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Old 06-02-2010, 02:15 AM
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Default Muscle twitching / Dry Mouth / Weak Digestion / short term memory problems (cipro?)

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Ive been dealing with prostatitis for the past year.. because of this, a Urologist prescribed Ciprofloxacin for 1 month.. so I took it for a month.. since then ive noticed some tightntess in my tendons and my knees seem to crack and pop more then they used to.

I didnt worry too much about that.. but lately (a few months after taking cipro) now i seem to be having short term memory problems aswell as dry skin and dry mouth, and muscle twitches/spasms occuring around my body..

Does this sound like side effects from the Cipro? Any way I can deal with this?

Does anyone else have experience dealing with / treating side effects of cipro?

Does the muscle twitches indicate real neurological damage? I dont have any pain, and they arent occuring all day long, but def pretty frequently.. and the weak short term memory and dry mouth are freaking me out.
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Cipro may cause swelling or tearing of tendons. This is a pretty well known risk with this class of antibiotic.

Dry mouth is another known side effect of the drug.

The other symptoms may or may not be related to side effects. Not all side effects are common, and certainly any particular individual can react in a very individual way to anything. They could be from dehydration, which seems to be a side effect, or destruction of a pathogen you may have.

You could try to up water intake and see if it helps any. I would probably use MMS instead of Cipro for this condition, but that is your choice.

Good Luck

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Old 06-02-2010, 12:07 PM
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Oh i know.. believe me I will never touch cipro again.. or any antibiotic for that matter (unless its a very last resort).

I wish my doctor hadnt prescribed it to me.. he did in such a nonchalant way too.. I was actually leaving his office, and he was like "oh wait, so no other doctors have given you antibiotics?" "no" "ok well lets put you on cipro for a month".. he did warn me about the possibility of achilles tendon rupture, but then said, "i doubt that will happen, I just have to tell you".. ofcourse he didnt mention the myriad of other potential/likely side effects.

Its hard to say whether these symptoms were caused by cipro or not.. I took it 4 montsh ago, and up until a few weeks ago, didnt notice anything other then some tendonitis. But just recently ive had weak short term memory, dry mouth/nose/skin, weak digestion, an allergic reaction, and muscle twitching in my leg/butt/stomach/back. This all seemed to start though after I had an allergic reaction.. I ate a turkey sandwich and my arms, elbows, and neck got red and hot for like 30 minutes.. since then ive had these symptoms.. but ive never had an allergic reaction in my life (that i know of) so thats out of the ordinary too.

Then again, ive heard it can take months for side effects to appear.. part of the reason they go under-reported.

Either way, I just wanna be 100% healthy and do what ever I need to do to mitigate any side effects of this terrible drug.
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How much water do you currently consume daily moxsum?
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Old 06-02-2010, 07:55 PM
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I consume a fair amount of water... when im at home I almost always have a glass that im sipping on..

Alot of these symptoms started though, after I worked out instensely for an hour and a half without drinking any water and my mouth got real dry.. but then i drank lots after.. then I had some other issues which caused me a lot of stress over the next few weeks.. then I had some kind of allergic reaction, then i had really bad dry mouth for a few days.. no amount of water made it better.. since then things improved slightly but in general my mouth is still more dry then normal. Ive also noticed some white stuff on the back of my tongue the past few days.

Im scared it could be diabetes.. I saw a chinese doc today and she said I should think about getting tested for it. but she also said it could just be my digestive system is messed up (liver/etc)..

I hope its not diabetes.. im thin and work out a lot, dont drink soda, or candy.. but i did eat a lot of fruit and pasta this year.. which I know is a lot of sugar.
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Here is a symptom checker for electrolyte imbalance. Try it. Your symptoms seem to indicate this to me. However, the use of that pharmaceutical makes it difficult to really determine and may only be part of the cause.

https://symptoms.wrongdiagnosis.com/c...-imbalance.htm
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Moxum,
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I feel compelled to agree with Dan's suggestion of trying MMS for your symtoms. I had all the same symtoms as you and more...(which you may also.) Doctors never found the cause. They called me "complicated." I had been prescribed anti biotics many times for pneumonia over the years. Dry mouth, insomnia, over all muscle pain they called Fibromyalgia. Poor digestion and elimination. Short term memory problems. Poor concentration. I was prescribed "medicine" for my symptoms with yes, many side effects. I was so discouraged.
Finally my blood was sent to the Mayo Clinic which inticated Rheumatoid Arthritis. I said to myself "but what causes the inflammation?"....the "arthritis?" I found one article on the internet that said "parasites."
Then I found MMS on the internet in my search for something that might help me.(cure parasites) I took the drops, and low and behold, I had parasites. Many. Within three weeks on the MMS, my memory and concentration improved dramatically. No more insomnia. (since the liver tries to expel toxins/poisons/pathogens while we sleep thus, the sleep disorders when the body is toxic.) My digestion and elimination problems are now resolved.
I am "Parasites in Montana" on the website Health Salon, if you'd like to read my story by Arrowwind09. Now I am dealing with having been malnourished for so many years. Miracle Mineral Solution kills pathogens, (virus's, bacteria, mold, parasites, heavy metals etc.) then the body's immune system goes into overdrive, which it is naturally intended to do .
I would be so happy if MMS worked for you as well as it did for me
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So Moxsum, did the cipro get rid of the prostatitis or are you still dealing with that also?

