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Seems this wave of air will be heading all the way down to Mexico.
I do not anticipate huge problems with this radiation, but again, how much radiaiton is safe? We shall see how long this goes on.
From my reading I found that radiation is a more serious issue for people under 30 and even more so for small children. I've been doing research on Chernobly and it seems that we, the whole planet have been signficantly lied to about what happened there... 2000 towns, villages and cites have been deserted. 500,000 children died or been damaged according to one report.
Now, this situation could be very very serious for Japan. As they have had a much larger accident than Chernobyl was..
I also found out that the same company that built and managed those reactors are scheduled to come to Texas to build 2 new ones on the Gulf coast... BECASUE THEY KNOW HOW TO DO IT RIGHT!
There is a whole scandal building around this topic...as people are now willing to listen to what the whistleblowers are saying.
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03-18-2011, 12:22 PM
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The Russians learnt during the aftermath of the Chernobyl Disaster that Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA) and vitamin E was effective in preventing radiation poisoning of children in the fallout area. Please note this is not health advice. People with heavy metal loads,especially mercury, should only take ALA after consulting a health practitioner.
https://tinyurl.com/4jrx32l
Unfortunately you cant protect the environment and 25 years later children born since are still suffering from the effects of the fallout.
Personally I dont think it will come to that and neither does Dr Weill.
https://www.drweil.com/drw/u/QAA400903/Protection-Against-Radiation.html
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03-18-2011, 02:47 PM
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The AP is reporting that the radiation that heading to the west coast is of a very low level and not to worry. Of course isn�t this the same media that right after 911 told New Yorkers that the air was safe to breath?
Now it will probably be true that it will be very low level radiation as it is from the very first small leaks. But I wonder what we will be told about the radiation leaks from explosions that took place latter on? Will they continue to say it low level so as to not to worry anyone?
Listening to a talk show the other day a guy called in say he just returned from the region after visiting friends. He left just before the earthquake. He said he was able to get in touch with them and ask how they were doing.
From there description it sounds like they are suffering classic radiation poisoning. But we will have to wait for MSM to confirm it, maybe sometime in the next five years or so.
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03-19-2011, 06:33 AM
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The Russians learnt during the aftermath of the Chernobyl Disaster that Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA) and vitamin E was effective in preventing radiation poisoning of children in the fallout area. Please note this is not health advice. People with heavy metal loads,especially mercury, should only take ALA after consulting a health practitioner.
https://tinyurl.com/4jrx32l
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I hope you don't mind that I post the contents of that PDF document here. It will make later searches better.
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Lipoic Acid Can Protect Against Radiation Poisoning
Nuclear radiation is an industrial-strength promoter of excessive free radicals that most certainly can kill you. Toxicologists have used antioxidants to treat people who have been subject to all types of irradiation for many years. ALA, specifically, is shown to protect the bone marrow of mice from radiation injury.
One of the most harmful and far-reaching nuclear accidents that we know of took place in Chernobyl, Russia, in 1986. The accident exposed the local population to constant low- and high-level injurious radiation, and the soil in this and regions extending more than a thousand miles were contaminated with radioactive material. Russian scientists were desperate to help the people, and an ALA study done in the community examined the effects of twenty-eight days of alpha lipoic acid therapy on children exposed to radiation. Researchers reported that ALA, when used by itself and with vitamin E, was an effective treatment for radiation poisoning. In addition, they noted that abnormal liver and kidney functions were corrected with the ALA treatment regimen.
- Burt Berkson, M.D., Ph.D., one of the world�s foremost authorities on alpha lipoic acid, is the principal FDA investigator for its intravenous use and a consultant to the national Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
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03-19-2011, 07:16 AM
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Just heard on TV News this morning that Japanese have found radioactive stuff in local milk & fresh spinach.
Now Mothers/those with small children have a new concern. Doesn't Japan also do a lot of rice growing?
If so, then rice fields w/be affected too as well as any locally grown fresh veggies. Their whole food
chain is subject to contamination possibly.
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03-19-2011, 12:14 PM
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This came from prison planet. I will see if I can find the address again later
Harmless? Chernobyl Radiation Killed Nearly One Million People
NEW YORK, New York, - Nearly one million people around the world died from exposure to radiation released by the 1986 nuclear disaster at the Chernobylreactor, finds a new book from the New York Academy of Sciences published today on the 24th anniversary of the meltdown at the Soviet facility.
