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Florinization of water linked to autism/cognitive disorders
Florinization programs instituted starting in the mid 1900s have been conclusively linked to the increase in autism and other cognitive disorders in children in recent decades. Does anyone have any more information about this? What are the risks to my baby? My husband and I have both lived in areas where the water was fluorinated by the government for years and grew up drinking fluoride water and using the dental rinses administered by our health care professionals. Does anyone know of any studies that have been done to show the incidence of problems? I am in my second trimester. Is there any supplements (prefer holistic/natural) I can take to lessen the risk? Thank you, Peg
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