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Hello. I am 30 yrs old and I have had problems with my anger since i was in grammer school. I am married to a truly wonderful man (however i make him feel like hes the worst thing that has ever happened to me)....
I am always accusing him of not loving me, but when i am in a good mood everything is fine. When i get upset i can't let go. I get so bitter and "run my mouth" and I rage so easy.. I scream to the top of my lungs , throw things, and my mind feels like its spinning out of control. I constantly think I am always right. And i always feel that others have "done me wrong" and i take it personal...i get bend out of shape about the stupidest things and then claim that they did it becuase they dont care about me or have no repsect for me. I only do this at home around my family. if someone in my social life does anything to upset me ( even if they didnt mean to) i feel like they dont like me and get upset but i dont let it show to them.
Like I have said, this has been going on since grammer school. I am so sick of being this way, I want to be a better person. I just cant seem to control my anger, it;s like i have no fuse whatsoever. Once provoked, i explode instanly. Is there any kind of natural treatment I can do? I don;t want to take meds.

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Yvonne,
Since you are discussing your situation with some clarity I strongly suggest this book to you by Ken Keyes.. Handbook to Higher Consciousness....

Ken was a quadriplegic who learned how to let go of anger and start loving.
https://mindprod.com/livinglove/obit.html#BOOKS
I've only read this one book of his but it changed my life, a very long time ago. You may be able to find it on Amazon.

It will really help you to sort out your behavior and gain control and mastery.
Eventually the anger will go.
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Yvonne, you are a very, very honest person and you are being very candid in revealing your situation. I'd say that indicates you should have very little trouble correcting things.
Some time ago Andrew Salter wrote a book on psychology wherein he said that if one has a bothersome habit they wish to get rid of then the thing to do is to practice the that habit when you don't want to. It generally works. I think this idea originally can from France.
An other idea which might help and which (ahem) I can up with, I think, is to ALWAYS see some good in anything and everything that crosses your mind. By doing this the subconscious is trained to produce kind thoughts of others and, thus, the subconscious will guide you to say good things. Lots of luck.
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Yvonne,
Since you are discussing your situation with some clarity I strongly suggest this book to you by Ken Keyes.. Handbook to Higher Consciousness....

Ken was a quadriplegic who learned how to let go of anger and start loving.
https://mindprod.com/livinglove/obit.html#BOOKS
I've only read this one book of his but it changed my life, a very long time ago. You may be able to find it on Amazon.

It will really help you to sort out your behavior and gain control and mastery.
Eventually the anger will go.
Ah. I found the book as an pdf file last night..I look forward to reading it. Thanks.
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Yvonne, you are a very, very honest person and you are being very candid in revealing your situation. I'd say that indicates you should have very little trouble correcting things.
Some time ago Andrew Salter wrote a book on psychology wherein he said that if one has a bothersome habit they wish to get rid of then the thing to do is to practice the that habit when you don't want to. It generally works. I think this idea originally can from France.
An other idea which might help and which (ahem) I can up with, I think, is to ALWAYS see some good in anything and everything that crosses your mind. By doing this the subconscious is trained to produce kind thoughts of others and, thus, the subconscious will guide you to say good things. Lots of luck.
Thanks BigAl for your advice also. I plan on trying it daily. Wish me luck!
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Hi Yvonne! I feel very positive that you can and will begin to control your anger and not only better the quality of your life, but of those around you. Your feeling of anger, along with the way you express it, is just draining your body of energy. If you continue with your mood swings, you may lose something also that should be cherished, the love and caring of a good husband.

I'm very impressed, and in a way, feel like you're already on the road to change, because you're intelligent and insightful enough to know what's going on, and are able to express it to others in words. What helps me keep things in perspective, is looking at the whole picture of life, and not in a morbid way, but being aware of my mortality. Life is truly a great gift, there are many beautiful things out there to embrace, just watch a sunset or the stars at night, soak in the beauty of a wildflower in the forest, etc.

Too many folks waste years that they'll never get back. There are some herbal tinctures that help those with anxiety, to 'take the edge off', that may also help with anger. You may want to research Scullcap, Chamomile or Valerian, and use one of them for awhile.

