the NZymes Yeast Pgm uses Sodium Chlorite solution
The NZymes Yeast program is interesting in that it incorporates their sodium chlorite solution product (Ox-E-Drops: 5% sodium chlorite + 95% reverse osmosis water) into a program with a schedule. I was looking at this and wondering how this would translate into a "people program" for similar problems using MMS.
The Nzyme Yeast program seems to have some very good results. Here are some testimonies with pictures:
I have looked at this program to figure out what they are doing .. I've often thought that the MMS action of killing pathogens should be followed by some kind of boosting of the immune system. I'm wondering if this is what they are doing here... although they recommend the ongoing use of Ox-E-Drops.
Their program consists of 3 sections of "healing" (my term), then with an ongoing "maintenance" program (my term).
It uses these ingredients:
Ox-E-Drops : 5% Sodium Chlorite with 95 % reverse osmosis water
Granules or Anti-oxidant treats (the same thing, but different form) - consists of enzymes in the form of sprouts)
normal dose of granules (according to pet's weight)
ox-e-drops mixed with water and added to food (not activated.. unlike mms)
ox-e-drops - a couple of drops added to drinking water
so, basically, i think this is just to introduce the pet to the sodium chlorite and add some enzymes to their diet.
Week 2 - for 60 days (2 months)
double dose of granules
add double dose of Blackleaf
keep giving the ox-e-drops.. same dose
so.. add herbal anti-bacterial/etc. mix to I guess.. get rid of any other problems. boost the enzymes. and keep up the sodium chlorite
Week 4 - through the end of the 60 days
add in the BakPak Plus (the pro-biotics and digestive enzymes)
so.. after 2 weeks of a "killing pathogens program" ... add in the pro-biotics and digestive enzymes
---------- Maintenance:
everything.. but normal recommended dosage
keep up the pathogen killing part.. but fall back to normal suggested dosage.
and keep up the boosters.. the enzymes and probiotics.
you can find updated information on mms at MMS - Miracle Mineral Solution
the standard MMS protocol has nothing in it about using anything other than MMS. And this is fine for getting rid of a problem.
but the NZymes program seems to be incorporating sodium chlorite as part of a system that seems to be geared toward not only getting rid of pathogens, but correcting the digestive system and I assume building up the immune system to keep the problem from recurring.
Like Arrowwind has said, it is more than just getting rid of a pathogen, it is also about trying to balance/strengthen your digestive/immune system.
Last edited by scorpiotiger; 12-27-2008 at 11:08 PM.
When I was using the MMS protocol, I finally reached a plateau. I suppose that happens with most protocols. It was a point when I felt that my fungus was winning; and I was not going to continue with 15 drops of MMS twice daily. I felt as if I was in a "forever detox".
Then I discovered that the protocol could be enhanced with the use of an antifungal. There are several that I tried. Oil of oregano, olive leaf extract, colloidal silver. With Candida we know that we have to rotate antifungals; because the fungi adapts.
I found horopito to finally give me some success. At least the fungus was not returning to the skin and nails of my body. I also felt some internal symptoms being relieved. Horopito is the ingredient of Kolorex and can be found at Swanson's for very inexpensive.
Horopito is found in New Zealand. Studies conducted by the Cawthron Institute in Nelson, New Zealand, show that dried, milled horopito leaf is effective at killing Candida albicans in an in vitro environment. When compared to other natural antifungal compounds, such as sodium caprylate, pau d�arco or grape seed extract, milled horopito leaf produces a far lower minimum inhibitory concentration.
"Polygodial exhibits fungicidal activity against yeast-like fungi. This is in comparison to the actions of some of the fungistatic triazoles, such as fluconazole. It has been reported in literature that the antifungal activity of polygodial is the result of structural disruption of cell membranes, leading to cell leakage and, ultimately, cell death. Radioactive monomer incorporation studies have shown no selective inhibition of uptake in polymers of DNA, RNA, protein or polysaccharide, as all uptake tapered off after 60 minutes. Polygodial produces amounts of potassium leakage from yeast cells, similar to those produced by amphotericin B and miconazole."
https://www.nutritionalwellness.com/archives/2007/may/05_horopito.php
So now I feel that the fungus is under control. What's left? What is causing me to suffer chronic sinusitis and constipation? Leaky Gut Syndrome, I think. It seems that I am allergic to all foods. My sinuses even swell whenever I take probiotics of all things. The friendly bacteria do not seem to stay in the gut.
