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\nI lost mine almost 2 years ago when my dept got slashed to p/t positions, just under what\'s considered f/t so we lost benefits. \nLost 2 weeks vacation, sick days, bonus days, medical & life insurance. \nIf I have to visit the doctor, it\'s what... $100? Haven\'t had to go yet.. knock on wood... And the dentist for cleanings 2x a year runs $240. \nMed ins would cost close to $700 a month, which I don\'t have. \n \nI used to stress over it bigtime. Why, ya know? If something catastrophic happens I\'ll have to swallow my pride & apply for charity care. \r\n \r\n __________________ \r\n <!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n <!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n \r\n The art of medicine consists of amusing the patient while nature cures the disease ~Voltaire~ \r\n | \r\n
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\nAnd your presidential candidate of choice was........................\r\n \r\n __________________ \r\n <!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n <!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n \r\n "We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now you begin to understand me." George Orwell \n\r\n | \r\n
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\nLately I stress over everything. It is in hyperdrive. \n \n I feel like there is a big old boot in my stomach i just cannot digest and at times it feels like old gallbladder pains - but I don\'t have my gallbladder! Tired. ODD. \n \nStress is killah. I gotto getagripquick.\r\n | \r\n
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My Health Insurance is Going Up to $1500 a month!
My health insurance plus dental (for a family) is going up to $1500 a month!
I'm a teacher and that is almost half my salary. My wife and I are looking into private health insurance for our family, because there is no way we can afford that. This is crazy. I'm currently paying about 900 a month for health and dental, which I thought was crazy expensive. An increase of 600 more dollars a month...craziness. |
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