The great thing is that you're still young and can have a fulfilling and happy life if you find your 'inner peace'. It helps to be thankful for all you do have. You really have a handle of what's really going on with yourself, use that as a tool. We're here for support, please keep posting and working this out. Here's an article that may have a bit of info that you can use.



Anger and How to Manage It

Anger is the feeling we experience when events in our world are not
going according to our plans. Anger is one of the most common and
destructive delusions affecting our minds. Because it is based on an
exaggeration, anger is an expression of our belief system and how we
defend it. It's as if we have an inner idea of how things, events and
people should be for us. When we get angry and either feel frustrated
or try to change them, we tend to give away our power! Many of us
remain a victim to our tempers all of our lives. In essence, anger is
the feeling we get when we want to control the world around us.

In Traditional Chinese Medicine, anger is most prevalent in the
Spring. It is considered the emotion of Spring. Although we can and
do experience anger at any time or season, it is Spring when we are
most easily angered. This is believed to be due to the changes of
light and dark and the balance between them.

It is very important to identify the actual cause of whatever
unhappiness we feel. If we are forever blaming our difficulties on
others, this is a sure sign that there are still many problems and
faults within our own mind. If we were truly peaceful inside and had
our mind under control, difficult people or circumstances would not
be able to disturb this peace, and so we would feel no compulsion to
blame anyone or regard them as our enemy. To someone who has subdued
his or her mind and eradicated the last trace of anger, all beings
are friends.

Techniques for Managing Anger

1. The first step towards managing anger, is to identify which
attitudes and convictions that many predispose us to being
excessively angry in the first place! Once these beliefs have been
identified, it is important to take steps to understand and correct
them, if need be.

2. The second step is to realize that anger is a natural human
emotion and it is not the emotion of anger that tends to be a
problem. The problem is the mismanagement of our anger. Mismanaged
anger and rage are the major cause of conflicts in our lives. This
mismanagement often has roots from our childhood that prevents us
from expressing our anger as appropriately as we should. These
factors include fear, denial, ignorance and impatience. These factors
can derail the appropriate management of our anger towards others.
Learning to understand and change these factors in ourselves, will
allow us to express our suppressed anger in a more appropriate way.

3. The third step is learning the appropriate ways of expressing
our " honest and legitimate" anger at others so that we can begin to
cope more effectively with anger provoking situations as they come up
in our lives. When we are anxious or depressed, we are often
experiencing the consequences of our suppressed anger. The problem is
that we have suppressed our anger so deeply that we succeeded in
concealing it from our own selves! All we are left with is the
residual evidence of it, our anxiety or our depression. When we are
depressed, very often we are also angry at ourselves without
realizing it. Learning to appropriately manage our anger at ourselves
is the antidote to much of alcoholism, drugs and sexual abuse.

4. The fourth step in the Anger Management process is to approach
anger by taking responsibility for our own reactions and behavior. We
can do this by addressing our anger with the following coping
techniques:

1. Listen to other people, first: listen carefully to what is being
said. Do not have a preconceived opinion before you hear what is
being said. Remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

2. Think carefully about what you want to say: before you say it.
slow down. What is the underlying factor in your anger? Fear, denial,
impatience?

3. Be clear about what you are going to express.: Your objective is
not to belittle, berate, be sarcastic or attack someone, because
their opinion is different than yours.

4. If their statement is pushing your anger button: know why! Try to
understand the root of your own anger. Look at why they have formed
such an opinion.

5. Express yourself by saying: "I feel angry with (you, them, this
situation) because..." Stay calm in the face of your own and the
other person's anger. The worse thing to do if someone is angry
toward you is to shout back at them! Be patient and ask questions to
get to the heart of problem. Try being carefully assertive, rather
than aggressive.

6. Make lifestyle changes. Making small changes in your life can
allow you to reap great rewards.

7. Get regular exercise: This can help to prevent the accumulation of
tension and will give you regular time away from everyday stress.

