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Old 08-07-2012, 05:05 AM
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A warning about vinyl shower curtains


https://www.examiner.com/article/a-wa...hower-curtains


The shower curtain i have in my bathroom is just a plain one that has been here since before i moved in, i dont know how many people passed through the apartment and used it while living here, so thats a good enough reason for me to buy a new shower curtain, but i wasnt really interested in this and making it a priority up untill a few days ago when i read about the dangers of having a vinyl shower curtain, i know if i mention this to people many will say its a small thing and just try to take my attention to smoking and other stuff, like ''you think changing your shower curtain is gonna do anything good for you and you smoke?'' good thing i dont waste my time around many people these days, it takes away stress and having to explain stuff most of them couldnt or dont want to understand anyway, for me its looking at the big picture, an endless journey...

My health has been great lately, and so my journey continues...

If anyone knows what would be the ''healthiest'' shower curtain to get im listening for opinions. The shower curtain i have now i dont do any upkeep for it, i take my shower and walk out without a second thought about drying the shower curtain or anything like that, but i expect the healthiest choice to require some upkeep after every ''use''(when it gets wet). Any suggestions on what material shower curtain to buy would be appreciated, thanks
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Polyester and cotton are good solutions, but neither is a guilt-free fabric either – cotton uses tons of pesticides and polyester is PET plastic -- tons of nasty chemicals are used to process it. Organic cotton is a good choice, but it might not wick water away as well as you’d like it to. Hemp is good, but often pricey. Same for linen – this one at Gaiam will run you $59 bucks. Here’s a recycled polyester curtain from Health Goods, at a pretty unreasonable $69.95. You might find that the problem with the cheap nylon curtain is that it can fly around a bit, but most come with magnets sewn into the bottom. You can throw it in the washing machine when it gets moldy, and if it sticks to your leg every once in a while at least you’ll know it wasn’t crawling with mold.

Read more: https://www.thedailygreen.com/living-...#ixzz22rVijwp4


From what i see they're all either bad for health or too expensive...

At the end of the day i might just take the one i have off and keep on living, my ancestors didnt have shower curtains and they survived hahaha
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I just took it off and the one i have(had) now is 100% polyester, no good...
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Ok ive decided...for myself

For now i will just live without having a shower curtain...(And at this moment im glad i live alone, because otherwise it would be a war with a girlfriend or roomate or whoever to do this)

Later on when i have more money i will buy hemp or a linen shower curtain...

And some day in the future when i get my own apartment or house i will make sure my shower has a sliding glass door...

That's it, simple...
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You can use a cheap vinyl shower curtain, however, the key is to let it air out for a couple of days, preferably outside. Once the smell is gone it will be fine. Is it still going to be toxic? yes, however, no more toxic than the chlorine, etc., coming through the shower head and into your lungs..

Also, most of the "non slip" bath mats are made from vinyl as well..
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the problem with vinyl shower curtains was that they were outgassing. Now they are frequently labled non vinyl. They will still be plastic but wont outgas. I think polyester is ok. I purchased on last year labled nonvinyl and it was fine. No smell.

No way would I pay $60 for a shower curtain. you could always use just cotton but you would have to wash it frequently.

I spray my plastic shower curtain with MMS2 to keep mold away. Works great
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I spray my plastic shower curtain with MMS2 to keep mold away. Works great
Ionic silver also kills any mold, and does so without any odour.

And speaking about silver, have you completed your book on colloidal silver yet? I would be very interested in reading it!
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Not a book, only a chapter and no not yet. too busy with garden and farmer's market. Things keep getting in the way.
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Is it still going to be toxic? yes, however, no more toxic than the chlorine, etc., coming through the shower head and into your lungs..

Also, most of the "non slip" bath mats are made from vinyl as well..
For me and my logic reading what you wrote i got 2 toxic things, shower cutain and chlorine coming through the shower head, nothing i can do about the shower head (right?), i didnt even know that untill you said it now, but the shower curtain i can deal with, so i removed it and now taking those 2 things into consideration, my bathroom is 50% less toxic.

I dont have a bath mat.

