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Old 06-14-2012, 06:18 PM
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Lightbulb Prostatitis effects antibiotics had for you

Did one antibiotic make your symptoms worse ? Talk about it.
Did one antibiotic make a certain burning sensation go away talk about it ?
Talk about the antibiotics you were prescribed and if they helped any symptom or made them worse , also if any adverse reactions occurred such as joint pain etc while on antibiotics talk about it. Please include antibiotic names, dosages and length taken.

The point of this thread is to see what effects antibiotics had on prostatitis sufferers and if they helped , hurt or did neither for the sufferer.
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Old 06-14-2012, 06:32 PM
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I will list what I have taken and what effects good or bad they gave me. in no specific order

Rocephin 250 mg one shot, killed/knocked about 50 % half of the prostatitis I have out,prostatitis was very weak during this time, but symptoms were later made a hundred times worse by steroids (prednisone)


ciprofloxacin - 28 days killed what felt like a bladder infection, knocked out stabbing penis pains, stabbing pelvic pain, urinating on myself. but did not touch other symptoms

levaquin 1 pill 500mg - 3 weeks - sore joints and stiff sore fingers, makes symptoms worse


cephalexin - 3 weeks - while on the drug erection came back, low back pain down, ejaculation stopped burning , orgasm returned, and could eat food that normally made the symptoms worse, also during this time I could not ejaculate as only one drop came out of penis and it hurt so bad I would cry cephalexin - let the ejaculation come back normal and no more blockage. once medication was stopped all symptoms returned except I could ejaculate in normal amounts still. drug no longer works

Avelox - nothing good nor bad or any effect at all

Augmentin - seemed to cool off urine and ejaculation but that was it

Trimethoprim - allowed me to be able to sit down on hard surfaces anal pain was pretty much gone, was the only effect it had. took 6 weeks, once drug was stopped symptoms came right back in 4 or 5 days, now trimethoprim no longer works for me.

Doxcycline - makes symptoms worse

erythromycin - makes symptoms worse

flagyl - makes symptoms worse

teteracycline - cools off burning in urine

ampicillin oral pills - made me sick to my stomach

ceftin - makes symptoms worse, anal pain worse, and makes urine burn more than usual

nitrofurantoin - nothing

rocephin 1,000 mg shot one - knocked teeny tiny bit of mine out. then failed when it was tried again later
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HarryCrumb, you seem to have tried all available antibiotics on the market for the prostatitis condition.

As quinolones (cipro and levo) are predominantely prescribed for bacterial prostatitis, would you say that they helped you ? Would a second quinolone therapy for your case resolve your problems ? What do you think after all those antibiotics ...Thanks
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HarryCrumb, you seem to have tried all available antibiotics on the market for the prostatitis condition.

As quinolones (cipro and levo) are predominantely prescribed for bacterial prostatitis, would you say that they helped you ? Would a second quinolone therapy for your case resolve your problems ? What do you think after all those antibiotics ...Thanks
Levaquin was a waste of time it just made the pain worse. ciprofloxacin seems to work for a lot of people in the acute prostatitis phase, it had always worked for me in the past and for my dad that had prostatitis.
But once this thing became chronic the antibiotics haven't really done much. some of the antibiotics would weaken symptoms but once the drug was stopped symptoms returned. only drug that ever killed anything for me was a shot, but then the shot stopped working after that.

Also I have tons of foam in my urine ....I have occasionally asked people to come and look in the toilet after I finished urinating, to which I get a response like " why did you pour all that soap in the toilet", to which I respond that ain't no soap.

what do I think after all those antibiotics ? I think my god look at all those drugs I took and they ultimately didn't amount to crap. I have been wanting to try different shots, an Iv and no one will let me have one. They just say here you go take this pill instead.
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Sorry to hear that HarryCrumb.

So what you are esentially saying is that antibiotics are not helping you anymore once prostatitis becomes chronic (lasts more than 6 months).
So what are you doing now and how do you battle this deliberating condition ?

I am also a little desperate sometimes, thinking of taking another a round of ATB (cipro), but now as i am also having it for 8 months, i doubt that ATBs may be of any help.
I would rather stay with my natural therapy outlined above. There is no other choice.
I dont wanna end going to a surgery or anything close to this.
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Sorry to hear that HarryCrumb.

So what you are esentially saying is that antibiotics are not helping you anymore once prostatitis becomes chronic (lasts more than 6 months).
So what are you doing now and how do you battle this deliberating condition ?

I am also a little desperate sometimes, thinking of taking another a round of ATB (cipro), but now as i am also having it for 8 months, i doubt that ATBs may be of any help.
I would rather stay with my natural therapy outlined above. There is no other choice.
I dont wanna end going to a surgery or anything close to this.
Yeah pretty much, I have read on many medical websites that the acute prostatitis is easily cured but the chronic version (chronic prostatitis) is almost impossible to get rid of. I have also read the statistics that only 35% of men with chronic prostatitis are ever cured, I have read that from a few different websites. I have also seen medical data of many men who have prostatitis and the infection is found and the correct antibiotic is prescribed and it still can't kill the bacteria off in the prostate.

there are a couple of reasons why . lets say that we have an individual who has chronic prostatitis and lets say it is caused by some bacteria lets say for example ecoli . the following will be reasons why antibiotics can not stop the prostatitis

1. An abscess in the prostate, some times the infection can be so bad in the prostate from all the white blood cells(pus) fighting the infection that an abscess forms which is a huge collection of dead pus( white blood cells)
this pus ends up forming a barrier that ultimately stops antibiotics from touching the infection. This abscess must then be drained by a needle. And the only way you can even know if you have one of these is to have a trans rectal ultrasound.

