07-13-2010, 10:05 AM
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I agree it's out of control with the monitoring of the average person. I don't want a car with the 'On-Star' system, where they know exactly where I am, and some stranger somewhere can control any of my vehicle features like locking of the doors, etc.
Whenever I delete my cookies on my computer, I go to NAI and 'opt-out' of internet advertising beacons, it's a cookie itself, but that's how it works For anyone who wants to do a search that won't take your IP address, there's places like Ixquick, not as good as Google, but more private.
I have a simple pre-pay Tracfone that doesn't have any fancy features, but a couple of friends of ours have cell phones that tell the exact location of where they are (GPS). When they're at our house, the exact address shows up along with a photo of the building/land, I think it's creepy.
There are cases where people want fingerprints for simple things like bank accounts, or cashing a check, I avoid all that nonsense. I don't even microchip my dogs, bad enough they want you to 'register' them, which to me is out of line. I've heard about the government wanting to monitor and control everyone's crops and farm animals too, even if it's someone in the suburbs growing a few tomato plants, they want to put a UPC/code number on it.
I'm sure that site linked to is being watched too. It seems like they wasting WAY too much time, energy and money spying of the average "Joe", instead of directing their efforts towards the real problems like securing the border, defending the nation, and stopping garbage like GMO crops/seeds, and poisons like Melamine getting into our dog foods and baby formulas.
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07-13-2010, 11:19 AM
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Well actually K2C, did you not read the article about the FDA trying to figure out what the acceptable amount of melamine will be allowed in our formula now... I will have to see if i can find it...
i havent read your article yet liverock, but i was wondering if maybe these new tvs systems that we have to have a box for, gives them more ability to come into our homes... how do we know if there isnt a listening device or a webcam type device built into the box...I had a strange thought a few months ago... I wonder if the program to get rid of lead based paint was more so they could use the heat seeking equipment and the gps units on regular people instead of because it was dangerous to kids...
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07-14-2010, 10:17 AM
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Sometime back a TV news reporter did a story on cell phones and demonstrated that someone could remotely turn on your phone, without your knowledge, thus allowing them to eavesdrop on whatever is said around it. I find it hard to believe that this feature was just inadvertently added along with all the other cell phone features.
Similarly I do not think that all this tracking and surveillance is just a coincidental outgrowth of technology. Some of it may have started as a benign solution to a preserved problem, but then it was evolved into much more.
The RFID chips were to help in find Fido if he ran off and got lost, then maybe anyone in prison should have one so we can keep track of them, and what about those in mental hospitals, or grandpa when he wanders off because of his Alzheimer,s and of course we need to chip little kids cause they are always getting lost.
Now with the proposed cashless society everyone would be required to have a chip just to survive. As nice as that may sound to some it would allow government to watch over everything you do and if some bureaucrat decided that you were not being a good little citizen he could turn of your chip thus starving you into submission.
I believe that all of this surveillance from stop light cameras to the military being use catch drunk drivers (which is totally unconstitutional), etc. is being used to slowly condition the sheeple that having government in total control of their life is perfectly normal.
Which it is if you are a slave!
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07-15-2010, 04:41 AM
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I have issues with anyone knowing where I am 24/7
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07-15-2010, 07:06 AM
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Just using the grocery cards required to get the lower prices are tracked too.
Ticks me off!
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07-15-2010, 09:40 AM
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Just using the grocery cards required to get the lower prices are tracked too.
Ticks me off!
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I have a Petsmart card. They mailed me a coupon to my home for $10 off a $50 purchase. They said that they 'missed' me, because I haven't been there for awhile.
Yeah, I haven't been there for awhile because the over-priced natural dog food I was buying in 20 lb. bags, changed to 15 lb. bags, but kept the same price! Also, when I did go there, it was VERY rare that anything I bought had a sale price.
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07-16-2010, 05:28 AM
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I hope you have told them the reasons you haven't been there, Kind 2C.
That's the only way a store or company knows when a customer is dis-
satisfied. Unfortunately, volume in all kinds of products is falling again.
Canned goods, ice cream, cereals probably too. The consumer gets jerked
around as usual!
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07-16-2010, 08:25 PM
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Unfortunately, volume in all kinds of products is falling again.
Canned goods, ice cream, cereals probably too. The consumer gets jerked
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No EarlyBird, I haven't talked to anyone at the store. My attitude is that they either wouldn't care, or wouldn't be able to do anything about the prices anyway.
I've noticed lately that the orange juice we buy (not from concentrate) always came in 64 oz wax-type cartons. Now, they're phasing them out, and although the juice looks like it comes in the normal size container, it actually reads 59 oz. on the carton. So it looks the same and costs the same, but there's less juice in there.
And I agree, I've seen it in ice-cream and yogurt, etc.
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07-17-2010, 05:55 AM
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Yeah, major RIPOFFS for the consumer!
Big Bummer!
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07-18-2010, 07:30 AM
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Form of Inflation!
Actually, this situation of smaller amounts in containers, regardless of what
product it is, is just another form of Inflation. Either the price goes up or we
pay the same amount for less product - the effect is the same - INFLATION!
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07-18-2010, 12:31 PM
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Ah but you are not suppose to be smart enough to realize what is going on. You need to attend your government sponsored class that will dumb you down to thinking that this is normal.
As a kid I remember reading the label on Log Cabins pancake syrup. (isn't it a know fact that you cannot eat without having something to read? ) so when nothing else was available I would read labels.
Anyway back then it contained 15% maple syrup. After awhile that was dropped to 10%, then to 7.5% and to 5%, at around 2% they stopped saying what the percentage was. That way they could still claim that contains maple syrup even if it is only a trace amount.
Of course the current label would lead you believe that this is still their "original" formula.
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07-19-2010, 07:44 AM
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Ah but you are not suppose to be smart enough to realize what is going on. You need to attend your government sponsored class that will dumb you down to thinking that this is normal.
As a kid I remember reading the label on Log Cabins pancake syrup. (isn't it a know fact that you cannot eat without having something to read? ) so when nothing else was available I would read labels.
Anyway back then it contained 15% maple syrup. After awhile that was dropped to 10%, then to 7.5% and to 5%, at around 2% they stopped saying what the percentage was. That way they could still claim that contains maple syrup even if it is only a trace amount.
Of course the current label would lead you believe that this is still their "original" formula.
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Log cabin syrup and mrs butterworths have ZERO maple syrup anymore. But they do have a ton of high fructose corn syrup. Also, aunt jemimas pancake mix use to be made with unbleached flour and non aluminum raising agents, now it has both. I make pancakes and waffles out of scratch, that way I know what I am getting.
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07-27-2010, 08:51 AM
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The RFID chips were to help in find Fido if he ran off and got lost, then maybe anyone in prison should have one so we can keep track of them, and what about those in mental hospitals, or grandpa when he wanders off because of his Alzheimer,s and of course we need to chip little kids cause they are always getting lost.
Now with the proposed cashless society everyone would be required to have a chip just to survive. As nice as that may sound to some it would allow government to watch over everything you do and if some bureaucrat decided that you were not being a good little citizen he could turn of your chip thus starving you into submission.
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And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads. And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Revelation 13:16-17
Muahaha (evil laughing)
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07-27-2010, 06:46 PM
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And today WalMart announced that they will begin chipping their clothing, but the chip will be in a detachable tag so there is nothing to worry about.
So you come home rip the tag off and throw it away. Of course on garbage collect day it would not be unthinkable for a truck to roll through the neighborhood and read all the discarded tags thus providing a map for future add campaigns.
Once that is accepted as normal then we can move on to other areas.
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