Bitter Pill: Why Medical Bills Are Killing Us

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[saved1986]

\r\n \r\n My mom had to go to the ER yesterday. She stopped taking blood pressure med and it went up and she was dizzy. Of course they had to do a chest x-ray and cat scan. What bullshit\r\n

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\r\n Originally Posted by saved1986\r\n \r\n

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My mom had to go to the ER yesterday. She stopped taking blood pressure med and it went up and she was dizzy. Of course they had to do a chest x-ray and cat scan. What bullshit

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There are all kinds of warnings to NOT stop BP meds abruptly. Not even statins. But certainly not beta blocker, ACE inhibitor, or calcium channel blocker.
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\r\n Originally Posted by saved1986\r\n \r\n

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My mom had to go to the ER yesterday. She stopped taking blood pressure med and it went up and she was dizzy. Of course they had to do a chest x-ray and cat scan. What bullshit

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Sorry to hear about your mother, dear Saved. Hope she\'s okay.\r\n

[newlife]

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[saved1986]

\r\n \r\n She is fine and if was a calcium channel blocker. She now knows not to play games\r\n

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\r\n \r\n Calcium channel blocker. Ah yes. As I said.
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\nAnyway, if she really wanted to quit the blocker, she would have to make it a point to take more magnesium regularly while she weaned herself off. But if there really is a problem with the calcium constricting the arteries, she may not be able to take enough magnesium and it would only give her a magnesium induced diarrhea. Another problem is that we are taking more vitamin D3 due to all the studies and advertisements out there. This is already a warning with calcium channel blockers. "No high dose of D". It only defeats the blocker. She\'s pretty much stuck without the help of a professional md or nd, who can help her wean off, and discover why she had to go on it in the first place. What would have made her arteries sensitive to the calcium? Lifestyle? Diet? Heredity? Or just some cardiologist making guesses and having something work for his/her other patients.\r\n

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Calcium channel blocker. Ah yes. As I said.
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\nAnyway, if she really wanted to quit the blocker, she would have to make it a point to take more magnesium regularly while she weaned herself off. But if there really is a problem with the calcium constricting the arteries, she may not be able to take enough magnesium and it would only give her a magnesium induced diarrhea. Another problem is that we are taking more vitamin D3 due to all the studies and advertisements out there. This is already a warning with calcium channel blockers. "No high dose of D". It only defeats the blocker. She\'s pretty much stuck without the help of a professional md or nd, who can help her wean off, and discover why she had to go on it in the first place. What would have made her arteries sensitive to the calcium? Lifestyle? Diet? Heredity? Or just some cardiologist making guesses and having something work for his/her other patients.

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However, she is on the lowest dose of norvasc\r\n

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However, she is on the lowest dose of norvasc

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Yes, but it doesn\'t matter. Even the 5mg tab is enough for the body to be dependent. Unfortunately it does work. It immediately improves blood pressure. She is probably on an ACE inhibiter too, right? It seems all the cardiologists want people on at least 3 things - ACE inhibitor, beta blocker, and calcium channel blocker. Then if they don\'t work, a statin. This is so they don\'t have to spend the effort in real diagnosis.
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Yes, but it doesn\'t matter. Even the 5mg tab is enough for the body to be dependent. Unfortunately it does work. It immediately improves blood pressure. She is probably on an ACE inhibiter too, right? It seems all the cardiologists want people on at least 3 things - ACE inhibitor, beta blocker, and calcium channel blocker. Then if they don\'t work, a statin. This is so they don\'t have to spend the effort in real diagnosis.
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She is on inderol for the shakes, but it is a beta blocker\r\n

[Ted_Hutchinson]

Bitter Pill: Why Medical Bills Are Killing Us

I think doctors simply regard us cash cows waiting to be milked as required because we are too stupid to take any action on our own to prevent or delay the onset of chronic illness.