So you've basically discovered your body is disease-free by not suffering any reaction going so fast to 15 drops. That's great. Many people are walking around with bad cells and they are clueless. Thank you for your post.

Diseases can be caused by emotional issues or emotional issues can result from disease. This proves out in homeopathy. Eczema is most definitely a stress issue, but most often is caused by the stress of an allergen.

I think psoriasis is caused by a fungus, and my long history of antibiotic use is likely culpable. My husband took antibiotics and a steroid injection for a bad chest cold. Two days later he was broken out in psoriasis all over. We found out that the steroid had a reputation for causing psoriasis. We cured it with a topical homeopathic cream.

Many things cause disease. I do not think that emotions are always at cause. Immune function is a complicated matter and there are many impimgements on health, emotions being only one of them. MHO of course.

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I have always been liberal with activator, probably using as much as 10 to 1 most of the time. Last night I took my 15+ (sometimes it squirts instead of drops) MMS with lemon juice last night, slept fine, and woke up feeling my normal perky self.

So I decided to go pick some key limes and found a large one that I decided to squeeze into my morning 15+ drops of MMS. This large lime was even more juice than the two limes I had squeezed a couple evenings ago when I reported a very strong and even corrosive chlorine taste.

Well, about 3-4 hours later my GI tract was squishing, and I filled up the pot, something I hadn't done before. Enough of that description... I feel fine now a while later.

My point is that more activator seems to have made stronger chlorine dioxide solutions both times I used excessive amounts of fresh squeezed lime juice, assuming my body's reaction IS the true measure of effectiveness--which is what we all seem to go by per Jim's experience. (Is the reaction really all due to flushing the system of bad stuff??)

On that assumption, I am going to use 3-4 times the activator from now on, and might try it on only 10 drops next time to see if I still have the same reaction. I'll also try to see if using 3-4 times the activator makes any difference whether it is lemon or lime juice. Why waste MMS??

Has anyone else just increased activator way above the recommended amount and compared results? (I don't think it matters, but I just add a couple ounces of water (not juice) to the activated solution after the 3 minutes.)

I poured my water in the drops forgetting to use an activator weeks ago but not wanting to waste the drops, drank it down. It upset my stomach.

I am still working my way up - tonight will see the first 15 drop dose. I have never been meticulous in counting the activator drops, so there have often been more than - but never less than - the prescribed 5-1 ratio.
Thaks for the information. I will compare results and report back. I can't honestly say I have noticed any reaction yet. On some days I felt slightly queasy, but mostly no effect.
D often feels like that or has abdominal pains for a short time, or feels unwell in a non-specific way.

Hi Baby, I haven't ever tried non-activated MMS solution, but I would have thought that it would have little to no affect on someone since significantly less chlorine dioxide can be formed with stomach acid alone. Maybe you have a very sensitive system. --Corpus

Hi Xania,

I have never used a dropper to add the activator. I just look at the bottom of the juice glass since 15+ drops will just about cover the complete bottom, and then pour either lemon juice concentrate or fresh squeezed lime on top up to about 1/4" off the bottom where a recessed glass pattern ends--it's about a 10-1 ratio I guess.

So I was surprised to observe a greater body reaction when I had covered the 15+ drops with about a 1/2" of lime juice as I had assumed that recommended 5-1 ratio would have already been at the maximum chlorine dioxide yield that could be achieved. Now I think using a lot more activator than recommended will make the solution stronger, though 20-1 might already exceed the most that can be possibly be generated. More lemon or lime juice activator adds flavor for those of us that then top off their activated gulp with water.

I look forward to hear if you or anyone else also gets a stronger reaction by only increasing the activator ratio.

--Corpus

Hey - hold on a minute, corpus! That is a lot of fresh lime juice in one go!
How would your gut have reacted to the same amount of lime juice, without the MMS ? Just trying to be objective!

I read that up to six drops use 1/4 tsp. activator and six drops and above 1/2 tsp. I've been looking for the reference if anyone finds it. The last thing I want to do is count drops of activator.

Baby, I work it out this way

1 ml = 30 drops. (rough guide. it depends on size of dropper, but it's a handy rule of thumb)
1 teaspoon = 5 mls = 150 drops.

So a quarter teaspoon is 45 drops. You could use up to 9 drops of MMS with a quarter teaspoon of activator.

Hi Xania,

OBJECTIVITY!!! I love it!! Good question!

