I suffer from chronic fatigue and I’ve been going to a medical doctor for treatments over the past 15 years. I was thinking about trying a naturopathic doctor but I haven’t got the courage to actually make a visit. Does anyone have any advice or suggestions on using and finding naturopaths? Are there any useful online resources that I can use?
many NDs today have graduated from a 4 year post grad school, much like medical school. In fact, they come out wielding a drug prescription pad. If you come across one that uses it a lot just walk out the door.
Hard to say how to find a good one. Like any doctor, some are good and some aren't so hot. Much of success with natural medicine is determined on the patients ability and willingness to make some pretty deep rooted changes.
My opinion is that chronic fatigue is caused by viral microbes. So you want an ND that really is aggressive towards microbes but is not willing to use antibiotics. Most antibiotics will not get to the microbes that cause chronic fatigue anyway and treatment options should include building and supporting the immune system as well as anti viral treatments.
Personally, if I had chronic fatigue I would do MMS. You can learn about it on this forum. My friend goes to an ND in Idaho Falls and he has him use it for his condition and it has been very helpful to him. Some chronic fatigue is caused by epstien barr syndrom which is a virus. I have seen chronic fatigue cured by mms when that was the cause.
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I have had chronic fatigue for 15 years now and it did come on after a bad bout of epstein barr. I am new to this site and would appreciate an explanation of MMS as I don't know what it means. If it could possibly help me I should very much like to investigate its possibilities.
I had chronic tiredness for many, many years. I could sleep anywhere and anytime. Just absolutely tired and short of energy. Even breathing was quite a burden. Drs couldn't help me. They told me it was psychological! For my case, it was later discovered through natural healing Dr that I had heavy toxic buildup, even from metal. I went through 12 days of detoxification. Felt alive after that but my life was really like a roller coaster cos my body system was stiill not strong. I built up my body through a lot of freshly made juices. Chronic tiredness can be due to bacteria or virus as mentioned here, maybe other parasites. So it's good to check it out. There's hope. It's curable.
I myself would try cutting out sugar and white flour, eating more fruits and veggies, and increase your exercise. Also, you may want to get some blood work done to rule out other things like Anemia.
Liverock is right, chronic fatigue can be caused by many things and thats why docs don't want to deal with it. It is too confrontational to their limited belief system.
A healthy diet will always help your system to function better, but sometimes it just isn't enough when the body is invaded by parasites, virus and chemicals that have become deeply imbedded.
I do think that the majority of it is caused by epstein barr...the most common cause. But all the rest that liverock says is possible. MMS can deal with the virus, it can also help clear chemicals but it may not be the total solution for that. If it were me it would be the first thing I would try. You can learn about MMS in the sub-forum in the Alternative Therapies forum. Look for it there. Be sure to read the stickies.
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For chronic fatigue, first try probiotics gor 4-6weeks (try ohiras if you can find it). If you have no success, then you might have to try an elimination fast.
One of the main problems IMO causing Chronic Fatigue Syndrome symptoms is mercury.
Any CFS sufferer should read this and then check how many of the symptoms mentioned they are suffering from. Nobody will have all the symptoms but anybody recognising a good percentage should get their mercury levels checked.
Mercury tends to be stored in the bones early in life, but when osteoporosis starts in later life and calcium is broken down in the bone, mercury is released and symptoms of mercury being distributed to organs throughout the body can occur.
In an overall lifestyle sense, the fact that symptoms come and go leads to the victim having periods of weeks to years of being highly functional and productive, interspersed with periods of being nonproductive and having a hard time getting anything done. Life seems to progress in fits and starts. Great progress is made on projects which later get shelved for long periods. As the disease continues, the productive periods become shorter, fewer, and farther between.
There are emotional changes in mercury poisoning. Depression slowly sets in. Victims feel fatigued and listless. They lack motivation - even for crucial tasks. They lose interest in their surroundings and in their own life. They do not enjoy life, or experience happiness or joy. They experience constant fear e. g. of losing their job. They may be very tense. They feel hopeless. They have a sense of impending doom. Every small problem is discouraging. Minor difficulties seem overwhelming and insurmountable.
The altered emotional state of a mercury intoxicated person leads to impaired interpersonal relationships. They become increasingly irritable and sensitive, reacting strongly to relatively innocent remarks. They may not be able to take orders, instructions, or suggestions without losing their temper. They resent criticism and may interpret innocent remarks critically. They may have an exaggerated response to stimulation and become fearful or anxious and nervous. They may project their fears and anxieties onto others, making inappropriate criticisms or attacks. They become shy and avoid dealing with strangers. While timid, they may unexpectedly lose self control with strangers. They may wish to visit with friends and family extensively, often wishing to engage in long, repetitive conversations, then withdraw for prolonged periods of time. They withdraw more and more from social contacts.
Intelligence gradually deteriorates. Previously bright persons become dull and slow in thinking. They suffer from a progressive decline specifically affecting short term memory as well as the faculties for logical reasoning. Thus their ability to do things like balance the checkbook, do math, or play chess suffers. They lose the ability to concentrate. Memory problems may be more from distractability and inability to concentrate and pay enough attention to get things INTO their memory than an actual failure to remember things (thus they may complain of memory problems but do well on memory tests). They cease being motivated towards their work or other tasks.
Thoughts become heavy, repetitive and pedantic. Creative thinking becomes progressively more difficult, eventually becoming impossible. They become unable to select the right words to convey their meaning, and make stylistic and grammatical errors. Their ability to express themselves declines progressively.
There is a distinctive cognitive symptom of being unable to think clearly without great effort. The best description for people who have not experienced it is of a hangover without pain. People who have experienced it will recognize the term "brain fog" as entirely descriptive.
