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Jim,

Thanks for the input.

A couple of things: I mentioned milk thistle because, when I used to work in the natural medicine industry, I knew people who lowered liver enzyme levels by using Thisilyn (a specific milk thistle extract).

One thing that I should mention is that my mother had her gallbladder out about twenty years ago. Therefore, I'm not sure if the bile issue is still relevant.

Maybe the Liv.52 would be a better choice. I'll further review the link you posted a few days ago.

Please feel free to let me know any additional thoughts. I'm open to suggestions.
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Well, the infection she has is more than a nail infection if it is spreading down her finger.

I am not familiar with treating such infections so I can not advise on this one. Nor can I say if it is a good idea on mixing lamisil with herbs, but in general herbals have been pretty helpful on chemo therapy regimens. But with Lamisil who can say?

Topical lugols iodine, undiluted is helpful for some topical infections including fungal. You could give that a try for a couple of weeks.

One of the people I know who was severely damaged by Lamisil improved greatly after taking Transfer Factor for a few months.
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I agree with iodine as well. It, like bile, is antiseptic. Iodine also penetrates - better than colloidal silver in this activity. If she can't handle the store bought, alcohol laden, iodine, try lugols on a quetip or cotton swab. Something needs to stop that infection.
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Not sure if you can get it, but there is a Fungal Nail treatment I know of called Curanail.

It's not a quick thing though, you need patience when treating the problem. Don't expect it to work in a week or two, but apprently it does work quite well, so I understand.
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Ladies and Gents,

Thank you kindly for your continued input. I'll update you on what's happened since I last posted.

I did some additional research on oral Lamisil and decided to call my mom and strongly urge her to discontinue it's use.

I was able to encourage her to try an alternate approach. It involves both internal and external substances that will hopefully help her to overcome this health issue.


Here's what she's going to try:


Topically:

A 1-to-1 solution of vinegar and Listerine. She's going to soak her infected finger in this solution, for about five to ten minutes, twice daily.


Internally:


She's going start taking an anti-fungal, Kolorex, once daily.

In addition to that, she's going to start supplementing with biotin to encourage faster nail growth. The quicker the infected portion of the nail grows out, the shorter the treatment duration.

Finally, she'll be supplementing with a once-a-day, high-potency probiotic.

This will all be in addition to the other supplements she normally takes.


For those that may be interested, here's some illuminating information on oral Lamisil.

https://www.askapatient.com/viewratin...%20AT&sort=age


This is the information about the vinegar/Listerine combo:

https://www.peoplespharmacy.org/archi...ail_fungus.php

Thanks again to all those that contributed to this thread. I appreciate it.

I will keep you all posted on my mom's progress or lack thereof.
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Harry,

This is a quote taken from the site you just provided

"She has suffered, and continues to suffer, from loss of appetite (w/significant weight loss), severe exhaustion, nausea, chills, itchy skin and bowel problems as a result of the drug. Her internist has diagnosed her with drug-induced hepatitis"

This is exactly what has happened to the two people I know who used Lamisil.
Except the docs never said "drug induced" hepatitis, just hepititis of unknown etiology.

I would get her on "Transfer Factor" also.

Thank God you could change her mind.
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Arrowwind,

Part of the way I was able to convince my mom is showing her that site.

As it is, my mom is very thin. She doesn't eat a great deal and the prospect of her possibly losing her sense of taste and appetite (along with the potential liver damage) was enough for her to give this alternate approach a shot.

I'm hopeful it will work. My mom is pretty disciplined and I think that's a large part of the battle.

Thanks for encouraging me to dig deeper, into the literature, and for sharing your friends' experience. I relayed them to my mom and I think that also made a difference.
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Harry,

Here is another product for you to to consider. Dr. David Williams recommends this very highly. I am trying it right now on an ulcer on my ankle.

https://natrhealth.com/salvemiricle.html

PAV�

PAV� Skin care ointment is known for its ability to heal a variety of skin conditions. Works on burns, acne, warts, skin tags, infections, athlete's foot, nail fungus, insect bites, stings, cuts, and rashes to name a few. PAV� is made only from the purest ingredients�pure natural Tree Resin, Olive Oil, and Petrolatum. (Petrolatum is a FOOD GRADE thickening agent.)

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Thanks for the tip, Mari.

It's good to have options. If this current protocol doesn't work out sufficiently, I'll keep the PAV product in mind.

How's it working out on your ankle? Positive results, so far?
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I've just used it for a couple of days so I don't know yet. My son suggested I try it--he has used it for burns and insect bites.

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Thanks for the reminder Mari. I forgot about PAV. It is great. They make it in a variety of useful ointments. It lasts a very long time too. I have some gel and some turpentine based that just keep on working even after it's been stored for over 10 years. I also have the pure resin. I just keep forgetting to reach for it; and instead reach for iodine. I'll have to put it some place where I won't forget.

Isn't it amazing, all the health products that come from trees?
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I just wanted to update you all on my mom's situation.

So far, so good. The redness and swelling on her finger is diminishing. The nail still looks bad but is growing out, slowly but surely.

One issue that we had to address was a problem with her digesting the Kolorex (the natural antifungal supplement). Kolorex is a softgel (liquid filled). I knew from prior experience that freezing softgels can sometimes render them more tolerable. So, she froze the Kolorex ... and it worked - she now can tolerate it.

My mom's been faithfully taking her probiotic, in between lunch and dinner and her Kolorex and biotin, with lunch.

And, perhaps most importantly, she's been soaking her finger in the Listerine & vinegar solution - twice daily.

She's enthusiastic about the results so far. I hope the progress will continue. I'll keep y'all posted.
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Harry - trust your doctor - not some bullshit naturopathic crap for which you have no real data of efficacy or safety.

btw - really like the silliness "high potency probiotic" . any more jokes?
I would like to say that your advise to follow the doctors advice is not really fitting for this forum in my opinion. I think the main reason for people joining this forum is to search for other possible natural treatments. Besides the doctors are only prescribing what they are given to them by the pharmaceutical suppliers that give them their incentive holiday packages each year for their pushing of the pharmaceutical products. I have also been prescribed Lamisil by one of my doctors for 3 months which hd to be taken orally after she had already given me lamisil cream as a topical treatment. Needless to say her partner who is my other doctor almost had a heart attack when she discovered I was prescribed lamisil for so long due to it's ( what you so called proven results. this crap is so damaging to the organs of the body and it has been passed by the FDA which incidentally are the group of criminals who will only release a new paracetamol tablet on the market if there has been hundreds of millions of dollars payed to lobbyists to get it on the market. Once again in my opinion they are racketeering big time. Natural cures have not been clinically proven to work or even looked into by the FDA as they don't earn on such cures. They are not interested in anything which is natural even if it has been used for centuries successfully by different cultures throughout the world.

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Mark, the person who wrote the post that you are responded to, was banned from the forum...We normally dont pay much attention to the folks with those types of responses!
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Mark, the person who wrote the post that you are responded to, was banned from the forum...We normally dont pay much attention to the folks with those types of responses!
I had to react to this post. People with those kind of comments should not even contemplate joining such a forum as this. I get the impression by reading the posts that the people here are genuinely informative and helpful to the multitudes out there that are in some cases desperate to find different natural alternatives to ailments and diseases that they mat be afflicted by int heir lives.

i suppose what goes around comes around.

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