"If the friendly bacteria are disrupted by such things as antibiotic abuse, Candida can increase it's numbers drastically and become a more dominant member of the "intestinal zoo". When this happens it spells trouble for the human host. As Candida is a yeast, it produces alcohol (ethanol) and acetaldehyde (this is the chemical responsible for the main symptoms of a hangover) as the major products of its metabolism. In healthy individuals alcohol can be detected in the blood from exactly this source but it is at a level that doesn't cause any problems as the bodies detoxification systems can cope with it. If however you have an overgrowth of intestinal Candida, the levels of alcohol entering the bloodstream are going to be greatly increased. In a study conducted by doctors at Biolab in London, UK, a number of chronically unwell patients were tested for blood ethanol levels an hour after ingesting a sugar solution. The study found the patients consistently had high blood levels of ethanol which the researchers concluded came from small intestinal yeast overgrowth. To make this situation worse, when Candida has a foothold it is free to transform into the fungal form and its branching hyphae can penetrate the intestinal wall. This makes the intestine more permeable (Leaky Gut Syndrome) so more of the toxic alcohol and acetaldehyde are absorbed into the body. Also with a highly permeable intestine, the Candida themselves may actually be able to slip through and gain access to the rest of the body causing chronic immune reactions like allergies and autoimmune diseases." -Intestinal Dysbiosis and the Causes of Disease - Dr. Leo Galland
Would that be like having a hang-over all the time?
MMS cannot cure all things; but it can sure make it easier to get rid of pathogens and allow the immune system to work more efficiently. I'm sure it helps to assist the MMS protocol.
leaky gut is a complicated disease state with multiple causes. Of course getting rid of the fungus is essential but you have to remember that candida is a natural cohabitant of the gut. Healing the lining of the gut is what is needed.
I am reposting this protocol developed in Germany to repair Leaky Gut. This was written by a german physician who uses homeopathic medicine. If anyone here wants to try the protocol I can help them to get the remedies at wholesale price. I have known this protocol to be effective for people.
Leaky Gut Syndrome
Part of the causes of leaky gut is from the use of antibiotics and steriods. These medications devastate the gut bacteria and cause larger than normal wholes in the wall of the intestines in which bacteria and undigested particles, and antigens can migrate into the body and bloodstream. The most common outcome is allergies, inflamation, malnutrition and bacterial dysbiosis, hepatic stress. Candida is a normal flora in the gut but after too much antibiotic it can mutate to a dangerous form that damages t he gut wall and can invade other body systems via the blood stream.
There is a test that can be done for leaky gut if you can find a doctor willing to do it. The patient takes 5grams of lactulose and 5grams of mannitol. Theses sugars are normally not absorbed into the body or absorbed in very low levels. It the gut is leaky a large amt of these sugars can be found in the urine about 6 hours later.
If leaky gut is found then a program to heal the lining of the gut needs to be initiated. Diseases that this can lead to are irritable bowel syndrome, celiac disease, pancreatic insfficiency, hepatic dysfunction, exezema, psoriasis, uticaria, acne dermatitis herpeitiformis, infectous enterocolitis, RA, spodylarthropathies,
chronic fatique, food and chemical sensitivities, cancer, autism, CF, hyperactivity. (and in my opinion, much more than they list)
This information came from Dr Szallasi MD from his article posted in the International Journal of Integrated Medicine. It seems that this issue of Leaky Gut is well recognized and studied in Europe. I have had opportunity to ask several GI doctors here in the states over the past 10 years and none have heard of leaky gut syndrome!
Leaky Gut Treatment
taken from International Journal of Integrated Medicine
Alta Smit MD, MBBCH, MSHom
Most treatments take 3 to 4 months
detection: the test describes on the previous post with the 2 sugars or
a detailed questionaire if the test is not avaiable, detection of food intolerance,detection of bacterial growth from stool sample or vaginal swap that reveals bacterial or fungal overgroth
Treatment: remove, replace, reinoculate, repair.
REMOVE: Citricidal start with 2 drops 2xday. work up to 6 drops 2xday and Caprilic acid, (Ca prilex) 6 tabs a day.
all yeast and fermented foods eliminated for 3 months.
Severe cases may require a broad spectrum anti fungal like nysatin for 5 days or more. Also treat for parasites and other enteropathogens.
Avoid all foods that cause intolerance for 12 weeks. This will help calm down the senitized immune system. If tests for food tolerance are not available avoid the most common allergy producing foods, wheat, soy, dairy, refined sugar, additives, etc
alcohol, cafffeine and NSAIDS need to be avoided. Indomethacin is concentrated in the bile and creates a toxic bile that damages the mucosa of the bowel. Nabumetone is a safer chice and will not increase intestinal permeablity.
REPLACE:
Hydrochloric acid in pill form, or
L-histidine, an essental fatty acid of 500 mg bid.
enzymatic enzyme replacement with pancreatic enzymes orpland derived proteases, amylases, lipases, and cellulases ( especially if there is malabsorption). Enzyme deficiency include prolonged feeling of bloating after meals, belching, undigested food particles in stool, diarrhea or loose stools
REINOCULATE:
friendly bacteria or probiotics. Do this after remove and replace.
add FOS to the probiotics
REPAIR:
Rice protien is least allergic and can provide a basis to diet.
