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been reading about "structured" water, "vortex" water, and many others.just bought a R.O.[reverse osmosis] filter system. i was planning to install it in my water system, but after reading about the benefits of structured water , i'm confused..as always, there is so much contradicting info out there, it's very hard to come up with the truth. anybody out there that can give me some first hand experience and advise..i'm open for suggestions..

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I am a believer in structured water and if you to to www.photonicwater.com you can view some very interesting videos. I like this product because it is not a magnet based device but works with vortex energy. Magnets eventually wear out. This device will never ever wear out.

I say believe and not know becasue I have not experienced it first hand. I plan on installing a photonic water device in our new house currently under construction. It will be a whole house unit. It comes with a 90 day money back guarantee. I am going to use it in place of a water softener.

Call the company with your questions... I had questions about how it can help with fluroide and other chemicals. The explained that it makes these chemicals so the body will not assimilate them.. They just pass through.

Reverse osmosis water always seemed very dead to me.

also do a search here on this site for structured water. We have a few posts on it.
We do have nay sayers here on the topic.. When I trail it I will let you all know how it goes.. the water here certainly has some problems and if this thing works I will be able to see its effects pretty quick.

I told a woman with extreme life long eczema about this and she got the table top hand held unit. She says her ezcema is now gone after drinking the water for several weeks.
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As a chemist, I am suppose to say structured water is a myth. However, as a chemist so is homeopathy, except for one single issue. It works.
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i'd just like to see some real science from someone who's not trying to sell me something.
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If you want to see the effect of the alteration of the the structure of water in practice(in this case by magnetism)in the agricultural field:


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still the same thing...everything i read,praising "structured water, is trying to sell me something..i've been online now for the last week reading all i can find and everything i read comes down to the same point..BUY THIS! where is a non biased article with some real science?
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I use a two stage carbon based filter "aquasana" device. Change it every 6 months. It's rated to output 400 gallons.
I am very satisfied with the water it outputs. We don't have fluoride
added here so we are lucky.
I also add a few drops / Liter of Concentrace to the water just to balance out the minerals.
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I heard about structured water, and it sounded good. I read somewhere how to make a simple vortex device.

I took two 2-liter pop bottles, connected them with a very short section of plastic tubing, and filled one bottle with water. Then I spin the bottle on top, creating a vortex in the water, and invert both bottles. The spinning water in the top bottle slowly falls down into the bottom bottle. I repeat the process a few times.

Now - is this as effective as mechanical or magnetic spinners? I don't know. A vortex is a vortex is a vortex, right? Is the resulting water healthier? I can't tell. Its certainly not any worse.

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I know that sounds radical, but here's the truth: NO ONE who's not selling a device or a method will ever be able to present any unbiased scientific evidence. ALL the scientists you see on these videos are either part of the organization selling the device, or they are paid by manufacturers or sellers of device.
For those of you frothing at the mouth now, saying I'm just a nay-sayer or a skeptic, realize this: I was raised by a scientist, study science all the time, and am, naturally, a skeptic. If you are not, you'll believe anything.
Pure science requires a few things to be truly pure science:
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  • investigation without expectation.
    • expectation leads to falsification of data, even if unintentional.
  • systematic observation of natural phenomena solely for the discovery of unknown laws relating to facts
All this means that without a budget to study the "phenomenon" of structured water, no scientist is going to study it. And no one without a monetary interest is going to pay a scientist to do it.

So... are you wealthy and want the truth?
  1. Commission a scientist to study "structured" water, and whatever you do, don't let him/her know what your expectations are.
  2. Make sure you're not selling one of these machines, FIRST.
  3. Let the world know the truth.
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wow case dude great answer...
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Case42, you said it like it is!, ahhhh....the truth...so refreshing!!

Raja, I myself have been trying to figure out just good water, I find tap water junk!, I have no dog in this fight, just after the truth and good water. I have a RO unit, the water is pretty pure, meaning it doesn't have bad or good in it, the PH is around 6, very acidic water but it doesn't give me heartburn, lately I have been adding minerals back into my RO water. I have recently discovered the ionizers, and maybe they can give you good water as recommended in a book I have been reading...there we go again...except this MD doesn't seem to have a dog in the fight either, you may want to check out the book...Healing is voltage by Jerry Terrant, MD, he talks more about water in this book than any MD I have ever read.
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I will tell you this.. ive been watching the structured water issue for a while now as I am going to purchase a structured water device for my home and it is not a low cost investment, but is intended to be in place of a water softener.

Actually I find the reports in the Agricultural industry most convincing. These large farms are not going to repeatedly purchase expensive devices to put on their water lines if it is not enhancing their bottom line... and that line is profits from increased production.

And there are some really huge huge farms using this technology in the USA in California, both the magnetic structuring devices as well as the vortex devices.

I am considering the vortex device because they do not wear out. In the others the magnets eventually loose their magnetism and have to be replaced. The vortex devices are newer. Yet large agricultural farms do replace the magnetic devices to keep crop yield up.

On a different note, a woman came to me about 2 years ago to seek help for her eczema. She had had it since childhood and was quite severe. She had tried already all the different kinds of treatments that I could think of. So we discussed structured water and she decided to try the table top unit from www.photonicwater.com She wrote back to me weeks later and told me that her eczema is gone. This is not the only healing story associated with structured water.

As I said I will report on how the structured water device works when I get it into my home.. but that will not be till sometime next fall. We get a lot of calcium deposits from our well water. I will be looking to see that disappear in short order.
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The only thing I could envission the so called vortex doing is oxigenating the water, I don't really know what is meant by "structured water", "vortex water" et cetera.

Also, I have read some advocates for "urotherapy", "Urine Therapy", "Uropathy" ... saying that the percentage of water present in urine is "structured water". ' don't really know exactly how this is relevant to the thread but I thought it would be worth mentioning.
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The only thing I could envission the so called vortex doing is oxigenating the water, I don't really know what is meant by "structured water", "vortex water" et cetera.

Also, I have read some advocates for "urotherapy", "Urine Therapy", "Uropathy" ... saying that the percentage of water present in urine is "structured water". ' don't really know exactly how this is relevant to the thread but I thought it would be worth mentioning.

Homeopathy (which has been proven to work in double blind studies) is related to "structured water". I don't buy it (I buy homeopathy works, but structured water is a scam).
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Urnine therapy does contain structured water as well as structured minerals.. This is why urine therapy is healing for some people. It is very homeopathic.

Seems we will be placing our structured water device around next November. I will be able to report on its effects on our water shortly after that. It comes with a 90 day return guarantee so I don't have anything to worry about. I will know within 3 weeks if it does what it claims.
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