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Old 06-03-2012, 09:16 PM
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For almost 2 yrs I have suffered with teeth problems(infections) and facial swelling(right side). In December of 2011 I had root canal work done, this followed a series of dental infections(3).
My teeth are sore most of the time, and also feel "weird"! Sometimes it hurts when I eat biscuits(or anything hard), sometimes its OK. Its always the right side of my face which swells. The teeth that are causing me a problem are on the left side!
Today I once again suffered with my face swelling on the right side, this was followed by a high temperature. My wife was so worried she rang for an ambulance, and after 6 hrs at A&E I am none the wiser as why this occurs! They said it may be due to an allergy, something I've eaten - I don't think it is! I have recently been diagnosed with "mid face pain", which I've never heard of! Are they clutching at straws because it feels like it!
Can anyone shed any light on this?! I'd be most greatful! Today's episode was the worst I've had, I felt really ill! I was also aching all over, had headaches on the right side(!!!), and it was painful when trying to eat - my jaw was sore!

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Old 06-04-2012, 11:13 AM
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Dental work can cause the nerve to be permanently damaged in some cases. In other cases, and this is what my biomemetic dentist says, that the tooth will continue to hurt after the root canal or whatever was done because all the bacteria was not eliminated before the filling was placed and regulat dentists do no know how to get rid of all the bacteria.

I cannot stress enough that the old form of dentistry needs to be left behind. Seek a biomemetic dentist.
https://www.healthsalon.org/478/biomi...r-alleman-dds/

here are some things you can try, but absolutley, the most powerful thing you can do is a mouthwash with activated MMS, two times a day for the first week then one time a day.. then once a week
https://www.healthsalon.org/453/cavit...-oral-disease/
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Old 06-04-2012, 02:35 PM
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I agree with using MMS mouthwash, at a strength of 4 to 6 drops of activated sodium chlorite mixed with a tablespoon of water.

I would also suggest colloidal silver as a mouthwash. It will get down into root canals, etc., and will prevent infections of any kind.

The root canal is most likely the cause of your pain/swelling problem. Dentists assume no bacteria can get into the tooth, however, they are wrong.

Any "dark" amalgam fillings can also cause health issues, since they contain over 50% mercury.
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"Mid Face Pain"? That's their educated and authoritative diagnosis? OMG!

Listen to Arrowwind and Superman, I mean Pinball and you'll get rid of that infection.

I'm sorry you're suffering but you have answers now.
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Hello Revzen. Sorry to hear of your plight.
I agree with the others. Most likely an infection as built up due to your RCT. This has resulted in inflammation, which in turn has caused an alignment issue on the other side of your face.

A natural dentist should be able to help you.
There should be one fairly near to you.
Try this site...
https://www.naturaldentists.co.uk
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Migraine...headache....facial neuralgia...Check!

But "mid-face pain"??? I think that's 'Doctor-speak' for haven't got a clue!

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Old 06-05-2012, 07:24 AM
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Many, many thanks for your posts, and suggestions. Will implement the colloidal silver right away.
I need to add some more information. I have a genetic disorder, Familial Adenomatous Polyposis(FAP for short)which can cause dental problems. The diagnosis of Mid Face Pain was made by the surgeon who removed my nasal tumor in 2009, yes an ENT specialist! Laughable I know!
Regarding the root canal. My face was swelling before the root canal work, I think the dentist did it out of desperation on account of all my dental infections! But I will be using colloidal silver religiously from now on - to be honest I don't use it enough!
Sadly their are no holistic dentists where I live, or near enough to visit! So, ant natural tips from the excellent posters here will be most appreciated!

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Progress report:

In June and July(2012)I suffered with two dental infections(June - right side, July - left side) and was treated with anti-biotics. A week after seeing my dentist for a review on the July episode the problem tooth kicked off again, add to this the gum where a tooth has been extracted became sore; so I decided to treat this myself with home made colloidal silver, taking 6x5ml a day - after three days the tooth settled down.
A week has passed and the tooth and surrounding area is beginning to trouble me again, so I am once again upping my CS intake. I'll monitor the tooth over the weekend, and make an appointment to see the dentist, here's why:-

I rang up the Genetics Department(I have Familial Adenomatous Polyposis)and told them of my dental/jaw problems which have become progressively worse since I had a nasal tumor removed in 2009. A letter arrived today which explains to the dentist about my FAP, because the dentist must refer me to the Maxillofacial Surgeon. I am not being racist and I do like my dentist, but their is a language barrier! When I have told them about my FAP I am returned with a blank face! So this letter will hopefully do the trick! I need a Maxillofacial Scan! In other parts of the UK patients with FAP get a Maxillofacial Scan without asking - not where I live; its become a D-I-Y NHS, which is about to get even worse!

