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\nOccupy Wall Street is leaderless resistance movement with people of many colors, genders and political persuasions. The one thing we all have in common is that We Are The 99% that will no longer tolerate the greed and corruption of the 1%.
\nThe original call for this occupation was published by Adbusters in July; since then, many individuals across the country have stepped up to organize this event, such as the people of the NYC General Assembly and US Day of Rage. There\'ll also be similar occupations in the near future such as October2011 in Freedom Plaza, Washington D.C.
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\nThis Has been going on for several days, I don\'t know how much media attention it is receiving as I don\'t have a TV. Is this the beginning of the revolution we have been waiting for?
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Dick Armey, a Tea Party former, was hugely involved in NAFTA, the policy that took American Jobs south of the border. Now, Mexico prospers as we decline. You should see it down there! Factories and highways and trucks everywhere, with American corporations!
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\nWe have a 401 and we are counting on it like so many others. But we are not fools about it. This nations economy has been ruined. We will not be able to prop it up for much longer. Millions of jobs left our nation when corporations walked out on us for higher profits... many of those people are still unemployed or under employed... with their cities falling apart at the seems where these industries once resided. Hershey chocolat recently, since 2008 onset of recession moved a huge fraction of their work to Mexico. I consider this traitorous.
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Default Occupy Wall Street

Who is Occupy Wall Street?

Occupy Wall Street is leaderless resistance movement with people of many colors, genders and political persuasions. The one thing we all have in common is that We Are The 99% that will no longer tolerate the greed and corruption of the 1%.
The original call for this occupation was published by Adbusters in July; since then, many individuals across the country have stepped up to organize this event, such as the people of the NYC General Assembly and US Day of Rage. There'll also be similar occupations in the near future such as October2011 in Freedom Plaza, Washington D.C.

On September 21st, 2011, we stood in solidarity with Madrid, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Madison, Toronto, London, Athens, Sydney, Stuttgart, Tokyo, Milan, Amsterdam, Algiers, Tel Aviv, Portland and Chicago. Soon we will stand with Phoenix, Montreal, Cleveland and Atlanta. We're still here. We are growing. We intend to stay until we see movements toward real change in our country and the world.
You have fought all the wars. You have worked for all the bosses. You have wandered over all the countries. Have you harvested the fruits of your labors, the price of your victories? Does the past comfort you? Does the present smile on you? Does the future promise you anything? Have you found a piece of land where you can live like a human being and die like a human being? On these questions, on this argument, and on this theme, the struggle for existence, the people will speak. Join us.


This Has been going on for several days, I don't know how much media attention it is receiving as I don't have a TV. Is this the beginning of the revolution we have been waiting for?

Please send the organization money if you cannot go. So far they have made their goals in donations which go to pay for food for the protesters. Many protestors are unemployed.

On their web page you can read their list of demands, which includes an end to health profiteering
https://occupywallst.org/

is a link to donations (food fund for protesters):
https://www.wepay.com/donate/99275
They have collected $15,727.40 already when I write this.
My $25 just flew to them 10 mins ago

Lets hope they do not let themselves be tricked into violence by NYPD.
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