MMS & baking soda for brushing teeth

baby · � #16 � 03-03-2008, 03:41 PM

What do you activate your MMS with? My teeth don't get whiter and maybe it's the activator.

scorpiotiger · � #17 � 03-03-2008, 08:00 PM

but if you activate the MMS, aren't you brushing your teeth with something acidic? wouldn't this be harmful to the enamel?

Iggy Dalrymple · � #18 � 03-03-2008, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by scorpiotiger

but if you activate the MMS, aren't you brushing your teeth with something acidic? wouldn't this be harmful to the enamel?

I'm leery of using it everyday, but I wouldn't hesitate to use it occasionally, and for oral infections and toothaches. My hygeinist warned me not to use baking soda everyday because it was too abrasive.

scorpiotiger · � #19 � 03-03-2008, 09:31 PM

I brush my teeth with soap. I wonder how it would be if I mixed a little with the soap?

but .. if the MMS mixture isn't acidic, I don't think it is active, right?

baby · � #20 � 03-04-2008, 07:26 AM

So you wash your teeth with soap, like Dr. Bronner's? Are they dentures? Or you put a few drops on your brush and put it in your mouth? Do tell. Powders interest me but they're very expensive. We've been buying Trader Joe's fluordide-free in a lavender package for $2.00. Even Tom's has chemicals not to mention all commercial brands.

scorpiotiger · � #21 � 03-04-2008, 07:48 AM

I use a plain bar soap with no added glycerin. I usually use Dr. Bronner's peppermint soap.. but, I will use whatever plain castile soap is available.

I have no dentures, all my teeth are just teeth. so, I require no special procedures.

I just take my toothbrush and rub it on the bar and brush. at first it was yukky.. but now when I use regular toothpaste, that seems overly sweet/strong. I've gotten used to the plain soap taste.. doesn't bother me at all now. gosh, I could have used profanity in my youth if I had known that I could have found a way around the consequences (of having your mouth washed out with soap)

here is something about the benefits of brushing with soap:

https://100777.com/health/teethcare

Mad Scientest · � #22 � 03-04-2008, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Iggy Dalrymple

My hygeinist warned me not to use baking soda everyday because it was too abrasive.

I seem to recall that a �Consumers Reports� article on toothpaste a few years back stating that toothpastes containing baking soda were some of the least abrasive.

scorpiotiger · � #23 � 03-04-2008, 08:00 AM

https://100777.com/health/teethcare

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Tooth cavities will be ended simply by rinsing acids off the teeth. ACIDS ALONE EAT THE ENAMEL. There would be no cavities in the world if all people rinsed acids from their teeth promptly. Just sip water, milk or other liquid while eating. Water reacts with acids.
Foods and drinks, other than those containing acids, have no action on tooth enamel. SUGARS HAVE NO ACTION ON THE ENAMEL.
Bacteria cannot damage the enamel (calcium hydroxy phosphate). There is no such thing as decay of the enamel since bacteria require carbon and hydrogen to live. Billions of human and animal remains show teeth and bones are resistant to earth-bound organisms.
Teeth reenamalize when clean. TO MAKE TEETH CL EAN ONE BRUSHES WITH ANY BAR SOAP. ( There are good toothpastes at the health food stores. Check the ingredients before buying. Don't get anything with glycerine in it.) Soap washes off in just 2 rinses. What about toothpastes? Glycerine in all tooth pastes is so sticky that it takes 27 washes to get it off. Teeth brushed with any toothpaste are coated with a film and CANNOT PROPERLY REENAMELIZE.
Taking calcium and phosphate in the diet results in reenamelization of the teeth, but only when they are clean. Bar soap does a perfect job in cleaning the surface. The enamel thickens and becomes less sensitive. Adenosine diphosphatase furnishes phosphate to teeth.
Gums are disinfected by brushing with any bar soap. Not only bacteria and viruses are destroyed promptly by small amounts of soap in water, but also white flies and aphids. (I must say, I haven't had a problem with white flies and aphids in my mouth ) Gardeners: Spray 1 tsp of dishwashing soap in 1 gallon of water to kill white flies and aphids.
Plaque, a poorly formed crystal stuck to the bottom of the enamel, is prevented and eventually removed by brushing with bar soap. Dental procedures to get the badly formed crystals off dig holes through the enamel. These cavities catch food and cause gum infection.
Prevention of plaque retards gum pockets. Gum pockets are formed as the plaque pushes the gums away from the teeth. Gum pockets, from 1 to 8 mm deep, are also formed by FLUORIDE, which severs the protein molecules adhering the gums to the teeth. SOAP PREVENTS GINGIVITIS caused by bacteria which is lodged in the gum pockets.
VITAMIN C AND PHOSPHATE help knit the gums back to the teeth. Pressing against the gums with fingers forces adhesive materials from the gums onto the teeth, which helps the process. Abscesses can be offset by holding Cepacol (14% alcohol) in the mouth 5 minutes.
Receding gum surgery will end when the gum pockets cease. The very mention of the procedure, which involves transferring flesh from the roof of the mouth to the excised area of the gums, is a heinous and useless procedure which ought to pass into oblivion.
Removal of flouride from drinking water, pastes or gels saves the enzyme adenosine diphosphatase so it can deliver phosphate to calcium at the tooth surface, resulting in a beautiful, semi-flexible enamel.
As stated above, the gums can be reconnected to the teeth by taking vitamin C (ascorbic acid) (1 tsp) with Arm and Hammer baking soda (1/2 tsp) in1 inch of water, letting it fizz and then diluting to 1/2 to 1 cup with water, then drinking. The resulting SODIUM ASCORBATE is non-acid, very pure and a thousand times more soluble than vitamin C. Sodium ascorbate is more reactive than ascorbic acid (C) in building connective tissue and antibody structures and more effective in killing some viruses and bacteria.
Receding gums and plaque are ended when soap is used for brushing and vitamin C is taken daily as described in #12
30% of American youths ages 8-10 have no cavities. 100% of Ugandan youths ages 6-10 have no cavities. What does this tell us?
The reason Ugandan youths have 3 times better teeth than American youths is because they do not consume as many acid foods, have no fluoride in their drinking water, have regular meals rather than sipping acid drinks all day, have more calcium and phosphate in their diet, and have fewer dentists to work on their teeth.