The letter says I have jaw cysts, and that I am at risk of getting dentiginous cysts and osteomata. It says I need to be referred to the above specialist. This should do the trick! If not, then I will give up!

The EN&T Specialist who diagnosed me with "mid face pain" is CLUELESS - and he is aware that I have FAP! My doctor has been useless, telling me to see my dentist for the referral. I explain to him about the language barrier, but he ignores this! Maybe I should go to an English speaking dentist, and see if this rectifies matters? But in the UK finding a decent dentist is getting much harder. Mind you all areas of health via the orthodox avenues are becoming farcical! My wife has also endured amateurish treatment, as did her Mother.
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Good new! In November I go for the jawbone scan which will reveal the true extent of what is going on!
I now have a chest infection and have gone partially deaf! I saw the doctor over this, he checked my ears as I thought I'd need my ears syringing. However he said my ears were fine! He says the deafness may be due to an infection. I took the anti biotics and still have the infection! Back to see the doctor tomorrow.
My face still feels like its in a vice 24/7, and I get pain in my teeth which are not toothache, also suffer with watery eyes and headaches.
I am now going to take half a pint of colloidal silver daily, as through trial and error I have found that when I lower the amount taken I suffer with infections! I suppose the bonus is that its not my teeth this time! Give the dentist a break!
Will post again in a few days.
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Old 09-24-2012, 06:55 AM
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First off - my ears!

Last week the GP I saw said my ears were fine, and the deafness was due to an infection. I took the anti-biotics for 5 days - and no improvement; so I went back and saw my regular GP who said my ears were full of wax and a syringe was in order!!! In the space of a week ears do not clog up with wax!!!

My breathing is still labored. I am getting out of breath easily which is worrying, but my oxygen levels were good which were tested with a new gadget! He said something strange though - asked if I'm losing weight! What with being partially deaf and being out of breath, I've not noticed any weight !!! So I'll weigh myself today!
And that is the latest update!!!
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revzen, why haven't you done the mms. Are you going to contiune on antibiotics all your life? antibioitics will only ruin your health further.
I would be doing protocol 1000+ and you should rinse your mouth with mms a couple of times a week.

You keep coming back here and we see that over time you are only getting worse, not better, as infection moves around and more antibiotics are taken.

Im warning you. What these doctors are doing to you will be your demise.

When you are not doing mms you should be taking lipsomal c. You can make this at home or purchase it here www.livonlabs.com or www.reachforhealth.com

I can see that your disease process is moving deeper, now affecting your respiratory system. This is clear indication that your disease process is progressing deeper as well as moving into deeper areas in your head.

I suggest that you go to this site and read every dam link offered on this site.
https://genesis2church.org/

BTW, huge amounts of ear wax indicates parasites... it is not normal. You have bugs in there that their antibiotics are not dealing with. Please note just how close the ears are to the brain. Ears drain into the throat via the eustachian tube.. the throat connects to the lungs via the trachea. Don't you see? You are riddled with infection and the antibiotics are barely doing anything but mutating organisms into new forms. you could end up with a resistant infection then you will really be in hell.



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Arrowwind09 - yes I deserve shouting at! I will read your link thoroughly, and, your not going to believe this I have found some MMS in the cupboard; bought a few years back and forgotten about!

Arrowwind09, yes it was foolish taking the anti biotics. I have successfully treated tooth infection with colloidal silver, so again, I was stupid! Never again. Regarding the CS, since I have upped my daily intake of CS I have not suffered with any dental problems; when I ease off I do notice that it feels like another infection is about to start, so I up the CS and avoid the infection.

My dental problems I believe are connected with my FAP. I am awaiting a Jawbone Scan in November. It will reveal whether I have any cysts or bone tumors, which can affect FAP sufferers. What I have noticed is that all these problems have come to the surface since my 2009 nasal tumor was removed. The fact that the tumor was near the top of the nose(right nostril)which isn't far from the brain did/does worry me.

I have pain in my jaw and cheekbone areas 24/7. My face feels like its in a permanent vice! My right eye often weeps. I get pain in my teeth(not toothache/sensitive teeth. My face swells up quite often. I get no help from my GP who is clueless about FAP so I go to a specialist FAP forum which is brilliant!

