\r\n \r\n Two years ago, I was treating a woman who developed a mycobacterium infection of the lung, following inhalation of "black dust" which dispersed from a dead tree trunk as she cut it down. That she developed acute rheumatoid arthritis almost immediately and was hospitalised for two weeks seemed connected.
\nHer respiratory infection was, of course, treated with long-term antibiotics, with minimal success.
\nEventually I was able to inform her about colloidal silver, and made some for her. I loaned her a nebuliser. She nebulised 5 mls CS Five times a day for a month, after which the path lab reported sometimes no culture, sometimes sparse colonies. I recall that the symptoms returned twice over the following year and were treated in the same way, I have not seen her for at least one year. I hope that no news is good news!
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\r\n \r\n Xania, what do you use to make your collodial silver?\r\n

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\r\n \r\n Can anyone recommend a good Nebulizer to use with Colloidal Silver?? Also, the best brand of CS to use in this way?
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\r\n \r\n Yes, colloidal silver in a nebulizer will work just fine as long as the silver is clear, has a pH that is neutral (6-8) and has a strength of 25 ppm.
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\r\nThis young man should also take CS orally, at least two ounces twice per day, and would also suggest a daily smoothie containing virgin organic coconut oil.
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\r\nHe should also eliminate all dairy, all glutan, grains, and sugars, especially HFCS.
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\r\nOlive leaf extract, from seagate company, is a very strong antifungal. I would suggest he take some along with resveratrol, for killing mold/fungus.
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\r\n \r\n With all that\'s been said lately about cancer being a fungus, I\'ve added a tiny pinch of bicarbinate of soda to distilled water in my nebulizer. I read about doing that somewhere.
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\r\nI\'ve used colloidal silver in my nebulizer many times, and, besides my lungs, I usually breathe it into my sinuses by turning the hose backwards...and let the vapor go into my ears to cover all bases.
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\r\nI use my nebulizer for COPD medication, so it is supplied by my insurance through my oxygen provider. Most of the ones for sale are by prescription only, but there are a few available without a prescription too. You just need to look around.\r\n

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\r\n \r\n How do you take CS in your nebulizer & does it help your COPD? Do you continue taking your COPD meds & if so how is it spaced apart from the CS treatments? What is your procedure to breathe into your sinuses at the back of the hose? How do you vapor your ears? can you be more specific?\r\n

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\r\n \r\n Sorry to jump into this thread, but I wanted to share this...
\nhttps://www.colloidalsilverkillsviruses.com/
\nI ran across this while looking into getting CS for our family because I\'ve seen several of you recommend it before.
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\nIt\'s very convincing...it seems that you can possibly use CS to keep from ever even being infected with the flu and other illnesses in the first place. They are very specific about the size of the silver being in the 1 to 10 nm range. I know many of you recommend getting clear silver that is 25ppm...would this be in that size range?
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\nI\'m not sure if I will buy the kit to make the silver myself, but I would be very interested to know of some good brands to look at buying - both to take orally as a preventative and for a nebulizer in the case of infection.
\nI think that someone had mentioned that Respiratory Support CS was a good one for the neb. https://www.health-reports.com/pneumonia.html
\nSo, what about an oral one to take daily?
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\nAnd - yet again - as with all the questions that I have for you guys, I need to know if this is a safe product for children. Does anyone have any experience with CS being given to children? I guess my biggest fear would be to give my children something to keep them healthy, only to find out years later that the very thing I gave them is found to have some adverse affect that no one knew about at the time...
\nThanks again in advance!\r\n

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\r\n \r\n I just found this product...10 ppm and .001 micron, which I believe is equal to 1 nm. And the price seems pretty good. Thoughts?
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\r\n \r\n Hi MegRG! I just checked out that site, and the Bio-Alternatives colloidal silver does sound interesting! It\'s 10ppm, particle size is .001 micron, 99.9% pure silver. What I really like is the price! 32oz. for $28.97! Also has a 30 day money back guarantee.
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\nHas anyone here ever tried Bio-Alternatives CS? If so, and comments, good or bad? Thanks!\r\n

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\r\n \r\n I just ordered a bottle of this Respiratory Support Molecular Silver. I heard about it on a radio show a long time ago, and it\'s supposed to be used with a nebulizer. Now I\'ll try their link to see what nebulizers are available.
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\r\n \r\n I\'m going to buy more Colloidal Silver, besides the Respiratory Support (molecular).
\nThis is an old chart, but I haven\'t found any CS, including Nutrasilver, that sounds like it\'s better than Mesosilver 20PPM, by Purest Colloids. I\'ve used this before and wasn\'t impressed, would like to try something new, that also would be good in nebulizer??
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\r\n \r\n What about Sovereign Silver?
\nhttps://www.sovereignsilver.info/
\nThat\'s what my friend sells in her Store. I\'ve been doing my own research for a couple of days now, and it had everything I was looking for (everything that a good quality CS should have, to the best of my knowledge) so I went ahead and bought some. I am pretty sure you can use it in a Neb., but if you look into it you might be able to find out for sure.
\nI had some questions about it before I bought it so I called the number on their site, and they were very helpful and answered all of my questions. They were very professional and I was very impressed!
\nI\'m trying it out right now on my sinus infection...I\'ll let you know how it goes!\r\n

