out (I am 99.9% of the time) and still trembling physically. Would that still be termed anxiety? I just want to be sure I have my terminology straight!
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\nAs I said before I had the heart beat thing as you did and iodine helped me. When my periods when wacko a couple of years later the bio-identical hormones seemed to fix all things... I think I am on my 4th year with them.
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\nAnxiety can have absolutley no mental symptoms. As a hospice nurse we treat anxiety quite a bit and often the patient will state that I have no reason to feel anxious. All things are well... well, as a hospice practitioner we know that a decline in systoms and a change in hormones and even systemic toxicity especially during the dying process can cause anxiety. It is purely physiological. Now Im not saying that you are dying, but I am saying that things are shifting around and causing a hormonal and perhaps other chemical imbalance.
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\nSeveral years ago (maybe 5-6) I had my hormone levels checked because of hardly ever having a period. The only thing that I can remember my doctor (not my current one) saying is, "No estrogen showed up at all on the test!" I thought that was a bit odd since, as far as I know, I am 100% female!
\nAlso (I didn\'t think about it earlier), but another thing that leads me to think this may be hormonal is that besides the period and skin issues, I\'ve sprouted a rather manly batch of facial and body hair. Unless I take the time to sit with tweezers every few days, I literally have to take a razor and shave my face like a man (how attractive!). I\'ve also grown caterpillar eyebrows, furry arms, a furry lower back and fur on my buttocks - not...ahem, in between, but actually *on* my butt.
\nI\'ll have to wait a good long while to see another doctor, I think. I live in a teeny tiny rural town and there are no doctors in my town but "good ol\' boy" GPs. I\'m living away from my husband because of his work and I don\'t have a car at the moment, having to depend on friends to take me hither and yon. I wouldn\'t feel right asking someone to drive me at least 3 hours both ways to a doctor who may or may not know what\'s wrong. Ugh.
\nI don\'t want to sound like I\'m not accepting your advice, it\'s just pretty crappy to think about how long it will be before I can see another doctor. Do "normal" doctors do the bio-identical hormone thing, or would I have to see an alternative practitioner? If "normal" doctors do do it, would I see a GP or a endocrinologist or...?
\nThanks very much for pointing me in the hormonal direction, Arrowwind09!\r\n
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\nI agree with Arrow. Now you have amplified your symptoms they all point to a hormonal cause.
\nLow estrogen can cause increases in testosterone which would increase your body hair levels as well as cause the varying periods and hot flashes. Lack of estrogen will also cause heavy night sweating as well thinning of the skin.
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\nYou could be going into (early?) menopause or have some other condition such as Polycystic Ovary Syndrome(PCOS).
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\nCheck with your doctor to see if he did a Hormone Panel Test and whether estrogen was low, although it may not be definitive as women with estrogen problems who have headaches usually have flucuating estrogen problems, so it may not show on just one hormone test.
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\nI guess if I was going into menopause, it would be a bit early - I\'m 30. I had honestly forgotten about having that blood test years ago - when Arrow mentioned hot flashes and hormones, I thought about it and everything seems to fit a hormonal cause for all this.
\nOK, I do have a couple of questions for you and Arrow (and anyone else that\'s reading this!):
\nShould I go to my doctor and ask for a hormone panel? I\'d rather not take synthetic hormones, which I know will be suggested if my hormones are out of whack, but should I just have my hormone levels checked to see where they are?
\nIs there anything at all I can take and/or do to help this until I can get to someone who can prescribe bioidentical hormones if I need them? In my town, there\'s a WalMart and a GNC - not exactly a treasure trove of supplements. There\'s a health food store about an hour from here, so I might could convince someone to take me there - they also will order things they don\'t have in stock, unlike GNC and WalMart.
\nI\'ve seen things like Estroven - could anything like that, or any herbs (I\'m thinking I\'ve read about black cohosh) be of any use?
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\nI have Googled, and the nearest Bioidentical Hormone practitioner is about a 4.5 hour drive from me, so it will have to wait a while, unfortunately, but I will most certainly go as soon as I am able!
\nHmmm...so I\'d need to be checked to see if I have PCOS, also? Eeep, that doesn\'t sound like a nice thing to have. Would it be a good idea to go to my regular doctor and have a hormone panel done and maybe my cholesterol checked?
\nI\'ll definitely give a progesterone cream a try - it will have to be better than the metoprolol! That stuff has made me feel horrible, never helped, and I\'ve stopped taking it. Would it be OK/a good idea to take Estroven and/or Black Cohosh until the cream comes in? They have both at the local pharmacy (I called), so I could do either or both.
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\nThat doc that found no estrogen did you a real disservice by not correcting the problem years ago. I just can\'t believe it! This is mal practice as far as Im concerned.
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\nI certainly would start some iodine therapy considering you have no thyroid issue. Your local doc can test for that. Almost everyone needs iodine. If you are hypothryoid you will have to have your thyroid tested before and during the first few months of iodine therapy because the increased iodine may cause you to have to have the amount of medicine you take reduced. Poly cyctic ovaries can be caused by iodine deficiency. Iodine feeds all of your hormonal systems. Do you have fibrocystic breasts too?
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\nIm just not all that familiar with how to supplement with hormones. Im not sure that progesterone cream is a good idea. If you have no estrogens to oppose it... I just dont know. All that hair should go away when you get on some decent estrogens. Soy products are high in estrogenic substances and may be good for a while. But get off of them the week before your tests are done.
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\nAnd all of this at 30 years old! Shame on that doctor.
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\nI would call ahead to the doctor you want to see who does bio-identical hormonal replacement. Tell them how far away you live. Ask to speak to a nurse. Tell her your main issues and that you want to be seen by the doctor and ask her if you can do the tests before you come. They can send an order to a local lab for the tests they want to do so have a lab fax number ready.. (also, they may know of someone who does this work closer to you so you may ask about that too)
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\nSome bio-identical hormone docs work off of blood levels as mine does. Others test the saliva. Either way works. If this doc does the saliva test they can send you the equipment and you can do it at home and mail it in. Then when you see the doc you will be ready for a diagnosis and a treatment, hopefully. They may want to check out other things too. who can say but it will be a big help to have the lab work done in advance considering the distance.\r\n
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\nI will do like you said - wait and do it right!
\nI don\'t know why my doc never did anything (she was a horrible doc all around, though - would tell me "Oh, hush now!" when explaining symptoms, etc.). I\'m sure she never mentioned anything about hormone replacement at all - just, "Well, you\'ve got no estrogen, so that\'s why you don\'t have a period."
\nI am going to contact the doc in the northern part of my state and see how he tests, cost (unfortunately a factor), etc. There is a doc that does bioidentical hormones who is about a 3 hour drive from here, but she is at a plastic surgery/anti-aging specialty clinic, so I figure I wouldn\'t be able to afford her at all.
\nMy thyroid function was fine when I had it tested earlier this year - right in the middle of normal range - so I\'ll get some iodine and see what that does.
\nIs there anything I can take, maybe something herbal, that will help my hormone business until I can see the doc I want to? Would it be dangerous/a bad idea to take Black Cohosh or something like that for a little relief (hopefully!) until I can get on the bioidentical hormones?
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\nI have found two websites that I think are worth reading. Seems soy is an option and you could drink soy milk, eat flax seeds, and perhaps dong qui herb... but I have no clue as to how much. Perhaps you can figure something out to try. I would not be afraid to try different things... I do know that soy is about as high as you can get in estrogens as far as a food goes. Go by how you feel. be sure to stop all this stuff about one week before your get your tests done.
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\nGenerally hormone replacement for the type of hormones we are considering here costs about 60 dollars a month. I have cut it down to 30 for my doc has the compounding pharmacy make the troche (a melt in your mouth candy like thing sweetened with stevia) twice as strong as I need it, so I only take one a day instead of two. I take half of that one in the am and the other half in the pm, so a months supply lasts me two months.
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Hello everyone!