About my ears. Since age 5 I have suffered with my ears, needing regular syringing. At age 5, I used to get boils in my ears(yet my Mother was a clean freak so it wasn't down to poor personal hygiene!)and would get these lanced at the children's hospital. Not had boils in my ears since my early years - and don't want any now! Just regular syringing - which I enjoy!

The care from the NHS side of things regarding FAP has gotten worse over the years, and I have no faith in these people any more based on personal experience.

I need to buck up my ideas Arrowwind09, and I will.

This forum is a great place, so glad I found it
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revzen, why haven't you done the mms. Are you going to contiune on antibiotics all your life? antibioitics will only ruin your health further.
I would be doing protocol 1000+ and you should rinse your mouth with mms a couple of times a week.

You keep coming back here and we see that over time you are only getting worse, not better, as infection moves around and more antibiotics are taken.

Im warning you. What these doctors are doing to you will be your demise.

When you are not doing mms you should be taking lipsomal c. You can make this at home or purchase it here www.livonlabs.com or www.reachforhealth.com

I can see that your disease process is moving deeper, now affecting your respiratory system. This is clear indication that your disease process is progressing deeper as well as moving into deeper areas in your head.

I suggest that you go to this site and read every dam link offered on this site.
https://genesis2church.org/

BTW, huge amounts of ear wax indicates parasites... it is not normal. You have bugs in there that their antibiotics are not dealing with. Please note just how close the ears are to the brain. Ears drain into the throat via the eustachian tube.. the throat connects to the lungs via the trachea. Don't you see? You are riddled with infection and the antibiotics are barely doing anything but mutating organisms into new forms. you could end up with a resistant infection then you will really be in hell.



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Sadly Arrowind09 is no longer here. But here's the latest update, and its a return to.......

last year my left ear had a terrible and painful infection, which was treated by Ear Specialist Nurses. Right ear infection went after visiting them. They told me that anti-biotics would not treat an ear infection - never knew that, they applied an internal anti-biotic dressing.

AND now my right ear has an infection! The only time I had trouble with my ears was around age 6 - 8, when I would get regular boils in my ears. So for 44 yrs I've been free of ear problems - apart from getting my ears syringed regularly due to excessive wax.

I will be trying the following for this infection:-

I Cup Virgin Olive Oil
Clove of Garlic.

Put Olive oil in a pan and heat gently, add crushed garlic. Heat for 20 mins. Then pour through a sieve into a suitable container. Apply 3 times a day.

Will also put Hyd Peroxide drops in 2 times a day in between the Olive Oil/Garlic treatments.

I also have a chest infection. Occasionally I cough up phlegm, but its hard to cough it up. Sometimes when I blow my nose the discharge is green. But on both counts its a struggle to produce anything. I do feel chesty but am not wheezing or struggling to breath.

Q: Do you think their is a connection ?

Also - any suggestions ?

Any help MOST appreciated!
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Old 09-25-2012, 07:15 AM
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The reason that your tooth pain returns after you stop the CS is because it has not cured the infection. MMS may be a better choice. You should not need to keep on an antimicrobial forever. You may also need to do something to keep inflammation down and serrapeptase may help with that.. 80,000 IU twice a day.

You could also consider seeing an ozone therapist. They do have them in the UK. Some ozone in the ears could do you wonders as it will inflitrate your whole head, help with your sinus, your respiratory etc. But MMS is the low cost way, done diligently for a period of time. this is the page that has all the mms protocols and they probably developed new ways of taking it since you used it a couple of years ago. Lower dosages more frequently through the day. Look for protocol 1000+ on this page with the DMSO that will help it to get into the bone areas. You can also apply the mms and dmso topically over the acute areas of infection and dmso can be used in a mouth rinse also. But you really need the mms systemically for you are under duress systemically.
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If you have an underlaying condition that makes you prone to infection, (ie parasites) you may require continual mantinence with MMS or ozone treatments... or perhaps even colloidal silver. I think cs fails some people because it is not used correctly. I knew of a woman who used cs for a severe infection but could not cure it with one quart a day.. but it did help. Only after she did CS by IV did she cure. Thats a lot of time and money. MMS is more efficient.

DMSO : https://www.amazon.com/DMSO-Liquid-Un.../dp/B000K78Z96
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last week I had three teeth extracted at the dental hospital, and as luck would have it I had another infected tooth flare up before hand! Anyway the teeth are out and I am treating the latest infection with CS, I am also taking Serrepatese daily, I am also taking a multi vitamin.

I haven't had a cold/flu for 9yrs however today I have felt really poorly! Mucus, headaches and temperature and blocked nose!
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