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\r\n \r\n Thanks MegRG! I\'ll consider it, just thought 20ppm was twice as strong as the 10ppm of the Sovereign Silver. However, the SS is clear, as opposed to the amber color of the Mesosilver.
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\nSorry to hear you have a sinus infection I\'ll be waiting to hear your results with the SS. Hope you\'re better soon!
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\r\n \r\n Thanks so much! I\'ll let you know\r\n

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\r\nThis Sovereign Silver is what I\'ve bought several times in the last 5 or 6 years, when I\'m too lazy to make my own, or when I want to be sure the particle size is small and hopefully safer nebulized into my lungs. It is expensive from the manufacturer here, but I bought it a little cheaper at my local health food store. I will send you a link to VitaCost at your pm mailbox on here that\'s $5 cheaper than the manufacture\'s site for the 4 oz bottle that I bought. Some people on here mention using a lot stronger ppm, but I\'m not sure that it\'s necessary. I don\'t recommend using something strong in the lungs, in fact I used to dilute this kind with part distilled water. You can look at the research that was done at the site. This Sovereign Silver is 10 ppm and 0.0008 microns in size. An easy way to test the silver to see if it\'s suspended in the water (without shaking the bottle) is to shine a red lazer light through it. Distilled water has no minerals so won\'t reflect light, but the silver glows and there should be a bright beam when you shine the light through the bottle. The silver should stay suspended in the water all the time, until it loses it\'s electric charge, after which it isn\'t very effective. I\'ve had to hurry writing this...I hope it makes sense!
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\nThanks Night Owl! I\'m glad you posted about it - I wondered if anyone else had used it with success...
\nThat\'s right - that is a nano...which is smaller that a micron I believe.\r\n

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\r\n \r\n the reason I say to use nutrasilver is because it kills morgellons disease pathogens. No other colloidal silver has been able to do this. I would not us any other and I know that lots of folks like other products but I do know that some of these 10 and 20 ppm has not been effective on the H1N1 virus. Personally I would not give colloidal silver to a child as a preventative. I would use vitamin D, vitamin C in large dosages and then if they get sick switch to mms. If the repiratory condition became severe I would use nutrasilver in a nebulizer.\r\n

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\r\n \r\n I like NutraSilver too. FDA certified lab tests. Easy to carry in real small bottles (30ml). Just 20 drops per 1/2 cup distilled water is plenty for me per dose.
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\nGee. I\'m sounding like a salesman. It\'s just that I\'ve tried several and landed on this. Utopia Silver is my second favorite.
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\nLab tests results for NutraSilver.
\nhttps://www.nutrasilver.com/pages/lab-test
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\nNutraSilver� is up to 3000 times stronger than 95% of the colloidal silver products on the market today. NutraSilver� was scientifically engineered with a new type of clustered water to vector the silver particles to the pathogens
\nhttps://www.nutrasilver.com/pages/faqs
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\nTrue Colloidal Silver is made from real silver particles and �suspends� naturally. NutraSilver� is 3,600 ppm.\r\n

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\r\n \r\n According to this statement from Jon Barron\'s newsletter, the respiratory system is a major concern. I would opt for the colloidal silver over getting the vaccine anyday though.
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\r\nThis strain of swine flu, like the avian flu and Spanish flu before it, seems to have the ability to turn a person\'s immune system against itself so that it literally attacks the victim\'s lungs in what is known as a cytokine storm -' + '- and in extreme cases, literally eating them up. This is not theoretical. We see evidence of this as we read the reports of those who are dying now from swine flu and how they are dying -' + '-almost all from attacks on lung tissue, either directly or through secondary infection.\r\n

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\r\n \r\n kind2creatures, you don\'t have a pm link so I\'ll post the Vitacost link here.
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\r\n \r\n Thank you so much nightowl for your trouble and good information! I\'ve shopped at Vitacost before, and have found some good values!
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\r\n \r\n Well I\'m sold in Hydrogen Peroxide again- I use a diluted solution about 1 to 10 in water and a spray bottle to inhale it. Seems to help but never had a fungus. Colloidal silver is a good idea too, just more expensive.\r\n

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\r\n \r\n The "Molecula Silver" I just bought has a small amount of food grade hydrogen peroxide in it. It specifies of the bottle, "for use in nebulizer only". Has peroxide AND is expensive! \r\n

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\r\n \r\n Hi, kind2creatures,
\ndo you remember if it (i.e. Respiratory support formula with H2O2) worked for you? Their website claims molecular one has better penetration than both ionic and colloidal.\r\n

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\r\n \r\n I haven\'t had the need to use it yet, the bottle is still unopened and kept in a cool, dark area. The Omron nebulizer I bought has not been used either. Hopefully I\'ll stay healthy and won\'t need to use them. Like pinballdoctor said, it\'s better to have and not use, than need and not have. \r\n