8. Learn relaxation exercises such as yoga and meditation. These
forms of exercise will help to release tension in a controlled,
healthy way.

9. Change your environment. Find alternatives for situations which
add stress to your life. Schedule time to relax and unwind.

10. Learn to express your feelings: either by talking to a friend or
by venting feelings in other ways, perhaps creatively through
painting, journaling or taking on a new hobby.

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Ah. I found the book as an pdf file last night..I look forward to reading it. Thanks.
You did? Thats great! Can you share the pdf address?
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Try This: https://www.scribd.com/doc/17658844/H...s-Ken-Keyes-Jr
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That's a great site for many great books. If you sign in, you can download. I just wish there was a way to bookmark places I need to pause. I'm a slow reader. It takes me a while to get through "deep" books.
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I believe it was Xania, who told me that anger issues were due to liver issues... Maybe a liver cleanse might help with the anger...... Im not sure how you would do a liver cleanse, but I have heard of them before
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In Traditional Chinese Medicine, The liver and gallbladder are associated with
Spring. They belong to the element of Wood. The Liver "system" is the "farmer
who cultivates". It stores blood, governs and regulates the blood, organizes the
"free flow" of Qi energy to promote circulation which cultivates our emotions,
soothes digestion, regulates menstruation and bile secretion. The liver changes
harmful toxins into substances, which can be eliminated safely by the colon or
kidneys. The liver is our master cleansing organ and the gall bladder is its
mate.

Enjoy a tall glass of water with a 1/2 lemon squeezed into it.

The Gallbladder system in Chinese Medicine is associated stores and excretes
bile (as in Western medicine). The Gallbladder governs decision making and gives
the courage and capacity to make decisions. Like the Liver, the Gallbladder
controls the sinews by encouraging the Qi to the fascia. The Gallbladder also
has an effect on our dreams. It is said that the Gallbladder effects the quality
and length of sleep, if it is deficient, a person will wake very early and not
be able to return to sleep. The Gallbladder's close relationship to the Liver is
not only anatomical but they both play an essential role in the smooth flow of
Qi throughout the body. In order to plan a good life (which is a function of the
Liver), one needs good decision making skills (which is a function of the
Gallbladder).

The Liver is the major organ treated in Chinese Medicine. It is the organ that
rules the free flow of Qi. The primary symptoms of Liver Qi Stagnation include
frequent sighing; inpatients, anger and temper outbreaks, a sensation of
fullness or congestion in the chest, intercostal, or subcostal regions.
Secondary symptoms include obstructed bowel movements; dry and distended eyes;
feeling of something being stuck in the throat; self-doubts and crying; pain
(especially intercostal and abdominal) that is characterized by moving, pulling,
or penetrating sensations; in females; premenstrual breast distention; menstrual
cramping and irregular menstruation.


You mentioned you take Milk Thistle and it does not seem to help you.
First of all it is one of THE best liver herbs on the planet, so my question to
you is, are you taking enough of the herb?

Does your nutrition and lifestyle also SUPPORT your liver detox/cleanse?

This is very important.

In Western herbology, these are three of my favorite liver herbs:

Dandelion Root: Dandelion Root can be made into a bitter tea (dont sweeten it,
the bitterness is how it works (you'll get use to it) as an excellent tonic for
the liver and blood purifier. Dandelion roots are very high in vitamins and
minerals. The common dandelion is an unusually nutritious food. Its leaves
contain substantial levels of vitamins A, C, D, and B complex as well as iron,
magnesium, zinc, potassium, manganese, copper, choline, calcium, boron, and
silicon. Worldwide, the root of the dandelion has been used for the treatment of
a variety of liver and gallbladder problems. Other historical uses of the root
and leaves include the treatment of breast diseases, water retention, digestive
problems, joint pain, fever, and skin diseases. The most active constituents in
dandelion appear to be eudesmanolide and germacranolide, substances unique to
this herb.


Milk Thistle: Milk Thistle is the best in cleaning our blood and liver and is a
traditional way to get our health back on track and revitalize and nourish our
entire internal ecological system from the ravages of winter. Milk Thistle is an
excellent cleansers for the liver. Cleansing is one of the more important roles
of Milk Thistle as it helps to prevent a host of problems our bodies can acquire
from internal and external toxic overload.


