First, Atkins Acceptable Foods list (which is good) is not the same as their recommended Induction plan (which is bad, bad, BAD - it calls for MANY things which are not included in the Acceptable Foods list, like bread, tortillas etc. The person who wrote it simply wasn't thinking and didn't have a clue about Induction rules. Don't be surprised, in marketing-driven corporations such things happen more often than not). Stick to Acceptable Foods list. And the BEST thing to do would be to get the book - it's called "Dr Atkins New Diet Revolution" and has all the lists, all the menus and all the explanations.
Second, you confuse soy flour with soy protein. Soy flour is just ground soy beans. Not acceptable on Induction. Soy/whey PROTEIN (or protein isolate, protein concentrate) is pure protein extracted from soy or whey and as such acceptable on Induction.
But pancakes made with only soy/whey protein tend to be very dry (it's a highly higroscopic powder), so you need to add something to give it moisture. I'd recommend flaxseed meal (ground flaxseed). It has a negligeable amount of digestible carbs, lots of fiber and when combined with water, it forms a sort of (hm, can't think of a term that would be even remotely appetizing, native speakers please help, what is an appetizing term for goo/slime??? ) - OK, I'll go for 'goo' for now - which is like a moisturizing cream to all your innards. In fact, over here it is sold in pharmacies as stomach/intestinal remedy. I know, sounds disgusting, but your stomach will thank you. Oh, I forgot to mention, it's quite tasty, too. Nutty, sort of.
Are flaxseeds and flax meal allowed during induction?
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Originally Posted by bluehex
Yaz, you seem to be confusing things a bit here.
First, Atkins Acceptable Foods list (which is good) is not the same as their recommended Induction plan (which is bad, bad, BAD - it calls for MANY things which are not included in the Acceptable Foods list, like bread, tortillas etc. The person who wrote it simply wasn't thinking and didn't have a clue about Induction rules. Don't be surprised, in marketing-driven corporations such things happen more often than not). Stick to Acceptable Foods list. And the BEST thing to do would be to get the book - it's called "Dr Atkins New Diet Revolution" and has all the lists, all the menus and all the explanations.
Second, you confuse soy flour with soy protein. Soy flour is just ground soy beans. Not acceptable on Induction. Soy/whey PROTEIN (or protein isolate, protein concentrate) is pure protein extracted from soy or whey and as such acceptable on Induction.
But pancakes made with only soy/whey protein tend to be very dry (it's a highly higroscopic powder), so you need to add something to give it moisture. I'd recommend flaxseed meal (ground flaxseed). It has a negligeable amount of digestible carbs, lots of fiber and when combined with water, it forms a sort of (hm, can't think of a term that would be even remotely appetizing, native speakers please help, what is an appetizing term for goo/slime??? ) - OK, I'll go for 'goo' for now - which is like a moisturizing cream to all your innards. In fact, over here it is sold in pharmacies as stomach/intestinal remedy. I know, sounds disgusting, but your stomach will thank you. Oh, I forgot to mention, it's quite tasty, too. Nutty, sort of.
There was a lot of debate about this. Technically, they are not on the Induction Acceptable list. AND they are seeds, so that would place them in OWL rather than Induction. But on the other hand, they are practically all fiber - so no sugar impact. And they help greatly with bathroom issues.
I'd say it's one of those things for individual decision. I use them. I believe the benefits outweigh the doubt. If you remember, Northernlady, LoriAnn and other "old hands" recommended them too. But yes, you are right in pointing it out, they are not on "The List".
hmmm...they aren't on the list but it sounds pretty great to know that they're good for the digestion. Lord knows I am having real issues with that (once in 3/4 days in you're wondering - despite the 3litres water)...i take fibre pills now and again out of concern but i am reluctant to just in case they have something iffy in them.
Also, it does mention sprinkling flaxseed over salad or sumthin if you have constipation soooo we can safely say its not one of those 'big no - no's'.
thanks so much for your tip bluehex, i will go out tomorrow and get me some flaxseed meal tomorrow. hopefuly they have it at the health store.
Also, are Walden Farm's syrups permissible if they claim 'no carbs' etc? i just ebayed a couple and they were quite pricey! I got the idea from the recipe section - it appeared to be acceptable on induction. Does anyone know anything about them?
This atkins meal-plan is completely different than the one they had when I first did atkins. There was no such thing as wasa bread or rye toast - or whatever it is. I don't know when they changed things up.
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Originally Posted by bluehex
Yaz, you seem to be confusing things a bit here.
First, Atkins Acceptable Foods list (which is good) is not the same as their recommended Induction plan (which is bad, bad, BAD - it calls for MANY things which are not included in the Acceptable Foods list, like bread, tortillas etc. The person who wrote it simply wasn't thinking and didn't have a clue about Induction rules. Don't be surprised, in marketing-driven corporations such things happen more often than not). Stick to Acceptable Foods list. And the BEST thing to do would be to get the book - it's called "Dr Atkins New Diet Revolution" and has all the lists, all the menus and all the explanations.
In terms of Flaxseeds... They are perhaps one of the healthiest foods you can eat... recently discovered to be one of those miracle (type) foods. If you're concerned of the total carbs (keeping in mind it's NET CARBS - not total carbs), then avoid them, for induction. I haven't eaten any yet, but I am definitely considering it.
ewi made it today and man oh man was it nasty... i only used 1/4 cup flaxseed. it was gritty at the bottom of the mixture, and brought out the eggy taste...
hmmm wat if i use 1 egg and 2 egg whites? may be less eggy...
When I make flax pancakes, I only use use 2 eggs and 2 heaped tablespons of flaxmeal, plus some sweetener - I can't tell you the amount, as my taste varies from day to day, somethimes I make it sweeter, sometimes less. A pinch of salt, no water. The batter should be fairly thick.
hey does anyone know how much flaxmeal is allowed in a day? i heard 1g carb per tablespoon, and only one tbsp allowed on induction
(i read it on the board)
soy protein/whey protein on induction?
) - OK, I'll go for 'goo' for now 
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