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There is a drug that dissolved gall stones.... it is popular in Europe and I have heard that it is very good. Perhaps you could PM Ted and see if he can find out about it for you.. I don't remember what it is called but I think it is a natural compound.

My husband could have died from his gall bladder condition. When the surgeon said cut I said wait, lets think about this.. but my husband said no, lets cut. The docs weren't sure what was wrong with it when they went in. Turns out it had gangrene and was near to rupture! We have a lovely photo of it... so I am cautious when it comes to these issues. and not all surgeons are in it just for the money. Its a difficult position to be in making decisions like this.. but yes, you are right. Surgery for him will be high risk.... but if the surgeon ever says we must do it, which he obviously has not said so far, I would consider carefully because a ruptured gall bladder can be life threatening also.

Corns silk tea is suppose to help move kidney stones out painlessly, so I've read. It takes several cups a day in case that issue comes up again.

Once again consider his edema may be related to the heart, not the kidneys.
His gallbladder doesn't hurt...per say, he just doesn't feel good most days and the tests showed a fatty liver and the doc said he has gallbladder stones...don't most of us?

He says his heart feels fine, no chest pain, I am not saying anything other than what he told me, could it still be the heart or would he know?

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I just came across this which says it will dissolve gall stones.. the glandular rejuvenator

https://www.healthherbs.com/product.php?pid=7932-002


Gland Rejuvenator: This formula is used to remove blockage, help to eliminate toxins and dissolve gall stones. It balance out blood sugar.

I am listening to Dr Truman Berst on the computer radio now. you can find him here:
https://www.oneradionetwork.com/healt...ember-17-2011/
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Aside from herbs like Milk Thistle and Dandelion for cleansing the liver, just simple lemon juice in water daily is beneficial for the liver and other organs. https://www.livestrong.com/article/28...iver-function/
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Interesting read:

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Hey, the drug is called Actigall, and it appears to be a pretty safe med that actually works. Also it is available in the US.
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He says his heart feels fine, no chest pain, I am not saying anything other than what he told me, could it still be the heart or would he know?
The odema points to low cardiac output (heart not pumping strong enough) which will mean reduced blood flow to all the organs, which could be responsible for symptoms in liver and kidneys. You can still have poor blood flow from an elderly heart and not have chest pain especially if your laid down all day.

The best thing for poor cardiac output is activated Ubiquinol (not the normal Ubiquinone!). Studies have shown that Ubiquinol can increase cardiac output by over 80% in elderly patients.

https://www.natmedtalk.com/f25/23332-...-patients.html

Try 2x200mg of Ubiquinol/day for a month and see if there is improvement. It takes time for blood levels of CoQ10 to come up, especially if he is on statins.

https://www.iherb.com/Healthy-Origins...els/15762?at=0
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The drug Actigall is a natural product, although the stuff you gat at the drug store is made in a lab. The Chinese and Vietnames have bear farms because it is found naturally in high concentrations in bear bile. This was on wikipedia, but the drug appears safe, although there is some issue with immune response and researches in London are studying the drug as has potential to prevent arrythmias. Ask you dad's doc for a week supply and see how it goes. There was a review board and people were posting it worked wonders for gallstones.
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In the human body lecithin is a component of cell membranes that allows cell membranes to be flexible. If all of the lecithin was removed from our bodies we would be rock hard. Lecithin is a major component of myelin, which insulates the nerves and brain tissue. As a component of bile the lecithin makes the bile an emulsifier to allow the body to properly absorb dietary fats and fat soluble vitamins. As an emulsifier, lecithin also lowers cholesterol, removes plaque from arterial walls and helps reduce the incidence of gallstones. Lecithin is also a rich source of choline, which is essential for the formation of the neurotransmitter acetylcholine.

A few health benefits of lecithin include:

-Clearing plaque from the arteries.
-Lowering cholesterol and triglycerides.
-Preventing and dissolving gallstones.
-Helping to repair damage to the brain, due to the phosphatidyl serine (PS) content and
improving memory due to the phosphatidyl choline (PC) content.
-Improving the absorption of dietary fats and fat soluble vitamins.
-Weight loss by decreasing body fat.
-Aiding with liver regeneration and preventing fat deposits in the liver.
-Regeneration of myelin, especially important for multiple sclerosis and diabetic
neuropathy.
-Promotes breast health and improves prostate secretions.
-Maintains cell membrane flexibility and controls movement of nutrients across the
membranes.

