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� Hello everyone my name is Roy and i am 31 years old. I tried to lose weight doing exercises last 6 month, but there is no effect. My metabolism is too low and it's very hard to lose even a little weight. Can you give me advice? What to do?
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Hi Roy, welcome to the forum. The deal is you have to exercise hard and frequent. Make sure you are doing something aerobic 5 times a week for 50 minues a shot and also do a weight circuit twice a week.
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Welcome Roy! I agree with Saved, also it helps to increase your daily water intake and cut back on any unhealthy fats in your diet. Less breads, etc. helps too. Building muscle helps burn fat and improves metabolism. Browse through the exercise and dieting forum for some more ideas.
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thanks guys, i'll doing the aerobic exercises and maybe will get the product that pamrey49 was talking about lipovon. Best regards!
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thanks guys, i'll doing the aerobic exercises and maybe will get the product that pamrey49 was talking about lipovon. Best regards!
That stuff is a total scam. Just get to working out frequently and hard, you will eventually lose weight.
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thanks guys, i'll doing the aerobic exercises and maybe will get the product that pamrey49 was talking about lipovon. Best regards!

I knew I have heard of that stuff. Just got off the phone with a friend who is a Biochem in Texas. Lipovon, not only does it not work, people have died from taking it and men have grown breasts (contaminated with estrogens). Stay away from it and just exercise.
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Ok i know this is a useless comment,and it SHOULD NOT NOT NOT be followed,but take it from a super skinny guy who has no weight related disease,not an anorexic or nothing like that,i dont really excersise and i eat normally...

Anyway the deal is:

1) Alcohol every day
2) Cigarettes every day
3) Cannabis EVERY DAY (like 10+ joints a day mixed with tobacco)
4) NOT sleeping right and enough
5) you can eat anything you want really but consuming cannabis in extreme ways will basically eventually make you instead of eating rolling a joint and smoking,so when the munchies come up,roll another jay
6) No vitamins (i never took back than)
7) Get exposed to the sun and SWEAT,or just find a way to SWEAT to extreme levels...
8) Coffee every day (use the cold ones in the tin you buy at your supermarket or any market depends from where you live)


You do all those things i mentioned to extreme levels,and its a pretty sure recepy to lose weight...
But im pretty sure its also a recepy to get cancer or something,i mean i lived like that for many many years and no cancer but i guess doing it for a lil while would make you lose weight...

Follow my advice and DONT do what i wrote above...be well and i hope you find a solution
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And a bit usefull comment,drop the sugar,drop the meat,eat veggies and fruits...

This is a general good health strategy you should use anyway...
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Roy, I suggest that you read two books, one is by Dr Atkins on his low carb diet and the other is by Drs Eades, (husband and wife) called Protein Power. In Protein Power they exaplain the glycemic index and just how typical american diets contribute to diabetes (which means weight gain frequently)... they also explain how to cure some cases of diabetes through diet alone. Diabetes and pre-diabetic conditions which typically have low metabolic rates can be reversed.

These books explain why you are not loosing weight. The diet is excellent and will require diet changes for you but ones that can be well tolerated for it allows for all the steaks and ribs you want.

What goes is the trash food like bread, pasta, potatoes and sugar and some high carb veggies like carrots, peas, beans and beets.
Beet greens are acceptable.

What you are left with are the supreme choices in diet... healthy veggies, protein souces like meat, fish and eggs, (sorry no dairy in the beginning) and moderate fruit like berries which are auto immune system boosters.. not the sweet stuff like banana and melons and pineapples which are loaded with sugars.

You have to understand some of the basic chemistry of weight loss as well as how your muscles and muscle mass increases boost your metabolism. Both books are available on Amazon used for cheap. Aerobics is fine and good for you but if you want to loose weight build muscle. This will turn you into a lean mean fat burning machine

As your muscle mass is developed you will be able to increase your carbs but probably not for the first 6 months or so, depending on how much weight there is too loose.
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And thats why,you should follow arrowwind's advice
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I would go as far as saying 60 percent is diet and the rest is exercise. Are you drinking soda diet or regular?

I also think it depends how you are working out. Lifting weights burns calories even while you sleep
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While I do understand how regular exercise is an extremely healthy option for everyone there are people like me who are unable to exercise and still need to maintain a healthy weight without having to rely on starvation to keep the calories (that they are unable to burn off through exercise) down.

What's important is understanding
WHY ARE WE HUNGRY
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WHAT ENABLES US TO BURN STORED CALORIES?

We have a built in system that enables us to switch from burning glucose to burning calories stored in fat but that requires the metabolic flexibility to switch from one to other fuel through the day and night.

The underlying problem with most healthy eating advice is that it destroys this metabolic flexibility by encouraging the use of those foods that are associated with food addiction and by encouraging frequent eating, 3 meals daily +snacks in between.
If you study the graph here

You will see that since the introduction and promotion of low calorie low fat foods the obesity epidemic went into overdrive.
Because people acted on that advice and tried not only to become more active (increased their appetite) but also eat fewer calories (less fat/fewer calories) they became nutrient deficient while consuming more calories (increased hunger) while not allowing their bodies to burn the stored calories.

The answer is to eat more natural saturated fats (butter coconut oil) that satisfy the appetite and reduce the need to snack (allowing more time to burn stored calories.

Some reasons why exercise may not translate into weight loss
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Does exercise promote weight loss? (No)
These should not be regarded as reasons not to exercise. There are MANY reasons why exercise is good for the heart, brain and generally healthy, it's just not the best answer for weight loss, appetite regulation or restoring metabolic flexibility.
This diet will do just that.
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Lifting weights burns calories even while you sleep
There are other ways of improving the way brown adipose tissue (BAT) regulates body temperature through the night (by burning calories)
The action of BAT depends on mitochondrial function and (apart from exercise) MELATONIN protects mitochondrial function, and better quality sleep promotes weight loss.
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In my previous post I mentioned the role of mitochondria in fat metabolism. For those who don't grasp the significance of that here is a full text reveiw paper.
The Role of Impaired Mitochondrial Lipid Oxidation in Obesity
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Obesity represents a disruption in balancing fuel intake with energy expenditure in favor of energy
conservation.

Adiposity is known to be carefully regulated and, over time, highly resistant to major changes, raising questions about how energy homoeostasis can become dysregulated in favor of fat accumulation.

In obesity, the excess lipid accumulation represents a surfeit of energy, but those who are obese often experience rapid fatigue and decreased physical endurance, reflecting an energy deficiency.

To develop an explanation for this apparent contradiction in energy homeostasis and the chronic overeating relative to energy used in obesity, a review of the literature was conducted.

The resulting model of obesity is based on a growing body of research
demonstrating that altered mitochondrial energy production, particularly in skeletal muscles, is a major anomaly capable of setting off a chain of metabolic events leading to obesity.

Alterations in skeletal muscle mitochondria distribution and their oxidative
and glycolytic energy capacities in obesity are described. The metabolic responses of obese and normal individuals to exercise are contrasted, and the
effects of weight loss on energy production are presented.

The effect of altered fat oxidation is considered in relation to energy regulation by the central nervous system and the development of major obesity comorbidities, including systemic inflammation, insulin resistance and diabetes, and cardiovascular disease.
Recommendations for clinical intervention and additional research are proposed based on the model presented of impaired mitochondrial function
in obesity.
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I agree that good, old fashioned diet and exercise is the way to go. If you keep that up you will meet your goals eventually!
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