L-glutamine 3,600mg per day during the initial phase
vits b5, C, E
Zinc, for tissue repair
Gamma Linoleic acid (GLA) this will helpdecrease permeability. 6 caps a day
Fiber, hypoallergenic insolubile fiber is best
Glutathione and N-acetyl cystine - because glutathione is poorly absorbed in the gut it should be given with with two of its building blocks, custeine andlysine.
Inulin - found from Jerusalem artichoke
Rice Bran Oil -
Mucosa Compositum from Heel Homeopathics will stimulate the healing of the gut lining. oral vials given 3 times a week on an empty stomach for two weeks.
NOW: a product called Ultra Clear developed by Heathcomm International Inc. combines all of the above except the Mucosa Compositum from Heel.
Homeopathy, acupuncture and ozone therapy can provide powerful adjuncts.
Other homeopathics from Heel that may assist:
Liver overload:
Nux vomica Homaccord
Hepeel
Gut repair:
Mucosa compostum
Pancreatic Support:
Leptandra compositum
Inflammation:
Traumeel
Detoxification
BHI Body Pure
Many health food stores sell at least a couple of the Heel products. If they don’t have the one that you need you can have them special order them. If you have a lisence such as a nurse or doctor you can order them wholesale.
For the Ultra clear I found a regional distributor: Metagenics 1-800-869-8100 that is for a Texas when I lived there. They could help you find someone in your area. I just recently noticed that my physician also sells this product here in Utah, so you should be able to find it somewhere.
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leaky gut is a complicated disease state with multiple causes. Of course getting rid of the fungus is essential but you have to remember that candida is a natural cohabitant of the gut. Healing the lining of the gut is what is needed.
I am reposting this protocol developed in Germany to repair Leaky Gut. This was written by a german physician who uses homeopathic medicine. If anyone here wants to try the protocol I can help them to get the remedies at wholesale price. I have known this protocol to be effective for people.
Leaky Gut Syndrome
Part of the causes of leaky gut is from the use of antibiotics and steriods. These medications devastate the gut bacteria and cause larger than normal wholes in the wall of the intestines in which bacteria and undigested particles, and antigens can migrate into the body and bloodstream. The most common outcome is allergies, inflamation, malnutrition and bacterial dysbiosis, hepatic stress. Candida is a normal flora in the gut but after too much antibiotic it can mutate to a dangerous form that damages t he gut wall and can invade other body systems via the blood stream.
There is a test that can be done for leaky gut if you can find a doctor willing to do it. The patient takes 5grams of lactulose and 5grams of mannitol. Theses sugars are normally not absorbed into the body or absorbed in very low levels. It the gut is leaky a large amt of these sugars can be found in the urine about 6 hours later.
Barbara, this is very interesting. I hear about leaky gut all the time (usually as the cause of everything with everyone thinking that they have it). But here is a way to see if this is really the problem. And if it is a problem, then I would think it is a problem you would want to fix as soon as possible.
I looked up lactulose and mannitol:
lactulose (from a vet site.. but sometimes veterinary information is more straightforward than people sites): Lactulose
Quote:
HOW THIS MEDICATION WORKS
Sugar molecules are common biochemicals and the chances are you have heard of their various scientific names. Fructose, for example, is the natural sugar that sweetens fruit. Sucrose is table sugar. Glucose is the basic sugar our bodies depend on for fuel and ultimately within our bodies, other sugars are converted to glucose for either storage or immediate use.
Lactulose is a disaccharide: a sugar molecule composed of two smaller sugar molecules bonded together, in this case fructose and galactose. (The suffix “ose” denotes a sugar molecule.) Mammals and birds are not able to digest lactulose so it passes unabsorbed from the mouth all the way down to the large intestine. There, the resident large numbers of bacteria are able to digest the lactulose and consume it as their own food. In doing so these bacteria produce lactic, acetic, and formic acid as well as carbon dioxide gas. These acids biochemically draw fluid into the bowel which softens the stool, hence the common use of lactulose as a laxative.
The generation of these acids also acidifies the colon contents which attracts ammonia from the bloodstream and traps it there to be excreted with the stool. This is very helpful for patients in liver failure as their diseased livers are not able to detoxify ammonia; excess ammonia in the blood stream leads to a form of dementia called “hepatic encephalopathy.” Colon acidification removes ammonia from the bloodstream by trapping it in the stool to be passed from the body.
Basically, lactulose is primarily used as a stool softener or in the treatment of liver patients as described above.
SIDE EFFECTS
Obviously, diarrhea can be a side effect of using a stool softener. This can usually be controlled by administering less lactulose.