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Cholesterol gallstones are among the most common gastrointestinal disorders in Western societies. Individuals with gallstones may experience various gastrointestinal symptoms and are also at risk of developing acute or chronic cholecystitis. Cholecystectomy is the most frequently recommended conventional treatment for symptomatic gallstones. Bile acids (ursodeoxycholic acid or chenodeoxycholic acid) are also used in some cases to dissolve radiolucent stones, but these drugs can cause gastrointestinal side effects and there is a high rate of stone recurrence after treatment is discontinued. Lithotripsy is used in some cases in conjunction with ursodeoxycholic acid for patients who have a single symptomatic non-calcified gallstone. There is evidence that dietary factors influence the risk of developing cholesterol gallstones. Dietary factors that may increase risk include cholesterol, saturated fat, trans fatty acids, refined sugar, and possibly legumes. Obesity is also a risk factor for gallstones. Dietary factors that may prevent the development of gallstones include polyunsaturated fat, monounsaturated fat, fiber, and caffeine. Consuming a vegetarian diet is also associated with decreased risk. In addition, identification and avoidance of allergenic foods frequently relieves symptoms of gallbladder disease, although it does not dissolve gallstones. Nutritional supplements that might help prevent gallstones include vitamin C, soy lecithin, and iron. In addition, a mixture of plant terpenes (Rowachol) has been used with some success to dissolve radiolucent gallstones. The gallbladder flush is a folk remedy said to promote the passage of gallstones. While minimal scientific evidence supports the efficacy of this treatment, anecdotal reports suggest the gallbladder flush may be beneficial for some people.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19803550
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He says his heart feels fine, no chest pain, I am not saying anything other than what he told me, could it still be the heart or would he know?
You can have heart issues without pain. a common sign of heart issues is edema of the feet and ankles. Sometimes people don't know until they drop dead. But typically it is called congestive heart failure and it can be chronic and long term and actual heart symptoms can be illusive. There may be some shortness of breath with exertion and sometimes people dont want to lay down to sleep. The recliner chair becomes their new bed. Anyway, with his symptoms I would be calling for a cardiac assessment. Beter to know than not know. Water buld up is due from some kind of heart failure in most cases, not kidney issues.
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You can have heart issues without pain. a common sign of heart issues is edema of the feet and ankles. Sometimes people don't know until they drop dead. But typically it is called congestive heart failure and it can be chronic and long term and actual heart symptoms can be illusive. There may be some shortness of breath with exertion and sometimes people dont want to lay down to sleep. The recliner chair becomes their new bed. Anyway, with his symptoms I would be calling for a cardiac assessment. Beter to know than not know. Water buld up is due from some kind of heart failure in most cases, not kidney issues.
He is a WWII vet, and is at the Dr. seems like every couple of weeks, and always running some kinda tests on him, I wonder why they did not make an appointment or want to get him in when he called saying he had swollen feet and ankles?
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He is a WWII vet, and is at the Dr. seems like every couple of weeks, and always running some kinda tests on him, I wonder why they did not make an appointment or want to get him in when he called saying he had swollen feet and ankles?
Key Word: FLORIDA The med system there is pretty bad plus this time of year they are overloaded.
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Key Word: FLORIDA The med system there is pretty bad plus this time of year they are overloaded.
Well...I don't know, the VA keeps him well tested, I think they have tested him for things there is no test for, almost every other week he is getting something tested, and he pays nothing for it...but hates socialism.
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Well...I don't know, the VA keeps him well tested, I think they have tested him for things there is no test for, almost every other week he is getting something tested, and he pays nothing for it...but hates socialism.

Start giving him CoQ 10 in the ubiquinol form 100 mg twice a day and see if the swelling subsides after a week.
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Start giving him CoQ 10 in the ubiquinol form 100 mg twice a day and see if the swelling subsides after a week.
I will check out the active form, they sent him water pills in the mail, not the lasix but another type, the swelling is starting to go down and he said he is only taking 1/2 a pill per day.
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In the human body lecithin is a component of cell membranes that allows cell membranes to be flexible. If all of the lecithin was removed from our bodies we would be rock hard. Lecithin is a major component of myelin, which insulates the nerves and brain tissue. As a component of bile the lecithin makes the bile an emulsifier to allow the body to properly absorb dietary fats and fat soluble vitamins. As an emulsifier, lecithin also lowers cholesterol, removes plaque from arterial walls and helps reduce the incidence of gallstones. Lecithin is also a rich source of choline, which is essential for the formation of the neurotransmitter acetylcholine.

A few health benefits of lecithin include:

-Clearing plaque from the arteries.
-Lowering cholesterol and triglycerides.
-Preventing and dissolving gallstones.
-Helping to repair damage to the brain, due to the phosphatidyl serine (PS) content and
improving memory due to the phosphatidyl choline (PC) content.
-Improving the absorption of dietary fats and fat soluble vitamins.
-Weight loss by decreasing body fat.
-Aiding with liver regeneration and preventing fat deposits in the liver.
-Regeneration of myelin, especially important for multiple sclerosis and diabetic
neuropathy.
-Promotes breast health and improves prostate secretions.
-Maintains cell membrane flexibility and controls movement of nutrients across the
membranes.
A couple of question here...

Are all lecithin granules the same? They are used for making liopsomal and I was going to get some more for making the vitamin c so are all "pure" equally good?

I have seen that some digestive aids contain ox bile, does this help breaking down stones or helping with complete digestion? Are they equal or better than the digestive aids that don't contain it?
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