I'm here looking for a bit of advice since I'm not all that knowledgeable on the subject of natural medicine. I apologize in advance if this is too wordy or posted in the wrong place!

About a year ago, I suddenly started having all these disconcerting symptoms at once. My heart beats really hard, but not all that fast - it pounds so hard inside my chest that it's uncomfortable and makes it hard to sleep (which is why I posted in this section). It's especially bad right when I wake up. I have headaches most of the time - it feels like all the blood in my body has migrated to my head. These are also horrible right when I wake up. I sweat. A LOT. Feet, armpits, hands - always drenched, to the point that my skin is constantly pruned up and my skin is peeling off. I even leave soaked places on my sheets at night through my clothes. Lastly, I feel fidgety and trembly, which isn't very fun.

Nothing happened when these symptoms started - no lifestyle changes, nothing at all changed. I just woke up one morning and there it was. I'm a very relaxed, happy sort of person, so I don't think anxiety is causing this - I never worry or feel stressed at all. I don't drink alcohol or caffeine or smoke. I have been to the doctor about this, and have had all sorts of tests done, like a thyroid panel - nothing. My blood pressure is normal. He seems most worried about the sweating and gave me a prescription antiperspirant to use - it did less than nothing (I still sweat like crazy and my skin cracked and bled), so now he wants me to have surgery to sever the nerves that trigger sweating. :\ I'm more worried about the heart aspect (I can't help but feel like it's going to wear out from beating so hard all the time!), but can't seem to find any help.

I'd like to try something - anything - natural, to see if it can settle my heart down, if only to be able to get a good night's sleep. Anything that could curb my flood would also be a miracle! I really hate taking prescription drugs and sure don't want to have a very expensive, unnecessary surgery, and would love to find a bit of natural relief. Like I said, I'm not all that up on the ins and outs of natural medicine, but I'd be grateful if anyone could recommend something to try or do. I don't even know if folks are allowed to recommend things on this forum (I just now thought of that, but I'll still submit my post for what it's worth).

I'll be grateful for any kernel of advice I can get! Thanks to everyone for taking the time to read this!
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