Burdock Root: Burdock root helps to purify blood and restore the liver to aid in
a restful sleep. Helps to reduce build up of toxins in the skin resulting in
boils. Helps gallbladder functions and stimulates the immune system. Seed forms
are also used.


In Chinese herbology there are several wonderful Liver formulas. You should see
your local acupuncturist/herbalist to get a proper pattern diagnosis first.

As far as a great multivitamin, I will recommend what I recommend to my patients
and that is Women's Synbiotic Nutrients. They are well researched organic
vitamins.
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ummmmm very interesting. but i had my gall bladder removed last year due to stones. So how would I do an liver cleanse?
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We all have two sides to our brains.
On one side we create ideas and initiate actions, on the other side we inhibit/ reconsider those ideas/actions. It happens or should do in just a fraction of a second but this mechanism depends on the ability of one side of the brain (inhibition) to modify the actions of the former appropriately.

The speed at which thought/counterthought are transmitted across the brain depends on the length of chains in the fatty tissues of the brain. So people with more longer chain, omega 3, fats are better able to inhibit actions before irreparable damage occurs. People with higher omega 6 levels tend to be more violent, aggressive and impetuous.

Here are just a few examples there are plenty more.
Evolutionary Aspects of Diet: The Omega-6/Omega-3 Ratio and the Brain.

Omega-3 fatty acid deficiencies in neurodevelopment, aggression and autonomic dysregulation: opportunities for intervention.

Aggressive dogs are characterized by low omega-3 polyunsaturated fatty acid status

The first thing you need to understand to improve the way your brain functions is that it takes TIME to eliminate the current omega 6 status. Most USA adults have around 20times too much omega 6 compared to omega 3 and the half life of omega 6 is 2 years so if you stop eating industrial seed oils such as corn, soybean, safflower, sunflower and cottonseed oil and any commercially made food that contains them by Feb 2013 you will be down to 10<>1 and hopefully by feb 2015 you will be about right.
But the GOOD NEWS is that improving omega 3 blood plasma levels has an impact on circulating omega 3 status and measurable benefits are recorded within weeks. If you take people with suicidal or self harm tendencies and ensure they take an EFFECTIVE amount of omega 3 then the chance of them repeating intentionally harmful actions are much reduced.

Dr Davis from Heartscanblog has pointed out which form of fish oil is best. Nature's Answer, Liquid Omega-3, Deep Sea Fish Oil EPA/DHA, Natural Orange Flavor, 16 fl oz (480 ml) $14.95 is the cheapest source I know of that triglyceride form (I've checked with the makers. I get mine from IHERB as shipping to UK cheapest. code WAB666 saves $5 for new customers.
One teaspoon provides 1.3g of omega 3 EPA/DHA I take 2 small teaspoons daily approx 2g omega 3. Keep the bottle in the fridge and make sure you put it straight back after you've had your dose. Don't let the oil ever get to room temperature after the bottle is opened. It tastes better fresh.

If you want to go into fish oil absorption in more detail

Don't forget that Sardines, canned in olive oil, tomato sauce or brine (not omega 6 sunflower or soy oil obviously) provide the best source. (UK shoppers try Waitrose Basics for cheapest/tastiest source) Some of the omega 3 will leach out into the sauce/canning oil so don't tip it down the drain add it to the salad dressing.

I should perhaps also have mentioned that the benefits of improving the omega 3 status of your brain partly depends on your overall anti inflammatory status. Obviously if the body requires/uses omega 3 to quell the inflammatory state of your digestive system or body as a whole less is available for the brain. So using effective amounts of anti inflammatory agents such as Vitamin D3 and mangesium perhaps curcumin as well will have an impact on whole body inflammation levels and this will spare omega 3 for use in the brain. Simply changing you gut bacteria to more bifidogenic flora improves omega 3 levels, though bifidobacteria don't contain omega 3, but they do enable your body to absorb more and make a better job of converting it from ALA.

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