I have been examining myself a lot lately, thinking about things like that. I realize now that I have always been a tense person, and I know I have had constipation issues because of it. I have been very conscious of this of the past few weeks. The only problem is, I think its just one more thing for me to worry and be tense about
Kidding aside, I do think you are on to something, and it definitely doesn't help to have tension in that area, or any where. What have you found to be effective in treating your tension? Have you ever thought of acupunture, I have been considering it.
I have also been noticing lower back pain, and leg/knee light pain/light fatigue on one side. Not sure if they are related or even if I am just being extra observant. I always have been an overly sensitive person, which sometimes makes it hard to describe symptons.
I wish I could offer more ideas.. this is a very difficult condition that no one seems to know the answers too... one other option that may help is long term Olive Leaf extract standardized to 20% and Pau de Arco.
Is there a brand and place to buy the Pau de Arco that you could recomend?
I also read that it is recomended to take yerba mate with it as it increases the effect.
Thank you jfh.
As an update, I took my last antibiotic this morning, and there is no real improvement from when I started. I had slight improvement in the first few days, but the symptoms are back. The intensity comes and goes. I started using MMS 2 days ago. Yesterday I was doing 7 drops every 11/2 hours. I am starting at 8 drops 2 day, I still haven't noticed any effects, good or bad, I will keep updating on that. I am going to try some natural antifungals like grapefruit seed extract and olive leaf extract as well as Pau de Arco. I am considering trying fluconazole, but I would like to try the natural methods first.
jofus, fluconazole (diflucan) 10 day course worked for me completely. I had already tried 100mg+ daily for 5 months, MMS for 9 months, grapefruit seed extract, olive leaf extract, oil of oregano, Kolorex, colloidal silver, etc. My problem was a sinus infection for the whole period. Obviously, since the diflucan worked, it was fungal. Alternatives must have been too slow to catch up with the aggressive fungi.
Don't forget to replenish your friendly flora. Even if you still have your appendix, which is a safe storage for the friendly flora, they will need to get established as quickly as possible.
Maybe I'll try that first. What did you try 100mg+ daily?
What find of flora, and how, do I replenish after taking an antifungal? Can I just eat some mushrooms and bread?
For your friendly flora - yogurt, homemade sauerkraut, or kefir. Or find a probiotic, with multiple species, at your friendly health supplement store or even your local drug store. Friendly flora are good bacteria also known as probiotics.
What find of flora, and how, do I replenish after taking an antifungal? Can I just eat some mushrooms and bread?
This is the only probiotic I've used aside from eating lots of yogurt and drinking kefir now and then. I think it's a good product. I get the strawberry flavor and buy it at my local vitamin store. Here it's shown at Swanson Vitamins which is a reputable company.
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No gluten, no yeast, no wheat, no soy, no egg, no corn, no grapefruit, no starch, no preservatives, no artificial color, no artificial flavor, no sodium.
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That can be bought online, it doesn't need to be refridgerated?
So the same kind of probiotics I should take after using antibiotics are the same as the ones I should take after using an antifungal?
That can be bought online, it doesn't need to be refridgerated?
So the same kind of probiotics I should take after using antibiotics are the same as the ones I should take after using an antifungal?
On the label it says to store in a cool, dry place before opened, and refrigerate after opening. In the store, it's always in the refrigerated section. As far as I know, it's the same probiotics.
That can be bought online, it doesn't need to be refridgerated?
So the same kind of probiotics I should take after using antibiotics are the same as the ones I should take after using an antifungal?
I only buy probiotics online during the winter, even if they are shelf stable (no refrigeration). In my part of TX, it is upper 90s in the late spring through autumn.
Yes. Antifungals will also kill your friendly bacteria. Some natural antifungals are also antibacterial and antiviral.
I am defintalely having pains in my back, leg muscle and knee on my right side, that I do believe is related. Does anyone know if this could be indicative of anything?
Update. All symptoms gone (and with relatively simple change). What's the magic. Well, it's a little embarrassing to say, I wish someone had said something earlier, I wish doctors would stop treating this issue empirically with antibiotics and figure out what's ACTUALLY going on. But after months of trial and error, figured it out on my own and symptoms of epididymitis and mild UTI are gone ("completely"). Mason74 talks about fungal infection, and I've read the same on line that suggests this is "rare." Certainly, dangerous and very painful fungal (or Yeast) infections are rare ... but mild and irritating ones (where the immune system is working overtime to restore normal balance) is NOT (IMHO). My suggestion ... AVOID ANY LUBE WITH GLYCERIN IN IT (I won't mention any name brands). Glycerin is sugar, feeds yeast (which is a fungus), and over time can create an imbalance. Women know to avoid the stuff (especially if they are prone to yeast infections). It's time for men to learn the same.
If this is the source of your problem, it will take about a week to clear up. Yogurt or probiotics applied to area speeds up recovery (women will tell you this works too). But antibiotics will just make it worse!!! And if you're currently sexually active, you're probably trading the yeast overgrowth back and forth with your partner (and both going on antibiotics as a preventative � doctors told both of us to go on Doxycycline) just exacerbates the cycle. And remember � you're also getting a good dose of antibiotics from the water supply and any meat and dairy (if you don't buy the good stuff). You can also get yeast overgrowth in bladder, stomach, mouth, throat (as passage ways to prostate). Maybe you have type I or II diabetes, or compromised immune system for some other reason. Doctors need to take a full and detailed history before prescribing antibiotics. We're certainly paying them enough to spend more than 5 minutes with us (and getting rid of us with a flawed pharmacy prescription).
Can you please let us know which antifungal pills you took.
Thank you very much.
I have been looking diligently over the past couple of weeks for alternatives for fungal infection..
I have come across two herbs that may be of interest to you.
I have posted this in the cancer forum but you might want to read it as Pau de Arco is known for killing fungus... In the humid forsests that it comes from it is one of the most resiliant trees and it never gets fungus.
Also be aware, that is does cure some cases of cancer and well, many of us on this forum are convinced that fungus is the cause of many cancers... so I will send you to this tread to read about it. This herb is also reported to support healthy intestinal flora. Best to take in a tea form. Cancer pts take 8 cups a day. https://www.natmedtalk.com/cancer/208...timonials.html
Now there is another herb that has remarkable healing qualities called prunella vulgaris. Although this one is not known a lot for treating fungal issues, although it is mentioned in a couple of articles, and then we really have no proof that yours is, it is well known for healing many many things internal and external that has not responded to previous treatment, hence it is called Heal All or Self Heal and is listed under one of those names on the following website. Research does show that it has strong antimicrobial effect. Both of these herbs have been extensively researched and prunella is an important herb in chinese medicine. Reported to work well in capsules but tea I assume would be OK too.
It is also available at www.mountainroseherbs.com
A month or two of these herbs may do it for you. I would try the Pau de Arco first. Although many herbs combine well I don't know how it goes with these two.
For flora replacement I highly recommend VSL#3. do a search.
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