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What would be a good multi mineral supplement? And do minerals need to be chelated or not to be good?
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Default Daily Total One by Country Life

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What would be a good multi mineral supplement? And do minerals need to be chelated or not to be good?
I've been using Daily Total One (Iron free) by Country Life ($7.33 for 60 veg caps at Vitacost), ingredients follow:

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A Complete and Balanced Iron Free Dietary Supplement.
  • A basic one a day multi-vitamin and mineral formula designed to support general health and well-being.
  • Designed to accentuate quality and balanced ingredients rather than "mega-doses" of nutrients.
  • Iron-free formula which is most appropriate for the majority of the population.
  • Ingredients selected for bioavailability, as well as hypoallergenic properties.
  • This formulation is vegetarian compliant and is manufactured under GMP (Good Manufacturing Practices) and contains no iodine.
  • Available in convenient, easy to swallow vegetarian capsules.
  • Bioperine� is a patented black pepper extract that has been clinically proven to improve nutrient uptake.
  • Plant enzymes support nutrient digestion and assimilation, sparing the body's valuable supply of enzymes and saving energy in the digestive process. Plant enzymes have been shown to work synergistically with Bioperine� extract.
  • Phytase enzymes break down the "anti-nutrient" compound phytate found in whole grains that can inhibit nutrient uptake through potential nutrient binding.
Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 1 Vegetarian Capsules
Servings per Container: 60

Amount Per Serving% Daily Value

Vitamin A (as beta carotene, retinyl palmitate)5000 I.U100%

Vitamin C (as calcium ascorbate, ascorbyl palmitate)60 mg100%

Vitamin D (as ergocalciferol)200 I.U50%

Vitamin E (as d-alpha tocopheryl acid succinate)120 I.U400%

Vitamin K (as phytonadione)25 mcg31%

Thiamin (vitamin B1)(as thiamine HCl, cocarboxylase)10 mg667%

Riboflavin (vitamin B2)(as riboflavin, riboflavin 5' phosphate)10 mg588%

Niacin (as niacinamide, niacin, inositol hexanicotinate)40 mg200%

Vitamin B6 (as pyridoxine HCl, pyridoxal 5' phosphate)20 mg1,000%

Folic Acid400 mcg100%

Vitamin B12 (as dibencozide)120 mcg2,000%

d-Biotin100 mcg33%

Pantothenic Acid (as d-calcium pantothenate, pantethine)40 mg400%

Calcium (as calcium hydroxyapatite, citrate)20 mg2%

Phosphorus (as calcium hydroxyapatite)5 mg<2%

Magnesium (as magnesium rice chelate, citrate)15 mg4%

Zinc (as zinc monomethionine)15 mg100%

Selenium (as selenium amino acid chelate, L-selenomethionine)200 mcg286%

Copper (as copper citrate)1 mg50%

Manganese (as manganese citrate)2 mg100%

Chromium (as chromium polynicotinate)120 mcg100%

Molybdenum (as molybdenum citrate)20 mcg27%

Potassium (as potassium citrate)10 mg<2%

Inositol (as inositol, inositol hexanicotinate)20 mg*

Choline (from 30 mg choline bitartrate)13.8 mg*

Phytase20 P H U*

PABA (para-aminobenzoic acid)10 mg*

Enzyme Blend (Aspergillus niger, Aspergillus oryzae) Providing:

Protease309 HU T*

Amylase106 D.U*

Lipase1.13 LU*

Cellulase1.25 CU*

Lactase46.9 LACU*

Phospholipid Complex5 mg*

Silica (as silica, horsetail extract 4:1 [leaf/stem])5 mg*

Betaine (from 5 mg betaine HCl)3.8 mg*

Trace Mineral Complex3 mg*

Black pepper extract (Bioperine�)(95% piperine equal to 2.85 mg)3 mg*

Boron (as boron citrate)500 mcg*

Vanadium (as BGOV [bis-glycinato oxovanadium])200 mcg*

*Daily value not established.