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\r\n \r\n Thanks. I\'ll look that up when I have more time. I\'m always looking for something beneficial to the lungs.\r\n

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\r\n \r\n 1/The size of colloidal silver particles continue to increase during the storage life. Even if the unlikely-small particles claimed by some companies were measured accurately, they are no longer quite that small virtually immediately after the measurement. 2/ 10 ppm is plenty.The patient would simply use more/ (nebulize longer), than with 20ppm. 3/ There\'s no meaningful superiority of ionic or colloidal silver. a/ Ionic is a bit more efficient for nebulizing, as the lungs won\'t convert the ions into salts, but colloidal is fine. b/ Colloidal is a bit more efficient for swallowing, as there are less ions to convert to salts in the stomach, but ionic will also work quite well. 4/Agyria can\'t be caused unless the colloidal process is a sped-up with salt in the water. Modern methods, (including newer home machines), use pure water. 5/ If there really is a colloidal silver with 3.600ppm, it\'s not 3,000 x the weakest, (10ppm), product: a/ 3,600: 360 x 10, 180 x 20ppm. b/ Clustered water is a quality of surface water in motion, & won\'t maintain such in still, bottled water. 6/ Ppm don\'t mean much in a nebulizer, where ions are more effective. Ions have virtually no mass and are not accounted for in the ppm measurement. 7/ Accepting the 3,600ppm claim & accepting that one isn\'t likely to increase dosage 180 times to match it, what ppm is really optimal? Such wonderful results have been had with 10ppm, a few more breaths equal the effects of 20ppm..is 3,600 really any better?\r\n

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\r\n \r\n I will contiue to back 3,600 ppm until other products can demonstrate to me their capacity for killing morgellon\'s disease at 10 or 20 or whatever lessor ppm.
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\nI have heard too many stories where this lower ppm products failed during a crisis.
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\r\n \r\n This forum has led me to seek more info on morgellon\'s, which I knew nothing about until yeasterday. Quite a horrifying disease, or syndrome in response to poisoning, as the case may be. Admittedly, tho, not my reason for using silver. 1/Have you had first-hand experience with 3600ppm \'killing\' morgelon\'s? Everything I\'ve found seems not so clearly proven as the claims. 2/I began using 10% ionic for pneumonia-like symptoms a few years ago, & was fine in a few days, while my otherwise healthy, strong friend who went to the hospital w/the same symptoms, died. In other words: It worked well in a crisis. But 3/why wait for a crisis? Ionic silver-water nebulizer-therapy\'s painless, harmless, cheap, (compared to drugs), & may -avert- that crisis! I suppose if it were an major issue, 4/\'homebrew\' silver could be boiled-down to 3600ppm in a jiffy. That\'s -got- to be how they do it: In spite of how secretive \'proprietary\' methods are, it\'s a fair assumption that the most obvious, easiest way IS the way, until proven otherwise. (Hmmmm: Continuing the manufacturing process in some magical way to make it 360 times stronger than anyone else knows how to, or boiling it down, let me guess.)\r\n

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\nI have recommended homemade silver before, and 10 and 20 ppm, but other people in the healing profession recommend much higher and they do it because the reports of success is much higher.
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\nNurtrasilver, aside from being 3,600 ppm is manufactured using clustered water that facilitates its intry into and out of cells and this is what makes the biggest difference in this product. It has demonstrated the ability to get into morgellons parasites, which has proven to be the toughest parasite known, probably due to its laboratory creation.\r\n

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\r\n \r\n It\'s an old thread, but I hope some participants may still be around.
\nI want to doublecheck- when you use colloidal silver with nebulizer, do you further dillute it with water, or you just pour the CS solution as is?
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\r\n \r\n My nebulizer uses 3ml in its chamber. That is not very much. My colloidal silver is 20ppm. No dilution required. I am using mine with a nose instrument to nebulize for my sinuses, so I can\'t speak to lungs. However, it is the best delivery for silver into the lungs as well as sinuses.\r\n

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\r\n \r\n Why can\'t you just use a little spray bottle instead of a nebulizer?\r\n

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\r\n \r\n You can breath a micronized mist deeply into your lungs with a nebulizer. This is the most efficient method, & by the time you have respiratory symptoms, it\'s necessary. A spray is ok to hit the back of the throat as a precaution to keep bacterial/viral/fungal loads down to manageable levels as a part of everyday hygiene, or when your only symptom is a sore throat. If a respiratory issue has already begun, but is not yet symptomatic, spray won\'t be enough to stop the disease\'s progression. There\'s no down-side to nebulization, so \'better safe than sorry\' applies.\r\n

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\r\n \r\n Colloidal silver will only help COPD if there is a viral or bacterial infection. Some COPD folks get frequent infection because drainage is comprimised so the colloidal silver is done to try to prevent infections.
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\nNightowl is no longer with us. She passed away last year from complications from COPD.
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