The book, "Chernobyl: Consequences of the Catastrophe for People and the Environment," was compiled by authors Alexey Yablokov of the Center for Russian Environmental Policy in Moscow, and Vassily Nesterenko and AlexeyNesterenko of the Institute of Radiation Safety, in Minsk, Belarus.>
The authors examined more than 5,000 published articles and studies, most written in Slavic languages and never before available in English.
The authors said, "For the past 23 years, it has been clear that there is a danger greater than nuclear weapons concealed within nuclear power. Emissions from this one reactor exceeded a hundred-fold the radioactive contamination of the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki."
"No citizen of any country can be assured that he or she can be
protected from radioactive contamination. One nuclear reactor can pollute half the globe," they said. "Chernobyl fallout covers the entire Northern Hemisphere."
The Chernobyl nuclear reactor was destroyed by an explosion and
fire April 26, 1986. Their findings are in contrast to estimates by the World Health Organization and the International Atomic Energy Agency that initially said only 31 people had died among the "liquidators," those approximately 830,000 people who were in charge of extinguishing the fire at the Chernobyl reactor and
deactivation and cleanup of the site.
The book finds that by 2005, between 112,000 and 125,000 liquidators had died.
"On this 24th anniversary of the Chernobyl disaster, we now realize that the consequences were far worse than many researchers had believed," says Janette Sherman, MD, the physician and toxicologist who edited the book.
Drawing upon extensive data, the authors estimate the number of deaths worldwide due to Chernobyl fallout from 1986 through 2004 was 985,000, a number that has since increased.
By contrast, WHO and the IAEA estimated 9,000 deaths and some 200,000 people sickened in 2005.
On April 26, 1986, two explosions occured at reactor number four at the Chernobyl plant which tore the top from the reactor and its building and exposed the reactor core. The resulting fire sent a plume of radioactive fallout into the atmosphere and over large parts of the western Soviet Union, Europe and across the Northern Hemisphere. Large areas in Ukraine, Belarus, and Russia had to be evacuated.
Yablokov and his co-authors find that radioactive emissions from the stricken reactor, once believed to be 50 million curies, may have been as great as 10 billion curies, or 200 times greater than the initial estimate, and hundreds of times larger than the fallout from the atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Nations outside the former Soviet Union received high doses of
radioactive fallout, most notably Norway, Sweden, Finland, Yugoslavia, Bulgaria,Austria, Romania, Greece, and parts of the United Kingdom and Germany.
Disabled children from Belarus visiting the UK during Easter 2010
sponsored by the charity Medicine Chernobyl Belarus Special Aid Group.
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(Photo by Matthew and Heather)
About 550 million Europeans, and 150 to 230 million others in the
Northern Hemisphere received notable contamination. Fallout reached the United States and Canada nine days after the disaster.
The proportion of children considered healthy born to irradiated parents in Belarus, the Ukraine, and European Russia considered healthy fell from about 80 percent to less than 20 percent since 1986.
Numerous reports reviewed for this book document elevated disease rates in the Chernobyl area. These include increased fetal and infant deaths, birth defects, and diseases of the respiratory, digestive, musculoskeletal, nervous, endocrine, reproductive, hematological, urological, cardiovascular, genetic, immune, and other systems, as well as cancers and non-cancerous tumors.
In addition to adverse effects in humans, numerous other species have been contaminated, based upon studies of livestock, voles, birds, fish, plants, trees, bacteria, viruses, and other species.
Foods produced in highly contaminated areas in the former Soviet Union were shipped, and consumed worldwide, affecting persons in many other nations. Some, but not all, contamination was detected and contaminated foods not shipped.
The authors warn that the soil, foliage, and water in highly contaminated areas still contain substantial levels of radioactive chemicals, and will continue to harm humans for decades to come.
The book explores effects of Chernobyl fallout that arrived above the United States nine days after the disaster. Fallout entered the U.S. environment and food chain through rainfall. Levels of iodine-131 in milk, for example, were seven to 28 times above normal in May and June 1986. The authors found
that the highest U.S. radiation levels were recorded in the Pacific
Northwest.
