How much cayenne pepper and alphalpha do I need to affectively stop internal bleeding?

Hi Penny, welcome to the forum! Internal bleeding is very serious, what kind are you having, what are the symptoms?

__________________
"We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." ~Immanual Kant~

NatMedTalk and Beyond
PetForums

Thankyou
Well I did go to the doctor but I think I was missdiagnosed... and the medication he gave me made it worse. Not only that but I had to wait over a month for my appointment, and scheduling another would probably have a similar wait.

I'm 18, but I abruptly started having joint pain and severe, frequent joint popping, along with issues.. regarding my uh... "bowel movements". Since I started taking this medicine (naproxen... he prescribed 500mg twice a day which was way too much... I decided to just trust at first but soon started cutting the pills in half and instead taking 250mg every 12 hours) my stool has been far more bloody than before and I have pain in my lower stomach area, and sometimes near my rib cage too.

Penny, you really need to give us more information. What diagnosis did he give you?
Internal bleeding can mean a lot of different things...where are you seeing the blood from? What color is it? Blackish or bright red?

Off hand it sounds like stomach ulcers but we can't know nor recommend anything unless you tell us more.

I don't understand why he would just give you naproxin and disregard the bleeding... naproxin is for arthritic types of conditions... did he do any other tests? I would see a different doctor and soon.

__________________

Naproxen is the generic name for Naprosen, and I'm sure he prescribed this medication for your joint issues.

I would not continue taking Naproxen becuse of the warnings and side-effects.

* peptic ulcers and bleeding can occur without warning
* it may prolong bleeding time and shouldn't be taken by those on blood thinners
* abdominal pain
* abdominal bleeding
* liver and kidney problems

So, if you were already having issues with blood in your bowel movements whether from internal hemorrhoids, or as Arrow suggested, ulcers...this drug is only making things worse.

There are more natural options for the joint pain like glucosamine, chondroitin and omega 3 fish oil.

All I really knew about when I went to the doctor was the joint pain/popping. He pretty much thought it was nothing but he gave me the anti-inflammatories. I was having some other very minor problems that I thought were unrelated and nothing to be worried about.
After taking naproxen I've seen a lot of bright red blood whenever I go number two.. before it was only a little bit every now and then (and diarrhea).
They did a few x-rays on my shoulder (where the pain was the worst) and that's it. In his defense, I didn't really know about the bleeding because it wasn't bad enough until I took all that naproxen... but from what I read internal bleeding can cause joint inflammation.

I came to the same conclusion. I stopped taking the Naproxen completely a few days ago.
For months I have tried upping my dietary intake of omega 3 and glutamine/glucose, but I've always gotten a lot of both of those in my diet anyway. I know a lot about dietetics, so I spent a long time trying to find a nutritional solution but none of that was helping.
A couple weeks ago I looked up natural remedies for internal bleeding, though I was still taking the Naproxen. I didn't go so far as to get phosphorus supplements; I'm hesitant to get any sort of metal supplemented as overload can have very adverse effects. I did, however, increase my dietary intake of phosphorus, drink alphalpha juice, and put cayenne pepper on my food.

I'm completely new to holistic medicine, but as you can imagine, I've had some bad experiences with doctors. If the pain doesn't stop within two days I'm definitely going to a hospital, but the wait to see the doctor is too long... plus I don't care to trust him with my health again.

edit: Since I'm so young I figured my body should still be able to make glucosamine from glucose and glutamine.. I actually did a lot of research on glucosamine and why our bodies stop producing it, and my understanding is that it's from cell mutation. I have a very natural diet so it's low in food mutagens, but I did a metal cleanse anyway.

Vitamin K2 and the herb Goldenseal are good for the treatment of internal bleeding.

https://www.natmedtalk.com/wiki/Vitamin_K
https://www.natmedtalk.com/wiki/Goldenseal

Did the doctor try to find out why you suddenly had such joint problems at such a young age? Do you have any problems with hemorrhoids, can this be the cause of the bleeding? Is it bright red in color?

Yes, bright red.
No he didn't try to find out why... he mostly just thought I was being silly and started going on about how his joints pop too and he actually likes it. I kept telling him that I was actually in pain.. so he gave me x-rays but they never even showed me the results and I assume there was no ligament injury or anything.
I don't know what could have caused me to have a hemorrhoid, but I guess it could be a possibility.

Thankyou I will try goldenseal.. I already eat spinach every day plus other various sources of vitamin K.

Also, do you think I should continue with the alphalpha and cayenne pepper?

Penny, I don't see any reason not to keep on taking those herbs. Alfalfa is high in vitamin K, vitamin B12 and fiber which is good.

Both Alfalfa and Cayenne are used as treatments for hemorrhage, ulcers and nosebleeds...along with an extensive list of other benefits.

Alright, thankyou. =)
I think the goldenseal was really good advice, so I'm definitely going to get some.

If you are having joint pain but there is no damage to the joints it is a possibility that you are developing Rheumatoid arthritis, and no, you are not too young to do so. A blood test will tell you.

I have been fighting it for many years and have found treatments that work. I have never taken their dangerous drugs. The things that I have found that work you can read about on these two links..

In reality you are too young for osteoarthritis which is what the glucosamine is most helpful for. Read these links. If you find out that you have RA, thank them kindly for the diagnosis and walk out the door and never return. The drugs that they want to give you are very dangerous, and they will ruin your life and they really don't stop the progression well at all and they screw up your immune system. My aunt has been on them for years and it has made her look like a blimp. She didn't start out that way. The drugs did it to her... to many steroids... and newer drugs are also very dangerous and I feel some of them should have black box warnings.

Read the following two articles and get a little book by Dr Donsbach called "Arthritis" you can probably find it on Amazon or perhaps at his site www.letstalkhealth.com

https://www.healthsalon.org/381/cetyl-myristoleate-for-arthritis-cmo-rheumatoid-arthritis/

https://www.healthsalon.org/392/testimonials-on-arthritis-and-serrapeptase/
for serrapeptase purchase Doctors Best from www.iherb.com
further info on serrapeptase is at www.serrapeptase.info

You really need to figure out why you are bleeding.. This is not something to take lightly. If its hemorrhoids its no big deal but usually hemorrhoids are painful and it seems like you would know but sometimes internal hemorrhoids are not felt. The naproxin has a reputation for causing bleeding but it is not so likely in someone your age nor in someone who has been taking it for such a short time.

Your doctor is a jerk. Find another one.

I don't know, I only have one of the symptoms for rheumatoid arthritis. If it's not internal bleeding them I'll go ahead and get a blood test done.

And it's a military doctor, so we have to pay for the insurance regardless of whether or not we use it (they take it right out of my husband's paycheck).

Bright blood normally indicates hemorrhoids. White oak bark works for me. https://www.jamaicaobserver.com/weste...-02-10_7425576

It also stops bleeding from kidney stones, even excessive menstrual flow. Popular for its astringent qualities, White Oak Bark encourages tissue proteins to tighten, thus strengthening vascular walls. The oak tannin binds liquids, absorbs toxins, and soothes inflamed tissues. The inhabitation of intestinal secretions may also help to resolve diarrhea.

Easy to find at your favorite on-line health vendor.

__________________
-
- Jim
"A good listener is not only popular everywhere, but after a while he gets to know something." �Wilson Mizner