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\r\n \r\n <!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\n <!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n \r\n \r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n Controlling Blood Pressure Naturally\r\n \r\n \r\n <!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n \r\n\r\n <!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n \r\n \r\n I have a friend who has pretty severe high blood pressure that started with a vaccine that she received in the military about 30 years ago. Many of the people who got this vaccine got pretty sick and ended up in the infirmary. She toughed it out and never reported ill. It caused fever and weakness and she thinks she had a kidney infection but it was so long ago she is not sure, and she was so young. Since that time she has had sky high Blood Pressures causing her to need two pretty strong medications. \r\n <!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\n \r\n\r\n \r\n <!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n \n \nSince mms she has been able to drop one med but it is variable and sometimes she still needs it but she says she is now getting days with normal readings but it is not steady and predictable. \n \nSo this high BP was sudden onset following vaccination and kidney infection. There is no signs of vascular disease. Cholesterol is a little high but ratios are perfect. I think her vascular system is OK.... but we should get a homocystine level checked. \n \nSo I am looking for alternative treatments for BP that has its origin in kidney issues and probably adrenal issues. The typical rotor rooter for the vascular system I doubt will help her as that is not the issue. \n \nAny ideas?......thanks.\r\n \r\n __________________ \r\n <!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\n <!-' + '- edit note -' + '->\r\n \r\n �God is the basis of life, life is the basis of energy, energy is the basis of matter.�... Carey Reams \r\n \nVisit: www.HealthSalon.org \r\n \r\n <!-' + '- / edit note -' + '->\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n <!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n Last edited by Arrowwind09; 04-16-2010 at 03:44 PM.\r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n | \r\n
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Controlling Blood Pressure Naturally
I have a friend who has pretty severe high blood pressure that started with a vaccine that she received in the military about 30 years ago. Many of the people who got this vaccine got pretty sick and ended up in the infirmary. She toughed it out and never reported ill. It caused fever and weakness and she thinks she had a kidney infection but it was so long ago she is not sure, and she was so young. Since that time she has had sky high Blood Pressures causing her to need two pretty strong medications.
Since mms she has been able to drop one med but it is variable and sometimes she still needs it but she says she is now getting days with normal readings but it is not steady and predictable. So this high BP was sudden onset following vaccination and kidney infection. There is no signs of vascular disease. Cholesterol is a little high but ratios are perfect. I think her vascular system is OK.... but we should get a homocystine level checked. So I am looking for alternative treatments for BP that has its origin in kidney issues and probably adrenal issues. The typical rotor rooter for the vascular system I doubt will help her as that is not the issue. Any ideas?......thanks.
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