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So I took Cipro for a month .. and various other antibiotics over the past few years. Ive also been more stressed out in general for a long time now.

I think ever since I took the cipro.. my poo has not been normal.. its very rarely that it looks like a normal nice poo.. golden brown, soft, well formed.

Instead ive had every type of poo you could imagine..

- Hard, pellet like poo
- Occasional undigested food particles
- Soft mushy poo
- Dark green poo
- Green and Brown poo
- Floating poo
- Heavy sinking dropping poo
- Poorly formed loose stools that turn to liquid when I flush

Also had foul smelling gas after eating, burping a bit, bad breath and sometimes odd body odor.

What is going on? Clearly my digestive system is messed up.. Can bad bacteria in the gut cause all of these symptoms? or could it be something more complex like a liver/gallbladder issue or messed up muscular contractions in my intestines.. or yeast overgrowth.. or parasites?

Ive done various things.. took some probitiocs, tried going on a low carb diet for a while.. etc. but I never stayed very consisten with those things and my poo's have never normalized.

I have some fatigue, low libido, occasional erection problems, sometimes brain fog, etc.

How can I heal my digestive system and start having normal poo's everyday again? Obviously stress alone could cause many problems..
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I am using Wormwood or Artemisia as a possible Crohn's treatment. I have not had any bad reaction to it. It does seem to be good for the intestines in general.

It is an oxidizer, and anti-parasitic, anti-fungal, etc. I think it is worth trying as it is such a safe treatment.

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All the stuff you have mentioned can cause the unusual BMs. I'd say the problem comes down to keeping the good flora thriving. It's not just about supplementing with probiotics. You have to help them survive. Of course, dysbiosis will not allow them to survive very well. They like silica which is present in vegetable fiber - soluble fiber. They like sugars. Unfortunately, so do the bad microbes.

Floating doodoo means fats and oils present.

Increase concentrations of lactic acid-producing bacteria like Bifidobacteria, Lactobacillus and beneficial lactic acid streptococcus in the colon. https://www.crohns.net/Miva/education/dysbiosis.shtml

Also, Lactic Acid Yeast is very good for this. https://www.vitalbee.com/standard-pro...00-wafers.html Especially, if you have problems with dairy.

The lactic acid yeast organism in Lactic Acid Yeast wafers does the same thing that lactic acid bacillus does with one difference. Lactic acid bacillus only changes milk sugar to lactic acid, whereas Lactic Acid Yeast organism changes any carbohydrate to lactic acid. This difference makes the Lactic Acid Yeast organism a better bowel flora for most people, especially people who limit or avoid milk and dairy products. I don't think anyone else uses the Lactic Acid Yeast organism; other companies use lactic acid bacillus.

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If by eating refined foods a person develops an alkaline gastrointestinal tract, not only does he not digest protein -- a very bad thing, as protein is toxic when it rots in your system -- he also can't assimilate calcium and iron. This is true of other minerals as well, but especially calcium and iron. These two just cannot be picked up in an alkaline gastrointestinal tract. People are often anemic not because they do not have iron in their food, but because it goes right through them.

The main symptom of the need for Lactic Acid Yeast is intestinal gas. Intestinal gas only forms in an alkaline gastrointestinal tract because gas-producing organisms can only live in an alkaline medium. If you acidify their environment, they can't exist.

The stomach contains acids and pepsin to break down the proteins we eat into peptones and proteases before they continue on to enter the small intestine. Protein digestion is completed in the small intestine, which is more alkaline by nature. Here the partially digested proteins are further reduced to the individual building blocks of amino acids. Lactic Acid Yeast is the only acidophilic organism able to ferment any carbohydrate into lactic acid. Other similar organisms such as lactobacillus acidophilus need lactose present to produce lactic acid.
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interesting.. yea I definitely need to supplement with probitioics of some sort.. it just seems like each one does different things, and was reading about how certain ones can exacerbate allergies or autoimmune problems etc. But clearly my internal environment is not healthy .. I need to try some of these out.

I noticed I have especially bad gas after eating salads.. ? but also from other foods too..

