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The number of people exposed is in the millions. The reason you can't get treated is they have decided that only early disease merits diagnosis and treatment. The bacterium itself is the most bizarre human bacterial pathogen known, and is poorly understood.

They don't know how many people are carrying a permanent relapsing brain infection. you can't get diagnosis or treatment because they have to pretend it doesn't exist and use labels like 'post lyme' and 'CFS' etc. for those who manifest illness.

Look at what Steere did in his 1992 study which is the foundation for the CDC serodiagnostic standard. He and others often look back on this and refer to a 'normal' control, but in fact the control was taken from sick people...MS sufferers, CFS sufferers, in sum, conditions which could have been caused or complicated by late Bb infection. Moreover, he threw in 25 syphilitic patients which constituted 20% of the control. Hoever, syphilis itself has an annual US incidence of 3 per 100,000.

This statistical chicanery, which fudged the result at 41 kDa on Bb blot by many multiples, is significant, because syph serum will cross react at 41 kDa to Bb western blots. It allowed them to 'swift boat' the importance of the reaction to 41 kDa, which is the earliest and most consistent human ab response to Bb infection, being present in all stages as opposed to the rest of the proteins which are variably expressed according to stage, tissue type, even temperature.

Flagellin {41kDa} is necessary for Bb to survive under all conditions, and is constantly expressed, including in late CNS infection. Yet they chose to swift-boat this response.

Why? It's for political and economic reasons. telling the truth about diagnosis and treatment results in mass panic and probable economic collapse/political revolution. it's likely a bioweapon. North American disease is different from European disease...lack of CSF antibodies, for instance.

A much larger range of serum resistance to host species in wild{allows Bb to infect a much wider range of species, important in disease spread and maintenance in wild}. The CDC has found that Bb 31 goes intracellular in CNS cells.

Telling the truth threatens the careers and livelihoods of the very individuals who control this issue and who have actively lied and deceived and otherwise operated a scientific propaganda campaign for the past 15+ years, profitting from the campaign as they went.

Lyme disease, which in the US also perhaps includes other pathogens notably a bioweaponized bartonella, threatens the entire establishment. If late disease was rare, we'd be able to get treatment. Unfortunately, the EIS/CDC,DOD totally screwed this up and tried to make money off of the disease, making profitability their first priority as opposed to protecting the health of americans.

Think about this...Allen Steere wouldn't listen to Polly Murray in early 90's when she reported a big incidence of neuropsychiatric disease in lyme. She had to call Fallon. Now, Fallon has overwhelming evidence of a serious disabling relapsing brain condition which is not easily treated.

Global hypoperfusion on spect/pet ain't normal folks. Don't you think the CDC etc. should be breaking their balls trying to figure it out? Instead, we see nothing at all, only continued attempts to deny illness and obstruct treatment.

Obviously, they know what is going on, and have determined that the best course is to do nothing, to cover up, knowing that in doing so, they are condemning large numbers of people to perpetual diagnostic and treatment hell.

Think about it. It's a horrific scandal and I'm not sure how much longer these *******s can keep control of it.
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Now, let me tell you about the real DARK SIDE of the steere/dressler criteria.

These criteria were designed to enable one thing: a vaccine trial for the OspA vaccine. That's why the band to OspA at 31 KdA was left out of the criteria for positivity, even though it is very specific to Bb.

Why then was it necessary to distort the importance of the flagellin response? I'll tell you why. It's because they had to test the vaccine in an endemic area. And a significant percentage of vaccinees were ALREADY SHOWING seropositivity to Bb exposure and possible latent/asymptomatic infection as manifested by the 41 band and maybe a few others, but not enough to be 'positive' by CDC standards. {remember, in europe 3 bands = I have lyme disease, in the US, 3 bands = normal}.

In other words, they had to run a vaccine trial on a group of people who had already been exposed or infected by Bb. If you utilize scientifically honest criteria, then YOU CAN'T DO THE TRIAL, BECAUSE A LARGE NUMBER OF YOUR VACCINEES ARE ALREADY INFECTED OR EXPOSED BEFORE THEY EVER GET THE VACCINE.

So by using less restrictive criteria, you create a situation in which there is no way to distinguish whether or not the vaccine is effective. Basically, a lot of people got a worthless vaccine.

this paradigm...which plunged thousands of vaccinees from infected areas into an unknown realm {what happens when you vaccinate someone who has already been exposed, or is manifesting late stage latency} and MAY have been the reason we saw so many reports of adverse reactions.

Individuals who were carrying latent infection, as manifested serologically by a limited ab response, these people were CUT OUT of the medical community, and they had to pretend nothing was wrong with them. And wrt lyme encephalopathy, Bb protein expression primarily in brain years after initial exposure, that has never been studied adequately to know what is signficant and what is not. All we really know is that flagellin is constitutively expressed even in brain infection.
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steere, in his dressler study, failed to temperature shift his borrelia cultures. That's forgivable, I suppose, but since then we have learned that Bb differentially regulates certain immunogenic proteins according to temperature. at human body temperature, a number of important proteins are known to induce ab response in baboons. none of these proteins are tested for on his blots; no one has done a damn thing to study these proteins.

It's very likely that a number of proteins which we produce antibodies for and which are important to human infection dynamics are NOT currently being tested for on blot or otherwise.

Basically, I'm under the impression that all this crap has turned into a public health disaster and they are doing their best not to make amends, but to duck and cover and screw everyone over. There's no accountability among these stooges.
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