Americans also consumed contaminated food imported from nations affected by the disaster. Four years later, 25 percent of imported food was found to be still contaminated.
Little research on Chernobyl health effects in the United States has been conducted, the authors found, but one study by the Radiation and Public Health Project found that in the early 1990s, a few years after the meltdown, thyroid cancer in Connecticut children had nearly doubled.
This occurred at the same time that childhood thyroid cancer rates in the former Soviet Union were surging, as the thyroid gland is highly sensitive to radioactive iodine exposures.
The world now has 435 nuclear reactors and of these, 104 are in the United States.
The authors of the study say not enough attention has been paid to Eastern European research studies on the effects of Chernobyl at a time when corporations in several nations, including the United States, are attempting to build more nuclear reactors and to extend the years of operation of aging reactors.
The authors said in a statement, "Official discussions from the
International Atomic Energy Agency and associated United Nations' agencies (e.g. the Chernobyl Forum reports) have largely downplayed or ignored many of the findings reported in the Eastern European scientific literature and consequently have erred by not including these assessments.">
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03-19-2011, 04:35 PM
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The nuclear power plants in Japan were fifty years old. I would think that many improvements in design have taken place since the sixties.
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03-19-2011, 07:27 PM
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Did you know that they stored spent but hot nuclear rods inside the container, on top of the reactor, so when the container blew 2000 hot nuclear rods exploded and blew into the air with it?
That has nothing to do with how old the reactor is, it has to do with sheer stupidity
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03-19-2011, 09:06 PM
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Ah yes but the MSM does not talk about that they are just say isn�t it nice that the main containment structure held. Well yeah but��..
Oh and by the way that is old news now so we don�t need to be concerned about it any longer or the radiation cloud heading this way, instead looky see what is happening in Libya isn�t this why more interesting then some dirty old radiation cloud?
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What bothers me the most is that there was no back-up generator, that would supply power to the cooling pumps in case of a power failure.
That is really stupid.
And just so everyone knows, there are nuclear power plants in California, right along the coast. This is just another disaster waiting to happen..
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03-21-2011, 06:46 AM
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I believe that there were but that their fuel supply got washed away. Plus the sea water got into the control circuity also making them inoperable.
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03-21-2011, 09:37 AM
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I believe that there were but that their fuel supply got washed away. Plus the sea water got into the control circuity also making them inoperable.
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This reminds me of a ride at the fair.
It works like a charm til one little bolt falls out, then all Hell breaks loose..
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03-21-2011, 02:25 PM
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This whole situation is surreal.
I've been looking for a site that would give me an idea for the current radiation level is for the US. Anyone find one?
I have a 4 year old daughter so I want to be as proactive as I can for this situation. We usually go to the farmer's market tomorrow but if the radiation is active then I may reconsider.....but how long will this last? No one knows.
Thanks in advance.
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03-21-2011, 04:08 PM
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I've been looking for a site that would give me an idea for the current radiation level is for the US. Anyone find one?
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I haven't been looking for one, but found these numbers for Washington.
https://www.doh.wa.gov/Topics/japan/monitor.htm
PS: Here's an individual taking readings in California, not sure how accurate.
https://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/cali...iation-levels/
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03-23-2011, 05:59 PM
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Thanks Kind2creatures, those sites were helpful especially the one showing California readings. Looks like there has been no radiactive increase at all. I appreciate your help.
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Mommysunshine, most likely you have the 2% Lugol's. 2 (horizontal) drops of the solution equal about 6.5 mg solution. The 5% Lugol's equals 12.5 mg. Double and a half the drops of the 2% which should take you to about 25 drops. Please make sure you hold your dropper in the horizontal (sideways ☺) position to get a full drop. 3 years to 18 years: give half the adult dose.
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Thanks Storehouse!
Interestingly, I've been taking the iodine with selenium, vit. B's, C and magnesium and I feel fabulous. Fatigue has been haunting me for months and I have hypothyroidism but the iodine has made a dramatic positive increase in my energy. Someone on this forum pointed me to an article stating that Selenium deficiency could cause iodine to negatively react in a Hashimoto thyroiditis situation. I want to find that person to thank them because I think that was the missing link.
Is everyone still feeling comfortable with the low levels of radiation to the USA? I don't know enough about cesium, strontium or plutonium but seems these may be more of a worry. I don't know.
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