It is my habit to squeeze 2-3 key limes (which are smaller than regular limes) in my ice tea that I usually drink with lunch every day. Sometimes I just squeeze either fresh key limes or a large fresh lemon in a large glass filled with ice and add water. I have NEVER had any reaction to larger amounts of fresh squeezed citrus juice!

I've even been known to eat a combination of 6-8 tangeloes, oranges, and/or grapefruit for breakfast each morning when visiting my dad when the fruit is ripe on the trees. No problema!!

Glad you asked! Thanks!

--Corpus

OK!

It is certainly the addition of MMS, in that case.
Heavens, you aare absolutely full of Vitamin C, aren't you? I have no idea what a tangeloe is - they don't grow around here, anyway! We are 50 degrees North - you must be a lot further south.

I just got out a quarter teaspoon and filled my juice glass up to the spot I assumed was about a 10-1 ratio. Well, it took SIX quarter teaspoons!

[Quoting Jim's book 2, "A "standard" eye dropper will create drops 2/3 the size of the drops that drop from the standard MMS bottle."]

The MMS drops are bigger (do to larger aperture on the nozzle) than "standard" drops, so lets say that 15 MMS drops equal 25 standard drops. I was never using less than 6 quarter teaspoons, x 45 drops = 270 drops
270 / 25 = over 10, that's TEN TIMES activator to MMS was the minimum I have always used, a 10-1 ratio.

So the two times when I used about twice as much lime juice activator, I had close to a 20-1 ratio or about 4 times the minimum recommended activator--and it still was stronger based upon taste and GI results.

--Corpus

I was born up north, but south of the 48th parallel. I have been to Canada many times in the summer, but I never even venture back to where I was born in the winter. My dad lives in Florida, and I live in South Texas (a big state in case no Texan ever told you that).

I eat as much raw and fresh food as I can. I have three key limes squeezed into the ice tea I am now drinking with my ....oops cold pizza (gotta live a little too ya know).

--Corpus

[Xania, I accidentally first posted this to the "personal stories" thread.]

Last night I mixed my 15 drops (more careful not to squirt) MMS with fresh squeezed key lime juice using the 4x higher 20-1 activator ratio. The chlorine taste was very strong as before. I also forgot to mention that each time I used the 20-1 lime juice ratio, I can almost feel sparks in my metal fillings which would seem to indicate greater acidity than when I have used vinegar, lemon juice, or lower amounts of lime juice with ~15 drops. Anyway, went to bed and woke up with no side affects.

This morning I made my empty stomach batch of 15 drops MMS with a 20-1 ratio of lemon juice. I might add, this is lemon juice concentrate, a generic "Real Lemon Juice" that I keep in the refrigerator and hence is cold when I add it to the drops. SO, I decided to double the activator time to 6 minutes instead of at least 3 just to make sure I was giving a fair test of lemon juice.

Though the 20-1 cold lemon juice with 6 minutes activation time tasted stronger than my previous uses of 10-1 cold lemon juice with 3 minute activation time, it still didn't quite feel like my fillings were being etched away as with the large amounts fresh squeezed key lime juice.

So now a couple hours later, I don't feel any side effects coming on. Perhaps a couple of those squirts of MMS yesterday morning should have been counted as more than one drop, and 15+ was more like 20 drops??

Conclusions:

1. Using up to FOUR TIMES more than the recommended minimum 5-1 ratio of activator helps to more completely activate and form maximum chlorine dioxide (based upon taste, not actual measurement which I can't do).

2. Doubling the minimum activation time from 3 minutes to 6 minutes especially when using refrigerated activator also makes more complete activation.

3. Fresh key lime juice at 20-1 ratios is a slightly better activator than cold concentrated lemon juice at 20-1 ratios activated for 6 minutes.

Unknown: How does either 20-1 fresh key lime juice or concentrated lemon juice compare to citric acid in both 5-1 and 20-1 ratios??

If I ever buy citirc acid, I will do the taste test comparison. I can't accept the statement that citric acid activator is 10 times better in absolute terms. It might be better when only using 5-1 ratios and comparing to 5% vinegar, but I doubt it is any better than the 20-1 key lime juice or 20-1 cold concentrated lemon juice when given double time to activate.

Would love to get some actual instrument measured chlorine dioxide data with these various solutions if someone was so inclined.

Hope everyone isn't sick of hearing from me yet (a sickness MMS can't cure), but I think I played with activation efficiency as much as I can without instrumentation. So, since I hardly ever get sick, I might never know if the stuff really works from personal experience.

I do hope to hear credible detailed accounts from others of both successes and failures when using MMS, and I hope for controlled test environments and further objective testing on various conditions becomes widespread.