Know the Importance of Taking Enough Magnesium With Your Vitamin D

[D Bergy]

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\nI am going to try raise it by taking it with Coconut Oil first, since I am fairly sure I do not absorb fats very well. Trial and error should give me the answer.
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\nDan\r\n

[liverock]

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Thanks for the information. I cannot budge my Vitamin D blood level taking 10,000 iu per day. Since I am taking 500 mg of Mg in a whole food multivitamin, I do not think it is from a Mg deficiency, but I will keep that in mind.
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\nI am going to try raise it by taking it with Coconut Oil first, since I am fairly sure I do not absorb fats very well. Trial and error should give me the answer.
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\nDan

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If the Mg in your multi is Mg oxide then you will only be absorbing 4% of the elemental Mg.
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\nhttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11794633
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\nIncreasing Vitamin B6 can also increase Mg absorption level.
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\nhttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2599796
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\nhttps://www.wassen.com/professionals/...gnesium-b.html
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[HeavyTZM]

\r\n \r\n How would you check your magnesium levels? Blood test?
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[liverock]

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How would you check your magnesium levels? Blood test?
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Not the normal serum Mg test but the Red Blood Cell Mg test which is more accurate for measuring the intracellular levels. I would only have a test if exhibiting other symptoms of low magnesium, such as excessive fatigue.
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\nMg levels will go up and down all the time especially with premenopausal women, diabetics,those on high refined carbs, people with high stress levels and those with high calcium intakes.
\nThose with kidney problems should check with their doctor before supplementing with Mg.
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\nI take Dr Best Chelated Mg which is a mixture of Mg glycinate/citrate.\r\n

[Arrowwind09]

\r\n \r\n If you cant get your blood levels of D3 to budge on the supplement you are taking try a different brand. Biotec brand did it for me when the other failed. It had nothing to do with magnesium. Just selection of a poor product.\r\n

[pinballdoctor]

\r\n \r\n Vitamin D + magnesium = 2 nutrients. That still leaves you 89 nutrients short.
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\nNotice how one nutrient helps another to be absorbed, or that one nutrient won\'t work without another... that is because you need them all. And also note that taking more calcium than magnesium (like most people do) will cause magnesium deficiency.
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\n98% of magnesium is in the organs and tissue, leaving about 2% in the blood, therefore, using a blood test to determine magnesium deficiency is not a good idea.
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\nBetter to take 1:1 magnesium/calcium from citrate (at least 1gram each per day) together with 2000-5000iu of D3.
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\n...And what about B vitamins, mixed vitamin E, extra C, beta carotene, K, and all 60 minerals, especially iodine, zinc, copper, and selenium?
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\nHealth is a jigsaw puzzle, and these are the pieces..\r\n

[D Bergy]

\r\n \r\n I have used two different brands of D-3 with no change in results. I have not tried the Biotec brand. I am currently using Swanson\'s brand, although my multivitamin also has 5,000 iu so my total intake is more like 15,000 iu. I forgot about the D in the multivitamin.
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\nI use Dr. Mercola\' whole food multivitamin which is probably one of the better ones. It contains just about everything you need with the exception of vitamin K, which I take as a separate supplement. I have a pdf of the ingredients and the form of the ingredients below.
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\nhttps://media.mercola.com/Assets/PDF/...l-v704-WEB.pdf
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\nIt is possible that another brand may help, but I can only try one thing at a time or I will not know what actually worked, if any of them do. It will take some time, but in the end I should have my answer.
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\nI should mention I also take Ginger, Curcumin, Krill Oil and Astaxanthin.
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\nDan\r\n

[liverock]

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\n I use Dr. Mercola\' whole food multivitamin which is probably one of the better ones. It contains just about everything you need with the exception of vitamin K, which I take as a separate supplement. I have a pdf of the ingredients and the form of the ingredients below.
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\nhttps://media.mercola.com/Assets/PDF/...l-v704-WEB.pdf
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\nDan

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The amount of B6 in the Mercola multi is merely 4mg which is too low to have any effect on increasing Mg and Vitamin D levels. In fact all the B vitamins in this multi are low only slightly above RDA levels. I would try taking a 50mg B Complex and see if this increases Vitamin D absorption.
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\nLow B6 has been found to be associated with increasing inflammation in a lot of diseases.
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\nhttps://www.lef.org/whatshot/2012_05....l=0#vitamin-b6
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\r\n \r\n Vitamin B6 deficiency associated with inflammation
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\nMay 25, 2012. In a study described online on May 23, 2012 in the Journal of Nutrition, researchers at Tufts University in Boston report a relationship between low levels of plasma pyridoxal-5\'-phosphate (PLP), which indicate reduced levels of vitamin B6, with an increase in markers of inflammation.
\n"Low vitamin B6 status, based on plasma concentrations of pyridoxal-5-phosphate, has been identified in inflammatory diseases, including cardiovascular disease, rheumatoid arthritis, inflammatory bowel disease, and diabetes," write Lydia Sakakeeny of Tufts Jean Mayer USDA Human Nutrition Research Center and her colleagues. "Our objective was to examine the association between plasma PLP and multiple markers of inflammation in a community based cohort."
\nThe current study included 2229 men and women enrolled in the Framingham Offspring study, who were recruited in 1971 and have undergone periodic examinations thereafter. Blood drawn between 1998 and 2001 was analyzed for plasma PLP and 13 markers of inflammation, including C-reactive protein, fibrinogen, interluekin-6, tumor necrosis factor-alpha and other factors.
\nThe researchers created inflammation scores based on the values of each inflammatory marker. An inverse relationship was observed between high inflammation scores and low levels of PLP. The authors note that decreased plasma PLP levels may reflect mobilization of PLP into inflammatory sites and that a causative relationship between reduced vitamin B6 levels and inflammation cannot be determined. However, they conclude that "This study in combination with past findings further supports our hypothesis that inflammation is associated with a functional deficiency of vitamin B6."\r\n \r\n