Can this messed up gut cause my fatigue.. and you think it could cause sexual problems like low libido/erection issues?

I had some levels checked before and my calcium was at the top of the range so I doubt im having trouble digesting/absorbing calcium, I also have no white spots on my nails.

My vitamin D has been low for a long time, and this naturopath seemed to think my thyroid was a bit out of wack.. even though my thyroid levels were all normal.

In general I feel OKAY though.. but I went to japan recently for two weeks, and when I came back I had terrible diarrhea for like 5 days straight, and since then my libido seems even worse/as well as more fatigue..

Should I just start taking a probitioc supplement like Dr. Ohiras .. and maybe some aloe juice or something?
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An unhealthy digestive system can certainly cause fatigue. You body is unable to process your food, unable to digest it. I don't know about libido. I can only tell you of thing of which I'm familiar. Gas/flatulence means that your digestive system is not working properly. Your food is just fermenting. It is not digesting. Gas can also mean other things, but mostly undigested or improperly digested food.

You could try digestive enzymes for a little while to see if that will help. But from your description, I'd say you don't have stomach acid working for you. Do a search on digestive bitters on this forum. You definitely need help in that direction. Digestive bitters even help to gradually flush the liver and balance your hormones. You can't go wrong with this. All you need is enough for the back of the tongue to taste the bitters, so just take half of whatever the bottle (liquid) says. If none of this helps, you might try betaine HCL. TMG would be better. Unacidified betaine is trimethylglycine (TMG). I take TMG every day. Another quick and easy solution to stomach acid problems, is to drink a glass of water with apple cider vinegar with your meal.

Dr. Ohira's is my favorite (but fairly expensive), but you probably only need to eat a small container of yogurt each morning or check out that Lactic Acid Yeast. Another product I like and can buy at the grocers is Yakult. https://www.yakultusa.com/ It is made from yak's milk.

If you could make homemade kefir, that would be the absolute best.

If probiotics are causing you problems, then you better start researching permeable intestinal lining commonly referred to as Leaky Gut Syndrome.
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2 things:

Photos would help liven the board up a bit!

I have yellowish clay ones occasionally and I notice it is when I eat cheese the day before. No cheese, I have normal BMs. Try skipping dairy for a few days.
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You have a toxic burden, especially in your colon. Your intestines need good bacteria colonies to function properly, years of killing them has made you chronically sick. Next time don't go on anti-biotics unless you need to for your life. Eating salad greens bothers you because it detoxes, releasing toxins. Don't think because of that you should avoid greens because they make you feel bad, at a later point you will definitely want to purposefully eat alot as many greens as you can. You have brain fog since your liver and colon are overburdened and ineffective from years of killing good bacteria that your system just dumped the toxins and waste to your bloodstream which got into your brain. You will probably have to do oral or IV chelation to clear that up.

You have to detox your colon and liver, preferably several times since your problems seem severe. You may want to try out Edward Group's Oxypowder to detox your colon and Livratrex as a cheap, DIY option. Or you could try a colonic irrigation if you have the money, but doing both would probably be best. While doing that you will also want to take a good pro-biotic to build up healthy bacteria. After you are relatively clean, eat as much green vegetables as you can and drink freshly made green vegetable juice which will help to detox further.
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Thanks for the info guys.. saved1986.. dont think you want to see pics lol..

Yes ive learned my lesson the hard way.. to stay far away from antiotics.. the sad thing is, I even knew this when I took the Cipro for a month but I was desperate at that time to fix my prostate problems.

Ive heard that colon irrigations can be bad.. especially if you do them too much.. or not neccesarry..

I definitely feel like I need to cleanse my GI system, remove any bad bacteria/parasites, and rebuild it with healthy bacteria/diet/stress reduction.

And I dunno if probitiocs cause me problems, havent used them enough to say.. and I really have no idea if I have leaky gut or just dysbiosis.. I did have some unusual allergic reactions many months ago, but lately I seem okay on that front.. and my appetite is normal.. its just my poo's are very unusual.
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