baby · � #24 � 03-04-2008, 02:56 PM

Thank you for the link and now the text. I'm going to try Dr. Bronner's peppermint soap for brushing along with the vitamin C/baking soda drink.

baby · � #25 � 03-05-2008, 10:27 AM

The vit C and baking soda combo works fine. I just have to keep it several hours away from MMS.

I put way too much of the concentrated peppermint soap on my brush and tried only the tiniest amount of soap this morning which worked very well. My men at home are scoffing but I'm going to give them the chemist's letter in its entirety to learn for themselves. And yes, Trader Joe's does have glycerine in its toothpaste which is disappointing! Does Tom's? Anyway, why not use soap? I've got a gallon of it.

Harry Hirsute · � #26 � 03-05-2008, 12:11 PM

ST,

Do you think there would be any harm in using the liquid form of Dr. Bronner's soap? It sure would be more convenient and hygienic, I would think.

scorpiotiger · � #27 � 03-05-2008, 12:23 PM

I think the main thing that you are trying to avoid by using soap is a bunch of added glycerine. Judd says it is the glycerine that coats the tooth and prevents it from re-enamelizing. the glycerine in bronners soap is the glycerine that is naturally in the oils. I don't think they add glycerine.

so, look at the ingredients. if no added glycerine, if it is pretty basic "soap", then yes, I would say that would be fine. Also, you will see "tooth soaps with no glycerin". you can see what they put in them.

but.. you see my concern with brushing your teeth with something acid. yes, you eat acidic foods, but you don't brush your teeth with them.

I guess another good piece of advice is just to rinse your mouth with water after a meal. easy peasy.

Harry Hirsute · � #28 � 03-05-2008, 12:57 PM

Here are the ingredients for the liquid Dr. B's soap:

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Water, Saponified Organic Coconut & Organic Olive Oils (w/Retained Glycerin), Organic Hemp Oil, Organic Jojoba Oil, Organic Peppermint Oil, Organic Mentha Arvensis, Citric Acid, Vitamin E.

And here's the ingredients for the bar-version:

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Saponified organic coconut, organic palm & organic olive oils (w/retained glycerin), water, organic hemp oil, organic jojoba oil, organic peppermint oil, organic mentha arvensis, salt, citric acid, vitamin E.

The only differences I can see is that the bar contains organic palm oil and salt (and a lower-percentage of water).

So, it looks like the liquid would likely be okay? What say you?

edit: Just found this ...

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For toothbrushing, apply a drop or two of Dr. Bronner’s Magic Soap (I prefer the peppermint) to a wet toothbrush. Brush as you normally would, rinsing accordingly. Be careful about using more than a couple drops of soap, as you might start foaming at the mouth ...

https://www.drbronner.com/faqs_main.html#faq6

scorpiotiger · � #29 � 03-05-2008, 01:13 PM

I think it would be fine.

Harry Hirsute · � #30 � 04-01-2008, 10:11 AM

Just fixing the link from my previous post ...

https://www.drbronner.com/faqs_main.html#faq6

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