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Old 07-07-2011, 05:55 PM
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I've read a few times that green tea effects the absorption of iron and it's recommended just not to drink it while eating. So I eat breakfast every morning and when I get to work I make 2-4 cups of green tea that I drink. I drink green tea, because I enjoy it and the health benefits.

I drink a glass of red wine often and I try to drink one every night for health reasons, but in reality it's probably maybe 3 nights a week and only one glass, maybe two on the weekends. I've read so many times that wine has a lot more benefits if you consume it while eating and not alone.

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Well just recently I read an article that listed the things that contribute to low iron and it was coffee, tea and wine where very high on the list. I drink green tea in between meals, but now I'm wondering what I should do about the wine? Do the benefits of drinking wine with a meal outweigh the negative of depleting iron?

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Old 07-08-2011, 12:33 AM
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I think that preventing iron overload is a good idea as I think iron is able to do more harm than good.
The reason sunburn is so harmful and leads to cancer is because iron is released when skin is inflamed. Reducing your excess iron and keeping iron well bound with melatonin and other chelators seems to me a good idea. As is becoming a blood donor, particularly for women after the menopause.
There are plenty of iron food sources I don't think any MALE should supplement with iron unless they have first had a blood test and a confirmed diagnosis of iron deficiency and the same applies to post menopausal women.
One good thing about blood donation in the UK is that before the blood is collected they check iron levels and you can watch the test and be confident your have sufficient iron if the donation proceeds.
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Men start accumulating excess iron after puberty and
one of the main reasons women outlive men is they get rid of excess iron
through menstruation. Once through the menopause they start accumulating excess iron like men and start catching them up with heart disease and cancer. Drinking tea and wine are good ways to prevent excess iron intake.

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so it sounds like too high of an iron is more likely to be an issue than too low iron?
I do eat a really small portion of red meat probably once a week maybe twice a week. I exercise 5-6 days a week, which made me concern when I read something about women having iron issues for the first time in years, because so many people are saying how bad red meat is and now women aren't getting enough iron and with exercising a lot they are extremely low in iron. Of course I'm a man and maybe that's more of a women issue, but my wife has a similar lifestyle that I have.
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If your worried get your iron levels measured by your doctor.
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If you are a man and not suffering from malnutrition, you should not have iron deficiency. Your diet will take care of that. Iron is one of the top 5 most plentiful element of the Earth's crust.

Dietary iron comes in two forms: heme iron and non-heme iron. Heme iron is found only in animal flesh, as it is derived from the hemoglobin and myoglobin in animal tissues. Non-heme iron is found in plant foods and dairy products.

Poor iron status may be caused by inadequate dietary intake, poor absorption, parasitic infection, and/or medical conditions that cause internal bleeding.

People who donate blood regularly, women with excessive menstrual bleeding, those who use medications (for example, antacids) that interfere with the absorption of iron, and pregnant and lactating women may be at risk for iron deficiency. In addition, the elderly, vegetarians, and children often have inadequate intake of this mineral.

Chronic iron overload, or excessive iron storage, can cause a variety of symptoms including loss of appetite, fatigue, weight loss, headaches, bronze or gray hue to the skin, dizziness, nausea, and shortness of breath. It is generally believed that chronic iron toxicity occurs only in people who require regular blood transfusions, take iron supplements, or in those with a genetic iron storage disorder called hemachromatosis. With hemochromatosis, iron is deposited in tissues throughout the body, most notably the liver, pancreas, and heart, potentially causing cirrhosis, diabetes, or cardiac insufficiency.



Although iron overload is not likely to develop from food sources alone, men, because they do not experience iron losses, may be at greater risk for the problems associated with excessive iron. In recent years, excess iron intake and storage, especially in men, has been implicated as a cause of heart disease and cancer. In addition, iron has been found in increased levels in the joints of people with rheumatoid arthritis.



Vitamin C will help with iron absorption during your meal.
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Vitamin C will help with iron absorption during your meal.
I was taking vitamin C in the morning and at night, but started to read that vitamin C does give some people energy, so I stopped taking it at night and I do feel I sleep better. I'm only taking vitamin C in the morning, because of this and only drink wine at night.
Green tea I drink between meals, because it's convenient for me to drink green tea while at work in the morning. So I don't think green tea would be an issue, since I take vitamin C as well in the morning and I'm drinking it alone and not with a meal.
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