Other Ingredients: Cellulose (capsule shell), cellulose, magnesium stearate, silica.


Free Of
Iron, wheat, gluten, milk, sugar, preservatives and artificial color.

Directions
Adults take one (1) capsule daily with food.
I believe that chelated forms of minerals include citrate, asparate, ascorbate, etc., they are preferred. Carbonate, such as calcium carbonate is poorly absorbed.
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Hello Everybody,

Multi minerals vary greatly in quality and absorption. The chelating agent is the primary factor in determining your body's ability to utilize the minerals efficiently.

Chelated is a generic term that means "attached to". Chelates are the organic substance an otherwise inorganic mineral is compounded with to make the body recognize it as food. All minerals in whole food sources are naturally chelated. That's why minerals derived from whole food sources are so efficiently utilized by your body.

Generally, in a supplement, chelated minerals are going to be your most cost effective option. Some major factors in determining the effectiveness of a mineral formula include the formula (the amount and ratio of each mineral to the other), presence of trace minerals and other vital co-factors, and the form of the minerals (including chelating agent/s).

A good formula will be balanced (proper ratios of cal/mag and copper/zinc, for instance), and complete (comprehensive range of minerals). To be comprehensive, the multi mineral should have calcium, iron, iodine, magnesium, zinc, selenium, copper, manganese, chromium, and potassium. One exception would be iron. If you prefer a multi without iron, that one is easy enough to make up through food sources.

As for balance, I'm a big fan of mineral formulas that go a little heavy on magnesium over calcium. This is based on magnesium being a bit deficient in most American diets. I look for a 6:5 ratio or an easier to find 2:1 magnesium over calcium. The copper/zinc ratio should be from 1:10 to 1:15. That means 1 mg. copper to each 10-15 mgs of zinc.

Trace minerals and other co-factors help the big minerals (macro minerals) get digested and assimilated. Trace minerals act as the catalyst to allow the macro minerals to perform their many job functions. Silica is a particularly important trace mineral. Other co-factors in mineral supplements include Vitamin C, Vitamin D, Vitamin K, and BioPerine (black pepper extract that enhances cellular absorption). All of these greatly assist in the overall benefit.

For most minerals, the most ideal chelating agent would be citrates, asporotates (a combo of aspartic acid and orotic acid), or amino acid chelates, also referred to as aminoates. There are other options, but these three are typically easy to find and have excellent absorption rates. Microcrystalline Hydroxyapatite (MCHC to his friends) is a great option but only if all the co-factors are present. Without them, it's absorption rate isn't that great.

One of my favorite products is Ionic Fizz Calcium Plus by Pure Essence Labs. It's a powder that actually tastes pretty good without any refined sugar. After being mixed with liquid, the minerals take on an ionic form, the same form found in whole foods. For a supplemental form of minerals, this one is a great option.
https://www.vitacost.com/PureEssenceL...ngredientFacts

A simple to find classic formula is Jarrow Formulas Bone-Up. I've worked with scores of clients looking to improve bone density and Bone-Up is always reliable. An excellent choice for a bone building mineral supplement.
https://www.vitacost.com/Jarrow-Formu...ngredientFacts

Thanks to everybody for sharing their thoughts.
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Thank you for the detailed information. I also wanted some info on this subject.

Not real sure about the thoughts that went behind the "bone up" product name, but I guess the Viagra people missed the boat also.

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Hello D Bergy,

I'd have to agree with you on the name choice. I've heard the formulator, Jarrow Rogovin, has no sense of humor. If he was the one who named the product, I would have to disagree. I think it's pretty funny. Maybe the pharmaceutical company should have gone for Bone-up, instead. It's pretty specific sounding. I reckon it's fortunate he didn't go with Bone Hard.

Glad you enjoyed the information. Have a good one.
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I have used a chelated advanced multimineral for over 9 years. Take with an advanced multi antioxidant for them to work in synergy and with balance.
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