As the victim's level of intoxication waxes and wanes they go through periods of life when they do or do not dream. Dreaming may be in black and white.
Early physical symptoms include dizziness, tinnitus (ringing in the ears), insomnia, daytime drowsiness, loss of appetite, a tendency towards diarrhea - often alternating with constipation, cold hands and feet, a tendency towards sweating (some people have the opposite symptom and do not sweat at all), flushing or reddening of the skin - particularly on the face and neck. Some people blush frequently, but others do not blush at all. Asthma is a symptom of chronic mercury poisoning. Digestive disturbances are also common.
The skin becomes dry, athlete's foot and toenail fungus progress, and the insides of the ankles, particularly behind the ankle bone and a bit above it become dry, itchy, flaky and peel. This often becomes painful and annoying enough to keep the victim up at night. Even after fungus and yeast infection has been eliminated hyperkeratosis, often with papular erythema and itching are common.
The hair becomes thinner, dryer, duller, less strongly colored, slower growing, and more brittle.
The biological clock is disturbed. Waking up late and staying up late is more common than being an "early bird." Try as they might, the mercury poisoned person simply cannot control their circadian rhythm.
Victims may become photophobic and find bright light uncomfortable and unpleasant. There may be visual disturbances, including alterations in color perception leading to reduced sensitivity to the color red, or color blindness. The ability to focus on distant objects may be sporadically impaired. Peripheral vision may be reduced in the most severe cases.
The hands and feet often become distinctly cold. This can occur suddenly and is most distinctive when combined with sweating. Later in more severe poisoning they may also tingle or lose feeling.
The effects of mercury on the mouth are receding, sometimes spongy gums that bleed easily and teeth that are 'loose' in their sockets and can be wiggled very slightly. It also causes excessive salivation and unusually bad breath.
Mercury interferes with the sense of smell which becomes less acute, and later with hearing, in which perception of sounds does not diminish as notably as the patient's ability to understand and interpret them - e. g. to understand speech directed at them even though they hear it clearly.
Victims often experience discomfort that feels like a "tight band around their head." They may also experience sharp points of discomfort in their ear canals at bedtime.
Mercury also interferes with the body's ability to regulate temperature. Victims may alternate between being hot and cold when the temperature isn't changing, or have to wear more clothes than other people, or have more difficulty than other people in staying comfortable while the temperature changes. Temperature disregulation also leads to 'night sweats.'
many NDs today have graduated from a 4 year post grad school, much like medical school. In fact, they come out wielding a drug prescription pad. If you come across one that uses it a lot just walk out the door.
Hard to say how to find a good one. Like any doctor, some are good and some aren't so hot. Much of success with natural medicine is determined on the patients ability and willingness to make some pretty deep rooted changes.
My opinion is that chronic fatigue is caused by viral microbes. So you want an ND that really is aggressive towards microbes but is not willing to use antibiotics. Most antibiotics will not get to the microbes that cause chronic fatigue anyway and treatment options should include building and supporting the immune system as well as anti viral treatments.
Personally, if I had chronic fatigue I would do MMS. You can learn about it on this forum. My friend goes to an ND in Idaho Falls and he has him use it for his condition and it has been very helpful to him. Some chronic fatigue is caused by epstien barr syndrom which is a virus. I have seen chronic fatigue cured by mms when that was the cause.
I read that somewhere, that a couple of the ND schools have caved into demands by the pharmaceutical companies
liverock, that's such an informative piece of information. I had all my amalgam fillings changed last year. Any information on nickel crowns? I have a few. I often have swelling at my jaws. I wonder whether it is due to the nickel crowns.
liverock, that's such an informative piece of information. I had all my amalgam fillings changed last year. Any information on nickel crowns? I have a few. I often have swelling at my jaws. I wonder whether it is due to the nickel crowns.
Crowns - Nickel (Non-Precious)
Non-precious metal used in dentistry is a term that generally refers to crowns made of nickel, chrome, cobalt and molybdenum. It further means that there is no gold or platinum in them. They cost much less than gold crowns, for you can easily see that a melted down nickel coin could easily cover one tooth.
Nickel is the number one cancer stimulating metal, even worse than mercury - because mercury usually kills cells, whereas nickel just turns the cell malignant. Although cobalt and chromium individually do not cause cancer, if they are combined into one mixture, they will cause cancer.
Nickel causes DNA damage in preventing cells from repairing and from duplicating. It has pronounced adverse effects on the immune system, destroying T-cells and especially the NK cells that are our major defense against cancer. Alteration of chromosomes is another pastime of nickel.
Sounds pretty unsafe doesn't it? But it�€™s cheap. That's why we find it in removable partial dentures, orthodontic braces, adult crowns and bridges (especially as the base under porcelain crowns) and children's "chrome crowns", a cutesy name for nickel.
My personal advice is totally against the use of nickel in dentistry, but, I will allow you to choose whatever you want - as long as you are informed.
Thanks for info. Is there anything to remove or detoxify nickel in the body even after removing the crowns? I know chlorella is used in removing mercury.
Liverock you have hit the nail squarely on the head with this link. I've read several books on this subject due to my wife and son having CF and Dr Myhill is right on. There is a doctor in New York, Dr Majid Ali, who also has done a lot of work in this area and treats CF. He has a book The Canary and CF, and several others on this subject but they are very wordy. Dr Myhill spells it out very clearly with no fluff, and her fees are low for the blood test evaluations I think. Everyone has some degree of fatigue and her mitochondria explanation applies to that too.
Thanks very much for this link which we will pursue further.
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