They pass that drug out like candy in my opinion, same with Levaquin. Very dangerous drugs for some people, and you don't know if you will be one of the unlucky ones until it happens.

Your symptoms sound like cipro problems to me. I don't know what could repair it and I have never seen any protocols.

Why don't you just go to the doc and get a fasting blood sugar. Don't eat in the morning. Water is Ok. Make an appointment for about 9 am and get it done. Then you can eliminate this issue and not worry about it.

If it turns out you are diabetic don't let them scare you into their drugs. Studies indicate you do worse with them than without. You can manage it with diet, but certainly not the diet they recommend.

And I do think that chinese herbalists may have much to offer for diatetes

and just another note about MMS, it is reported to have cured some cases of diabetes. So if all this came on after cipro, and you have since developed diabetes, I would be guessing that you have developed some kind of micoplasma that is affecting the pancrease due to the use of antibiotics.
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thanks for the advice guys!

no the cipro didnt help my prostatitis. I actually started reading about the horror stories, right before I started taking it.. but at that point i was so tired of dealing with prostatitis I thought I would give it a shot anyway since I trusted this doctor.

Ofcourse I canot prove that it caused me any side effects.. but I think its pretty likely. But these recent symptoms are 4 months after I stopped taking it. Could be related to my adrenal / stress issues.

From what ive read, it seems people with adrenal issues are prone to hypoglycemia.. which then can make you wan to eat more sugar/carbs.. sounds like what happened.. I started having a fruit shake every morning, and eating a fair amount of pasta.. then a few weeks ago I made some pasta with a friend and ate like 4 plates of it in one sitting.. I also stay up really late, and have done for a long time, which is also something that can help to cause diabetes.. and make adrenal fatigue worse.

Anyway, im gonna get a physical with my GP doctor and do the glucose test. Hopefully it turns out to be just some other type of imbalance.. I did exercise a few times without drinking water and have some allergies when this started, also adrenal fatigue can make it difficult to control sodium/potassium levels and retain water apparently.

Will keep you guys updated!
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Prostatitis is caused by yeast, and yeast starts with antibiotics.

Taking antibiotics will only make the yeast grow because it kills off the good bacteria in the intestines.

The only way to reverse all this is to take a good probiotic daily, along with some natural antibiotics, such as olive leaf extract, oil of oregano, colloidal silver, iodine, and perhaps mms.

There are some certain things you would need to stay away from. The main ones are antibiotics, fluoride, steroids, chlorine (from tap water), any baked goods containing bakers yeast, any alcohol, especially beer, which contains brewers yeast, mushrooms, and refined sugar in all its forms, especially fructose from corn syrup. These either kill off the good bacteria, or become fuel for the bad bacteria.

Vitamin C, in large doses, seems to negate the effects of fructose.

On a final note, most muscle twitching can be traced back to a magnesium deficiency, thus, taking magnesium from citrate should eliminate this problem.
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Yea.. Yeast is one theory.. there are many. Ive been taking probiotics for a while now aswell as occasionally taking olive leaf, and some others.. I heard though that taking too many probiotics can also disrupt your intestinal flora.

and the muscle twithcing. .. yea thats what I would think, but ive been spraying magnesium oil and rubbing it all over my body for a few weeks.. anyway that symptom is not so bad the past few days.. but i was having some twitches around my body quite a bit recently.
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I heard though that taking too many probiotics can also disrupt your intestinal flora.
The probiotics are all competing for territory. The good ones and the bad ones. It is good to keep a variety of species of friendly microbes down there. That's why I don't understand when products are offered to the market that only have one strain; like yogurt or that new one, called Yakult. I wish I could keep kefir going. It is the best for a very wide variety of species. Second best is sauerkraut. Third is a supplement containing such a variety.

The most important thing that friendly flora do for us is that they produce acids. The acids kill the bad microbes. You've probably heard that bad pathogens don't survive in an alkaline environment. I don't think so. A little investigation on how our symbiotic bacteria work says otherwise. It is said that 80% of our immune system is our friendly flora.
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I had insatiable carb cravings. After the MMS, gone. (I've lost over 20 pounds in 3 months.) It is estimated on the MMS info sights that 85% of all Americans have parasites and don't know it, or want to know it.....I thought, "well, MMS is cheap, and if parasites are the cause of my malady, then it's worth a try." It was. I am so grateful. I feel doctor's treat symtoms and don't get to the cause. Best of health to everyone. (You all give such valuable information here, thank you.)
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And now it is time to build ljea. It's time to stop sterilizing yourself. Probiotic supplements will help you build your immune system. That and essential vitamins and continued good diet.

You are right about doctors treating symptoms. I think we all fall into that after a while. We are jaded. Even the media has fallen into that. They give us sound bites with no investigative reporting. The pharmaceutical companies even push us into the symptom curing mindset. So do the insurance companies - health, auto, home. It's like an epidemic throughout our lives. Even BP is looking for that cure for the oil disaster; instead of performing periodic disaster recovery tests from the beginning.

Now if only I could do like you and cure the carb and salt cravings. Maybe if I got a grill (BBQ), I would eat more meat and roasted veggies.
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