2. calcification, I don't know that much about calcification, but a urologist online basically told me many people have calcification in their prostate and if you have an infection the bacteria can hide in and beneath the calcification (stones) in the prostate. And if this happens it can be very difficult to drive the bacteria out of them.

3. biofilm - when an infection goes chronic you will have biofilm which is a gelatin like substance bacteria makes, which makes the bacteria up to 1,000 X resistant to antibiotics. Thing is with biofilm it takes such a huge concentration of antibiotics to kill it, that killing this type of an infection with oral antibiotics is next to impossible. shots, IV, and direct injections of antibiotic shots into the prostate will more than likely be needed for this.

4. Acini - The prostate is made up of tiny sacs called acini. bacteria can become lodged in the acini sacs and if they get lodged and trapped in one of these that area of the acini will swell shut (prostate won't swell up, just acini swell shut) and when this acini swells shut it causes the bacteria not to shed or show up in prostate fluid and this is one of the reasons men with prostatitis always have negative tests for bacteria. Some men claim that prostate massages can open up the clogged swollen shut acini sac where the bacteria is trapped. and once it is opened the antibiotics can then penetrate. A venus fly trap comes to mind, watch the video below with the idea that the fly is bacteria and the acini of the prostate is the fly trap and you will get how this works.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veMvxMGHZzo


As you can see above prostatitis can be very complicated, that is why most urologists as soon as you come in the door and say prostatitis they say whatever they can to get you out of their clinic and hope that you don't come back. urologists hate messing with prostatitis because half of the time there is nothing they can really do for the patient accept throw some antibiotics at it.

If you can find someone who can give you a real good prostate massage 3 times a week is the place to start, most urologists are against prostate massages, it is very hard to find one who will do this or mess with a patient with prostatitis.
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Self massage with prostate massager (Aerola) is possible.

What is left more is apparently AUTOVACCINE as explaied below. I shall give it a try !
AUTOVACCINES interesting experinece - seems worth a try for sure.....

https://prostatitis.ning.com/forum/to...age=2#comments

It is a live changing condition with symptoms persisting and waning. But there are also days when i feel very good - 100 % healthy.
Went for a semen culture again and this time - Enterococus faecalis in it ! I felt miserable for the results and started considering a ATB again - this time i am wondering between CIPRO-AUGMENTIN-NITROFURANTOIN or skip ATBs all together and start with SILVER WATER and supplements...
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Self massage with prostate massager (Aerola) is possible.

What is left more is apparently AUTOVACCINE as explaied below. I shall give it a try !
AUTOVACCINES interesting experinece - seems worth a try for sure.....

https://prostatitis.ning.com/forum/to...age=2#comments

It is a live changing condition with symptoms persisting and waning. But there are also days when i feel very good - 100 % healthy.
Went for a semen culture again and this time - Enterococus faecalis in it ! I felt miserable for the results and started considering a ATB again - this time i am wondering between CIPRO-AUGMENTIN-NITROFURANTOIN or skip ATBs all together and start with SILVER WATER and supplements...
Aerola prostate massager ??? I googled it and it's not pulling anything up named Aerola
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Is this the first time you had a positive culture..Jonhny if so how many have you taken
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Sorry, about that. This is where you can look for a tool like that.

https://www.prostate-massage-and-health.com/health.html

It is called i think...Aneros helix
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Sorry, about that. This is where you can look for a tool like that.

https://www.prostate-massage-and-health.com/health.html

It is called i think...Aneros helix
yeah, I've heard of the aneros, I have read around 200 reviews from various websites on the aneros and almost all of the people accept for a few here and there say that no matter how hard they tried they can't get the aneros to work, some people reported that they had used the aneros for up to 1 hour and can't produce any prostate fluid. the website link you posted is the website where the guy claims you can use a drum stick to massage the prostate and the fluid will come out of the prostate very quickly, I have tried the drum stick and it doesn't work. I don't think any of these devices work to be honest, even though I am still keeping an eye out for one that actually does work.
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I have to say - I haven't posted here in a while but came back for another issue and figured I'd give an update.

Anyhow, thankfully I can pretty much say that I am a cured man.

My suggestions still stand - you need to try antibiotics at first and give it some time. In my case, I believe the antibiotics did not help me. The Cipro made me feel a little better but I think that's just the anti-inflammatory activity from the drug itself.

I believe you should treat for everything. Start with Antibiotics and see if you feel any better, as well as natural remedies (allicin, quercetin, bromelain, anti-inflammatories - etc.). DEFINITELY go see a pelvic floor physical therapist! Not just any physical therapist - one that specializes in pelvic floor problems. I believe that was one of the best things I did. I went twice a week for months then once a week then every other week and now I no longer go. For all those wondering what a specialized pelvic floor therapist will do - things like giving you advice, a stretch regimen, advice on what to eat, explain to you what's going on down there, give you certain massages that you can't get from anyone else all specific to that area, as well as anal/prostate massages (they aren't fun but a must imo).

Next, you need to watch what you eat and drink which is the HARDEST part. Little to no caffeine, little to no alcohol. Go on a diet that is somewhat indicative of a fungal/candida diet. Watch the processed foods, white grains, sugar, etc etc.

See within the first few months of my agonizing pain I kept trying to guess......."It must be an infection! No, maybe it's a fungus problem, maybe it's a nerve?" My therapist seems to think it's a nerve issue (you can look up Pudendal Nerve Entrapment or Pudendal Neuralgia - symptoms are almost identical to Chronic Prostatitis and it's rarely mentioned here). But I don't know so I treated for everything.

If anyone has any question please post or send me a private message. I would be glad to give my thoughts - I know how bad it is -- it consumes every minute of your life.
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