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Or the real question.. "How much of a difference does toothpaste make?" Has there even been a completely neutral study on this?

I have not tested it personally, but I've been brushing my teeth twice a day with toothpaste forever and I still tend to get dental problems. So I wonder, what would happen if I just brushed with water, or if I used toothpaste every other day, 3rd day, or more?

Very interested in any information on this, especially studies done.
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Hello bascotie, I have often used carb soda to brush my teeth with, (sprinkle a bit on tooth brush) it might not taste as nice as tooth paste but does just as good a job,I often wonder if toothpaste doesn't eventually scrub the enamel off our teeth.
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this article will tell you what you need to know

https://www.healthsalon.org/453/cavit...-oral-disease/
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Thanks for the advice guys. Nice article, too.

I'll probably go broke trying to buy all that stuff but luckily I recently replaced all my mercury fillings, though the white feelings are weaker (I notice I'm more sensitive to heat/cold which may be normal for a couple months, plus I had to get a filling patched already).

Other than that, i've picked up some Xylo tooth paste to try out.

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Hi bascotie, welcome. I've used fluoride toothpaste all of my life (late 50's), and have had problems over the years with cavities, etc. Jfh recommended using a mixture of EVCO (extra virgin coconut oil) and baking soda for daily brushing, and I've been very happy using this mix. No official dental benefits to report, but I like it enough to continue use. Have not heard of any real studies testing the worth of using toothpaste.
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Not that I do this, because I like the taste of a good healthy toothpaste. I had a dentist when I was just a teenager who told me you don't need toothpaste to brush your teeth. He said just use a brush and water, but you have to brush for 20 minutes everyday. I remember him being very old, and he told me he had all his teeth and they were in great shape. I just don't think people have time to stand for 20 minutes over the sink brushing their teeth in this fast moving world...
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Not that I do this, because I like the taste of a good healthy toothpaste. I had a dentist when I was just a teenager who told me you don't need toothpaste to brush your teeth. He said just use a brush and water, but you have to brush for 20 minutes everyday. I remember him being very old, and he told me he had all his teeth and they were in great shape. I just don't think people have time to stand for 20 minutes over the sink brushing their teeth in this fast moving world...
20 minutes!? That's only one episode of a tv show!
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I think we have to think about our Earliest Ancestors, what they ate and how they lived to understand how best to maintain our teeth.

Make no mistake having poor oral health leads to most of the diseases of Western Civilization. for a detailed analysis read
P. Hujoel Dietary Carbohydrates and Dental-Systemic Diseases

It's also worth reading the Mellanby/Price research information here at The Dental Essentials

See also this article Dr. Mellanby's Tooth Decay Reversal Diet

There is quite a lot of useful information at Zellies on Xylitol

I've changed from using a toothpaste containing fluoride to one with xylitol.
UK readers will know it's difficult to find fluoride free toothpaste in UK so I have to use IHERB to get it from the USA. Code WAB666 saves $5 initially at IHERB.
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Tartar, above and below the gum line, is comprised primarily of calcium phosphate salts, saliva, debris and other minerals. Visually, the structure of tartar is that of millions of fossilized bacteria bound together in tens of thousands of layers. Tartar has been universally understood to be inert - so hard that only mechanical scraping with steel dental instruments could remove it. Living within this porous material are fresh bacteria that ferment infection after infection. This tartar-bacteria connection is the true nature of periodontal disease.

This is why toothpastes are necessary. Unless you can find something else that will stop the bacteria cycle in producing tartar.
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All great info guys. I'm gonna try out the Xyliwhite toothpaste for a while.
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Another good toothpaste is called Natural Dentist, created by a Dentist. It is natural and fluoride-free. I am feeling the Peppermint Sage.
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