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Old 09-24-2009, 11:18 AM
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Hi there,

I recently ordered MMS, but am hesitant to take it due to my current situation.

I have Crohn's, and most likely Lyme (had one test result that was Positive, and another that was inconclusive, even though there was some Lyme present).

I'm currently taking a number of antibiotics for the Lyme, Candida and fungus problems. As well, I'm taking LDN (Low Dose Naltrexone) for my IBS.

I've been through a bad flare up recently, and am still recovering from it. I'm also experiencing severe brain fog, poor memory, fatigue, congested ears and temperature fluctuations (very sensitive to temperature, occasional night sweats).

I'm really looking forward to trying MMS, as I've read a lot of positive feedback on it. However, my question is, would it be safe to take it while I'm taking the antibiotics currently? Will either interfere with each other? I'm guessing that the timing would be an issue, as I've read that the MMS doesn't remain in the body for more than an hour after you ingest it.

Hoping someone can advise
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Old 09-24-2009, 04:45 PM
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I am guessing that you will not be taking the antibiotics very long, unless you are seeing an LLMD. So you may as well wait until you are done, before taking MMS.

MMS works for both Crohn's and Lyme. I have Crohn's and MMS is one of the two most important treatments I use. LDN is the other.

My wife used MMS for Lyme and it worked well, but her stomach could not hold up to it, after a few weeks of use. I suspect that it may have even worked somewhat against the cyst form of Lyme, but I really could not say for sure in that short time. I think to avoid the tolerance problem, long term, low doses are a better solution.

I guess I would try not to use MMS and antibiotics concurrently. If you have Lyme, you would really be taxing your body with all of the die off, and the Liver is under enough stress already from the antibiotics. I would be taking massive amounts of probiotics, so you do not end up with C-Diff or some other unwanted bacterial invasion, especially since you have Crohn's.

Green Tea greatly enhances the effect of antibiotics, so if you are going to use them, you may as well get all you can out of them.

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Old 09-25-2009, 06:46 AM
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Thanks for the reply Dan. I'll be on the antibiotics for another 3 weeks or so. As far as the LDN, I'm hoping I'll be able to stay on it long term as it does seem to be helping. I didn't know that about green tea, that's a helpful tip!

As far as the LDN and MMS you're taking, how are they working for you? Does a combination of both keep you in remission? Are you currently taking a maintenance dose of MMS?

Are there any issues you've experienced while taking MMS and LDN together?
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Old 09-25-2009, 07:11 AM
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I originally took MMS for six weeks, prior to using LDN. After four weeks my symptoms were gone, so I used it two more weeks to make sure I had eliminated or greatly reduced the bacteria causing symptoms.

After that I started my LDN prescription. The LDN does not work perfectly, and occasionally I will feel some sensation in my Terminal Ilium and that means inflammation. I will then use MMS for a few days to keep things normal. Sometimes I skip the LDN when using MMS, if I am using them too close together. Usually I just take MMS at 2:00 or 3:00 PM and then take the LDN at night as normal.

I have not had any problem taking LDN or MMS, other than getting the horrible tasting MMS down my throat. It gets harder to take the longer you use it.

I do not take a maintenance dose of MMS as an everyday thing, but it could be done. I do not know if there is any long term problems with doing this, so I have avoided using daily doses.

In your situation with Lyme disease, it makes more sense to use a daily maintenance dose since the disease is going to have to be treated for longer than three weeks. Unless you just acquired the Lyme bacteria, you are not going to be cured with a few weeks of antibiotics.

How long have you had Lyme? That is going to determine how difficult it is to get rid of. The IBS is not going to be that difficult to deal with, but the Lyme may be.

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Old 09-25-2009, 09:33 AM
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I was bitten by a tick while on vacation when I was quite young, probably around 5 years old or so. This, paired with my symptoms, and the test results, leads my doctor to believe that I have Lyme. He believes that the Lyme is directly related to my IBS, and that it has been lying dormant all of these years. Thus, eradicating Lyme = little to no IBS symptoms.

If this is true, I've probably had it Lyme for about 18-19 years...basically my whole life.
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If you have had Lyme that long, it is highly unlikely that a few weeks or even a few months of antibiotics are going to clear the disease out.

Cyst form lies deep within the joints and is difficult to kill or even get at with oral medications.

If you still have ongoing symptoms, and you cannot get rid of them with oral methods, you may want to look into Rife frequency treatment as a long term treatment.

This method uses specific frequencies to damage or kill the spirochete form of Lyme. This is useful for keeping the active form under control.

I am currently using frequencies calculated to damage the DNA of Lyme in all of its forms. It is having an effect, but I am not far enough into it to say it will cure chronic Lyme. That is what I am after. The more common Lyme frequencies have kept the disease manageable for my wife.

It is one of the best ways to manage Lyme disease, with no known adverse effects.

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