ok check it out and give me some words of comfort...or anything really,i mean will i be making vitamin C or just something that slightly resembles vitamin c..??
Ascorbic acid is vitamin C, however, it is lab made, which means it is synthetic, and does not contain the "outer rings" that are present in fruit and vegetables. This is why I always recommend taking quercetin with the ascorbic acid.
Quercetin is a bioflavonoid that is made from citrus fruit, and thus contains all the cofactors that are missing from the synthetic C.
Normally I don't suggest taking synthetic vitamins, however, we know that synthetic vitamin C, in high dose, will cure cancer. After all, that isn't fruit juice in the I.V. bag.
Supplements should be used in addition to, not instead of, a proper diet. Having said that, the soil is nearly depleated of minerals and nutrients, therefor taking supplements is the only way to aquire optimal health.
It is not possible to eat 15000 mg of vitamin C per day from food.
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Ascorbic acid is vitamin C, however, it is lab made, which means it is synthetic, and does not contain the "outer rings" that are present in fruit and vegetables. This is why I always recommend taking quercetin with the ascorbic acid.
Quercetin is a bioflavonoid that is made from citrus fruit, and thus contains all the cofactors that are missing from the synthetic C.
Normally I don't suggest taking synthetic vitamins, however, we know that synthetic vitamin C, in high dose, will cure cancer. After all, that isn't fruit juice in the I.V. bag.
Supplements should be used in addition to, not instead of, a proper diet. Having said that, the soil is nearly depleated of minerals and nutrients, therefor taking supplements is the only way to aquire optimal health.
It is not possible to eat 15000 mg of vitamin C per day from food.
Synthetic vs natural. In college I was walking through the library and found a PDR from 1949. Lots of natural things: bioflavanoids for arterial integrity was one. Also there was belladona, powderized and standardized. Today they give atropine but it is a higher dose then the herbal powder. That is because there are cofactors in the herbs and natural extracts which increase the effect of the active component. White willow bark is much more effective than pure aspirin. Another classic example is digitalis. It use to be the foxglove plant ground up and standardized. When they switched to the pure chemical, they lost a side effect: extreme nausea! Too bad, because this was a good side effect because it let you know if you took too much. Also today you get pure levothyroxine, where it use to be ARMOUR THYROID which contained both T4 (levothyroxine) and T3. Although docs and big pharma will tell you there are no allergic reations with the pure chemical. Hey, cool, but the natural stuff worked better on 99 percent of the population. Also, I had a physical biochem class and the instructor was telling us about interferon: the crude extract had great results, the pure stuff does not.
It is not possible to eat 15000 mg of vitamin C per day from food.
So true. It sure would be nice to be able to use amla powder, kiwi fruit, acerola cherry, or rose hips. One would have to consume so very much though. Ascorbic acid has been studied and used in so many clinical trials successfully. Just remember vitamin C is unstable in heat and moisture. The shelf life is short.
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Id be a stuffed zombie if I had to eat enough food to get 15,000 mg of C daily. Even with organic well nurtured soil..
The thing is, in these days we are combating so many different issues from the environment and from previous drug use,, antibiotics, NSAIDS, vaccines, heavy metals, pcbs, and on and on... that higher dosages are required for many people just to maintain health... and then when you have a genetically linked disease or a disease from stress, such as the vericose vein problem I developed from doing years of 12 then 18 hour shifts on my feet high dosages are sometimes requried to get a significant physiological effect.
The main failure in vitamin c not effectively treating colds and flu is in the megar dosages taken. Bowel tolerance must be acheived in most cases to assure you that the highest dosages possible have been obtained, short of taking it my IV.
Hundreds and hundreds of studies have been done with vitamin c in the ascorbic acid form. It is reliable and now that you are creating the opporutnity to create very high blood levels for yourself you will have the best.
I don't know if quercetin can be added. You could try. I havent seen it and it may just not be all that necessary. Hopefully people will start playing with this type of administration more and be able to note differences.
I use a bioflavinoid product that ismade by a pharmaceutical company, they call it micronized rutin and heperiden.... I have not received the same results in products that are no so processed. It somehow makes it more bioavailable and useful to the body.
Some studies that I have read showed quercetin to be helpful at just 20mg 3x day.
As we are now seeing with lipsomal preparations of vitamin c, so much is in how the product is prepared.
I have read that curcumin is sometimes added to the lipsomal c.
hmm ok i will keep it simple for the beggining untill i become a bit more knowledgable and get some experience from making the liposomal vitamin C,after i made it a few times and mastered the art of making it,i can start experimenting and adding stuff and such...for the start i will keep it as simple as possible...
but i would like to make it just as its supposed to be made,do you think i could find a cheap cheap jewelry cleaner,so that i dont have to use a blender?
2. Esterified Vitamin C - what is this? is liposomal better or is it the same thing or what?
3. (Do a google on zinc and warts, you'll find an interesting Iranian study on megadosing on zinc and warts disappearing) - I have read a study somewhere sometime ago on zinc and warts,and thats why i started supplementing on zinc,i take it easy with it though bcuz i got the 50mg and its strong and not needed on a daily basis bcuz taking too much zinc can actually be harmfull at the end of the day...as far as i know... ''I found that I had an immediate reaction of nausea to taking zinc, I believe 50mg.'' ---- Ok i am surely taking 50mg and a week ago i had the same reaction as this guy and it was shortly after taking a pill of zinc,what does that mean?? the nausea went away 20-30 minutes later i remember...
4. ''I'm new to HPV, but I can tell you that it is possible to OD on vitamin C. It's not the same as like a calcium or iron OD, but it builds up in your system when in large quantities. It causes kidney stones. (I've been there, it is awful.)'' ---> he gets discredited a few posts after but..REALLY??? no right? tell me no
5. I've got five bucks that says the doctor that told you that was ancient ---> hahahaha o just had to post this,i love it
Taking any mineral on an empty stomach can make you nauseous. 50mg zinc should be the max. Even then, lay off of it for a couple of days per week. Zinc can be toxic at high doses.
Most stones are formed with calcium oxalate or uric acid.
Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) is broken down in the intestines into oxalates. In some individuals these oxalates can be absorbed increasing the risk of oxalate stones.
Ascorbic acid does help to dissolve phosphate stones.
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