Gas or cramping may result from lactulose usage.
INTERACTIONS WITH OTHER DRUGS
The stool softening effect of lactulose is compounded by the use of additional laxatives. This may or may not be desirable.
CONCERNS AND CAUTIONS
Lactulose should be stored at room temperature away from light. If lactulose has been prescribed to you in a clear plastic bottle, be sure to store it in a cabinet or inside a bag. If lactulose is not stored properly, it can become cloudy or darkened but this does not affect the efficacy of the drug.
Lactulose is very sweet tasting and can be objectionable to some animals. Because it is a syrup, it can create a sticky mess in the fur around the face.
Lactulose should not be taken by diabetics. Even though lactulose is not readily absorbed by the mammalian intestine, there is still a small percentage which is absorbed. In addition, there may be some unbound fructose or galactose in the syrup, enough to be a problem for a well-regulated diabetic.
when I was reading about mannitol, and realized it was a sugar alcohol, it made me think of a conversation I had a long time ago on another board about "sugar-free" chocolates.
a few years ago, my husband got me a small box of "sugar free" chocolates. I ate them within 2 days.. much to my regret. I ended up having to stay close to the restroom.
I joke that the reason these chocolates were promoted as a diet aid was because of all the exercise you got running to the bathroom. well.. it was interesting the responses I got because some of the women had never gotten this response (or not to the extent that I did) and others were nodding YES, YES, I know what you mean.
I also remember reading that food sweetened with these sugar alcohols would have very different effects for people on low carb diets. Some people could eat them without a problem.. other people.. it would knock them out of the water. Remember, a lot of people test their urine with ketostix, and if you are digesting enough sugar, you won't show ketosis. so.. now I'm wondering if the differences in the way these people reacted to these sugar alcohols could be because of some people having leaky gut and therefore more of these sugar alcohols making it into their system, and they were "digesting more carbohydrates" than a person with a normal gut would.
Also note that they caution that if you are diabetic, you should not run this test without some supervision because of the effect it might have on your blood sugar.
I wonder now, though, if people that have leaky gut don't have diarreah when they consume sugar alcohols because the sugar alcohols do make it past the digestive barrier into the system before they get to the the intestines?
Barbara.. does this make sense (you have more background than I do in anatomy.. so that's why I'm asking)?
Generally, the test for leaky gut is to take a sugar like lactulose, and it has been the standard test in Germany, and see if it enters the blood stream. If it does then you know that the lining of the gut has been comprimised, with "holes" that are allowing molecules to pass through that should not....hence all the allergy as the immune system reacts to things that should not be there.
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It is interesting that this scorpio's article says: Colon acidification removes ammonia from the bloodstream by trapping it in the stool to be passed from the body.
Many health protocols promote alkalinity to the intestine. They claim that cancers and bad microbes thrive in an acid environment. There obviously needs to be a balance. Acid is required for digestion.
I believe I will add the suggestions of glutamine, glutathione, and a small amount sugar like mannitol. I wonder if xylitol works as well. I do get a lot of uncomfortable gas with sugar alcohols. Many of the nutrition bars have the sugar alcohols.
Regarding the original post of enhancing the MMS protocol, I do believe that people, with a permeable gut, will find the protocol more difficult. It is best to do whatever one can to correct the leaky situation.
It is interesting that this scorpio's article says: Colon acidification removes ammonia from the bloodstream by trapping it in the stool to be passed from the body.
Many health protocols promote alkalinity to the intestine. They claim that cancers and bad microbes thrive in an acid environment. There obviously needs to be a balance. Acid is required for digestion.
I believe I will add the suggestions of glutamine, glutathione, and a small amount sugar like mannitol. I wonder if xylitol works as well. I do get a lot of uncomfortable gas with sugar alcohols. Many of the nutrition bars have the sugar alcohols.
Regarding the original post of enhancing the MMS protocol, I do believe that people, with a permeable gut, will find the protocol more difficult. It is best to do whatever one can to correct the leaky situation.
are you taking the mannitol because of the effect on the ammonia? or to help the constipation?
I really have come to believe that killing pathogens only cures part of the problem for some people. I think for some people (like you), they get relief, but it is temporary.. then the problem just recurs. Which I can understand is very frustrating, especially when you see the same protocol fixing problems permanently for other people.
imo, when something gives relief, even if temporarily, then that tells you something about what the problem is.. but if the relief is only temporary, then I think that indicates that the pathogen - whatever it is - is being reintroduced into the body on a regular basis. Perhaps "leaky gut" might be a cause.
you might look into the hydrogen breath test mentioned in that article as well as the sugar absorption test.. at least they have a way to test to see where you are. gets rid of some of the guessing..
the NZymes Yeast Pgm uses Sodium Chlorite solution
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