Sorry I have to disagree again. There is no probiotics in raw food and that was not natures way of supplying probiotics. Nature gave us a lifetime supply at birth. You normally have trillions of them weighing about 3 pounds total. However, doctors give out antibiotics like candy and there goes your friendly bacteria. Nature also gave us an appendix to resupply if needed but doctors yank them out by the millions. Now you need probiotics and the only way to get enough is by capsule because each one contains over 10 Billion. You simply can't get that much anywhere else.
If you have been watching Doug Kaufman you know that soil contains fungus and that is why raw food contains antifungal properties. Eat dirt? NO WAY!
Never take an antibiotic unless it is a life and death situation.
We're all sterile until we're born," says Glenn Gibson, a microbiologist at the University of Reading in Britain. "We haven't got anything in us right up until the time we come into this big, bad, dirty world."
But as soon as we pass out of the birth canal, when we are fetched by a doctor's hands, placed in a hospital crib, put on our mother's breast, when we drag a thumb across a blanket and stick that thumb in our mouths, when we swallow our first soft food, we are invaded by all sorts of bacteria. Once inside, they multiply � until the bacteria inside us outnumber our human cells.
"Although we are born without probiotics, when we begin eating and interacting with the world around us, colonies of beneficial microorganisms take up residence. This is one of the benefits of breastfeeding infants; breastfeeding aids in the transfer of organisms like Bifidobacterium from the mother�s skin to the baby�s developing digestive system. "
'Just 1 g of soil - not much more than a small packet of low-calorie sweetener - can contain as many as 10,000 species of microorganisms. Among these microbes are several unique types of probiotics, which have now been refined into so-called �homoeostatic soil organisms� (HSOs). These beneficial �transient� and �resident� bacteria are found naturally in healthy soil, although many of these varieties of soil bacteria are different from those that we ingest (say, in live yoghurt) or which normally reside in our intestinal tract. Ideally, we would take these bacteria in together with unpolluted food grown in rich, non-chemicalised soil.'
This quote is from what Doctor's Don't Tell you.
Yes, I have watched and written Doug Kaufman. I only watch for the fugus that grows on vegetables. When you eat processed food you are eating dirt. Cattle eat dirt when given the wrong diet in feed lots. Farm raised fish are eating things that you wouldn't want to consume.
I really can't argue with you because you know your stuff. You are one of the few people who knows the appendix is needed. I agree that nature didn't make capsules or health food stores, but we need them now. We like clean everything, and that has become a problem. I work with the alternative health community that want to get things back to the way they were.
I don't disagree with you. You understand what is going on and what people need to do to protect their health. My point of view is really how unnatural our ways are.
Last edited by BlancheYHU; 04-20-2010 at 08:09 AM.
Reason: typo
ruckusluvr,
I'm with athletic dept in that you may have a candida overgrowth and are in need of a probriotic BUT, it also sounds to me like you may already be diabetic, or pre-diabetic. I would get tested quickly!
Both of these things are unhealthy but I can tell you from experience that diabetes can make you crave sweets and it will definately make you feel "like crap", especially in the afternoon. Candida can make you crave sweets as well. Therefore, you'll probably need to go on a candida diet. I have heard recently that cellulase will eat up candida like a packman so you may even want to try that. If you have a candida overgrowth it can lead to lots of different problems. If you have developed sinus problems it's a very good sign. Of course, diabetes is dangerous as well.
BlancheYHU I'm glad we are having this discussion but once again I have to disagree with you. This microbiologist may have an agenda we don't know about - for instance he may be in the employ of a pharmaceutical company. What he says doesn't make sense. And Judge Judy says if it doesn't make sense it isn't true. I can't believe nature would produce a child that isn't ready to enter this world in all ways. The gestation period grows everything including an appendix that has already populated the gut with what it needs. A babys heart is beating long before birth so why wouldn't the appendix be working also?
I did a google search on ingredients in breast milk just to be sure and there is no friendly bacteria it it.
I am always very skeptical of writings of so-called experts. I always want to know who is paying them and that's not always easy to find out. Until I do I will always remain a disbeliever.
The bacteria was from touching the mother not the milk. To me the important point is we are on our own, medicine doesn't hold all the answers.
I am happy to have this discussion with such knowledgable people. To be perfectly honest, I am not worried who is right, but how do we make a difference. It seems that this is a great forum with people who get it. The reason I joined is I liked what I read.
I am glad to debate such smart posts.
Last edited by BlancheYHU; 04-20-2010 at 10:25 AM.
Reason: medicine
"The gastrointestinal tract of a normal fetus is sterile. During birth and rapidly thereafter, bacteria from the mother and the surrounding environment colonize the infant's gut. Immediately after vaginal delivery, babies may have in the upper gastrointestinal tract bacterial strains derived from the mothers’ feces. Infants born by caesarean section may also be exposed to their mothers’ microflora, but the initial exposure is most likely to be from the surrounding environment such as the air, other infants, and the nursing staff which serve as vectors for transfer. The primary gut flora in infants born by caesarean delivery may be disturbed for up to 6 months after birth whereas vaginally born infants take up to 1 month for their intestinal micro flora to be well established. After birth, environmental, oral and cutaneous bacteria are readily transferred from the mother to the infant through suckling, kissing, and caressing. All infants are initially colonized by large numbers of E. coli and streptococci. Within a few days, bacterial numbers reach 108 to 1010 per gram of feces. During the first week of life, these bacteria create a reducing environment favorable for the subsequent bacterial succession of strict anaerobic species mainly belonging to the genera Bifidobacterium, Bacteroides,, Clostridium, and Ruminococcus. Breast-fed babies become dominated by bifidobacteria, possibly due to the contents of bifidobacterial growth factors in breast milk. In contrast, the microbiota of formula-fed infants is more diverse with high numbers of Enterobacteriaceae, enterococci, bifidobacteria, Bacteroides, and clostridia. After the introduction of solid food and weaning, the microflora of breast-fed infants becomes similar to that of formula-fed infants. By the second year of life the fecal microflora resembles that of adults."
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