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A reverse osmosis filter is about the only way to get rid of it and works well for drinking water but is not suitable for providing large quantities. It uses about six gallons of water to make one gallon of treated water.

An RO system with a permeate pump will use 3/1 or 4/1, depending on what you need to bypass based on your water hardness. I'm running at 3/1 because it's not so much minerals I'm concerned with, it's all the organics. Consuming about 2.5 liters of water a day means I'm wasting about one flush from a modern 1.7gpf toilet to drink pure, fresh, delicious water.

Large Volume Reverse Osmosis Systems
18,000 to 270,000 gallons per day



https://www.bauereng.com/large_volume_ro_systems.htm


They get even bigger, too.




As with anything, an economy of scale is gained with increased production. Large industrial systems back flush their membranes and get an easy five years of use. Small, under-the-counter systems such as mine rely on disposable membranes, that have a maximum two year service life.

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Consuming about 2.5 liters of water a day means I'm wasting about one flush from a modern 1.7gpf toilet to drink pure, fresh, delicious water.
I agree, however, this pure fresh delicious water is void of all minerals, so hopefully you are taking a good mineral product daily... one that contains several (60) minerals in colloidal form..

I drink RO water as well. It is slightly acidic (6.8) but I make up for that by taking alot of supplements, such as potassium, calcium, magnesium, that will easily neutralize the acidity.

It also helps to avoid coffee and sodas..
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I agree, however, this pure fresh delicious water is void of all minerals, so hopefully you are taking a good mineral product daily... one that contains several (60) minerals in colloidal form..

I drink RO water as well. It is slightly acidic (6.8) but I make up for that by taking alot of supplements, such as potassium, calcium, magnesium, that will easily neutralize the acidity.

It also helps to avoid coffee and sodas..
Not much for bioavailable minerals in tap water, but I do agree with you on everything else. I do use concentrace minerals.

Most minerals in your tap water will be removed by a sediment filter. Not exactly fine enough to be adsorbed by your system.

Furthermore, not all the minerals in your tap water are desirable, and if your eating a balanced diet, the 'good' minerals being removed are insignificant.

Tap water as a source of valuable minerals is the argument used by those who feel added fluorine is a health benefit.

I wouldn't drink soda pop if it was given to me, which it is on occasion.

I've started cold brewing my organic, shade grown coffee. If you drink coffee, I recommend you give it a try. You can cold brew with no special equipment to see if you like it. Give it a few tries, because it is different, but I think you'll find it better. The flavor is more complex due to the volatiles not being lost during the hot brew, and it is less acidic too, adding a benefit to taste and reducing acid consumption.
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I've started cold brewing my organic, shade grown coffee.
I'd like to give it a try. Thank you.
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Most cotton uses beef tallow for ginning; vegans beware.

Poly Ethyer Tetraphalate and polyester are not the same stuff. Most shower curtains are made out of PVC. PVC most likely brings the water into your house, or at least carries the waste away. Lots of PVC in your car interior.

I know how everyone loves to hate plastic, but when you drive past the refinery and see that big flame burning, remember, those spent gasses can make grocery bags that save trees.
Our plumbings are of the copper/gray metal type. Husband will NOT allow any plastic in/on house. But the car - sitting in the hot sun...those off-gasses have GOT to be killer.

I am thinking - HEMP. Yes, it's costly - but with the new veggie garden giving bounties of fresh organic lettuces, peppers, carrots, cukes, etc and the money saved with cancelling cable tv - I will stash a little aside here and there and invest.
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