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[pinballdoctor]

\r\n \r\n I agree with liverock about the B complex, as the multi comes up short.
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\nI would also like to know if you take a good quality probiotic, and if not, why not, since good health begins in the gut. And good gut health enables nutrients to be absorbed rather than passed through..
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\nI am also curious if you use a regular table salt or if you use a good quality "multi-mineral" brand, such as Redmond natural sea salt from Utah.
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\nThis salt contains all 60 minerals that the body needs, including the trace minerals such as gallium, which prevents brain tumor. (most people don\'t know that)
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\nMost people also think any salt is salt, but that is far from the truth. Your body needs minerals to make the vitamins work properly, and a good quality salt like Redmonds is a perfect choice since it comes from an ancient seabed that dried up perhaps thousands of years before pollution came along. Iodized table salt is stripped of minerals, bleached, and heated to a high temperature, making it almost useless..
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\nYou can\'t make stomach acid without sodium and chloride, and without stomach acid, you can\'t digest or absorb food properly\r\n

[D Bergy]

\r\n \r\n I do currently have an absorption problem due to Crohn\'s Disease and a temporary Iliostomy. I am only working with a limited section of my guts. But even before all of that, the D has not had any effect on blood levels in the Winter.
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\nI have used probiotics before when on massive doses of IV antibiotics, and oral ones. I had used them occasionally before also, but not regularly.
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\nI do make my own saur kraut as there is a lot more bacteria in that than any probiotic.
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\nI use regular salt and sea salt. I use sea salt to make the saur kraut. I am sure I am currently lacking many things due to the Iliostomy, but that will be reversed in a month.
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\nThanks for the information.
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\nDan\r\n

[liverock]

\r\n \r\n Try a sublingual Vitamin D3 tablet that dissolves and is absorbed under the tongue.
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\nhttps://www.iherb.com/Michael-s-Natur...-Tablets/23733\r\n

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If your having problems raising Vitamin D levels it could be you are short on magnesium.
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\nLearn more: https://www.naturalnews.com/029195_ma...#ixzz20p8eG7Q3

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An excellent post, Liverock. I\'m glad that some sanity and wisdom is finally coming to this issue.
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[liverock]

If your having problems raising Vitamin D levels it could be you are short on magnesium.

(NaturalNews) As more people begin to realize the amazing health benefits that Vitamin D has to offer, more people are naturally beginning to get more vitamin D, either through supplements or sunshine. The downside of this increased intake, however, is that more people are having adverse reactions from Vitamin D. What most people are not aware of, though, is that most of these so-called 'Vitamin D Side Effects' are not problems with taking the vitamin itself, but are actually problems with not getting enough magnesium.

Vitamin D, just like all other nutrients, works in harmony with several other nutrients to perform its many functions. Most importantly, vitamin D requires and 'uses up' magnesium to convert from supplements or sun into its active form in the blood.

As such, it is a big mistake to simply take large doses of Vitamin D without taking the need for magnesium into consideration. Yet this is exactly what is happening in most cases and it is causing a lot of people to have problems that they believe are due to side effects of Vitamin D- or even worse they believe they are experiencing an overdose. Such a huge number of people have subtle magnesium deficiency that some researchers and doctors are calling magnesium deficiency an epidemic, and anyone with even a mild or 'subclinical' magnesium deficiency will have this deficiency amplified when Vitamin D is taken. This is creating some uncomfortable 'Side Effects of Vitamin D' that are actually symptoms of an induced magnesium deficiency! Some of the magnesium deficiency symptoms being attributed to Vitamin D are:

Headaches
Insomnia
Jitteriness
Muscle Cramps
Anxiety
Heart Palpitations
Constipation

While there are always going to be those who simply can't tolerate taking Vitamin D supplements for one reason or another, the good news is that the vast majority of these problems can be prevented and even reversed by getting clinically significant amounts of magnesium - while you are getting your Vitamin D from pills or from the sun.

Vitamin D Absorption Problems

Conversely, it's also true that taking Vitamin D may not raise blood levels in those who are magnesium deficient. In many cases, both the Vitamin D deficient person and their doctor believe that they are having 'absorption' problems. This lack of knowledge about the need for magnesium ends up causing serious issues such as:

1) A lot of fear being generated that an underlying serious medical problem exists
2)Unnecessarily high dosages of Vitamin D that further worsen the magnesium deficiency
3)Thousands, and sometimes tens of thousands of dollars, being spent on unnecessary medical testing to find the 'absorption' problem
4)The underlying magnesium deficiency not being found because testing for magnesium levels is not useful in determining need for the nutrient

This leaves many people still low in Vitamin D and believing that they are toxic or allergic to Vitamin D. This belief is being encouraged by practitioners and websites that are unaware of this intimate connection between these two nutrients and who don't have a solution for those who are suffering. Unlike drugs, nutrients are interconnected with one another and rarely does someone have only One nutrient deficiency completely in isolation. But as Vitamin D testing is becoming more common, people are being treated with large and sometimes massive doses of Vitamin D without taking into consideration their need for other nutrients. In particular, the need for sufficient magnesium is critical to avoid some of the uncomfortable problems that are often falsely attributed to being Vitamin D side effects or overdoses.

Resources

https://www.springerlink.com/content/n92g57j9k00ul822/
https://www.easy-immune-health.com/vitamin-d-absorption.html
https://www.ajcn.org/cgi/reprint/29/8/854.pdf

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