I always say im radical about this stuff, anything no matter how minimally damaging to my body is to be removed and/or replaced with a healthy or just not unhealthy alternative, thats how it has to be, thats the choice i make.
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I have just purchased another EVA-vinyl RICE paper *design* shower curtain by Ex-cell home fashions, thru amazon.

My fabric curtain is one from Pakistan - 100% cotton (not sure of it's gmo status, tho ).


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Speaking of water, if you are on city water it comes to you with chlorine and probably fluoride added. The chlorine does kill many of the “bugs” that might be swimming around in it but if you take a nice hot shower that chlorine can be released as a gas, this of course is the same gas that Hitler used in some of his famous communal showers. There are filters that can remove the chlorine however the typical hardware store verity run about $5 a piece and don’t last all that long. Thus they are best used to get the chlorine out of your drinking water.

As you might expect there are better ways your city water could be cleaned up but hey what the heck simply adding chlorine is very cost effective

The fluoride is another problem your told it is there to “promote” healthier teeth unfortunately that is a lie in reality it does just the opposite. In addition it also affects your brain and makes one more docile and obedient. Thus those in power are somehow reluctant to get rid of it. Here again Hitler used it in his POW camps to keep the masses submissive as they were lead to the showers.

A reverse osmosis filter is about the only way to get rid of it and works well for drinking water but is not suitable for providing large quantities. It uses about six gallons of water to make one gallon of treated water.

Back to the shower curtain my main concern would be about its ability to grow mold.
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For me and my logic reading what you wrote i got 2 toxic things, shower cutain and chlorine coming through the shower head, nothing i can do about the shower head (right?), i didnt even know that untill you said it now, but the shower curtain i can deal with, so i removed it and now taking those 2 things into consideration, my bathroom is 50% less toxic.

I dont have a bath mat.

I always say im radical about this stuff, anything no matter how minimally damaging to my body is to be removed and/or replaced with a healthy or just not unhealthy alternative, thats how it has to be, thats the choice i make.
With a member of my family being EXTREMELY chemical sensitive and we cannot afford whole house water filtration to eliminate the chlorine, I purchased a sprite slim line filter. The cartridges claim to:
Product Features

  • Removes chlorine, dirt, odors and more
  • For use with Sprite Slim-Line shower filters
  • NSF certified
  • Filter rated for 6 months or 10,000 gallons whichever comes first
  • Made in USA
I believe I ordered mine thru Gaiam catalog and I get replacement filters thru amazon

I have a very large white cotton throw on the floor. It extends from tub to door and is the width of the floor, too! No slipping at all due to its size. There is NO mat or gripper needed. Can be machine washed/dried.

The personal products (body/hair/etc) are all organic and chemical free *we have a gluten sensitive type here, as well.

Please be careful of ANY fragrances used in wash, too. They can be very toxic over time.
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The info on the EVA curtain - am looking into finding out what the anti-mildew agent is and what happens with contact with hot water!

  • The EVA Ricepaper shower curtain from Ex-Cell Home Fashions is , chlorine free, odorless and 100-percent EVA vinyl. The soft design emulates that of true rice paper. The curtain is treated with a anti-mildew agent.
    • Dimensions: 0.0 IN x 72.0 IN x 70.0 IN


ETA: Will begin saving $$$ to purchase HEMP shower curtain. They are costly - BUT no plastic/waterproof liner required. Naturally mildew resistant. The agent used on my liner for mildew resistance has me concerned.
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That looks good, I like it.
But we will see if they can keep reproducing it after three runs/generations.
If so then it is not GMO.
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Polyester and cotton are good solutions, but neither is a guilt-free fabric either – cotton uses tons of pesticides and polyester is PET plastic --

Most cotton uses beef tallow for ginning; vegans beware.

Poly Ethyer Tetraphalate and polyester are not the same stuff. Most shower curtains are made out of PVC. PVC most likely brings the water into your house, or at least carries the waste away. Lots of PVC in your car interior.

I know how everyone loves to hate plastic, but when you drive past the refinery and see that big flame burning, remember, those spent gasses can make grocery bags that save trees.
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