This issue was actually never resolved, i just re-read the entire thread here and it blew my mind, here is why, and you guys who are familiar with my whole story will understand straight away...
A friend of mine was misdiagnosed as having oral Thrush. She tried various natural treatments, it wouldn't go away.
It turned out she actually has a condition called Lichen Planus, a self-allergy of the skin which can suddenly develop for unknown reasons.
You might want to look it up.
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Originally Posted by Arrowwind09
Truestorytotell, you have been in this odessey for quite a while now and tried a number of antifugnals, both conventional
and alternative.
It seems really strange to me that it has not significantly decreased.
But now is a good time to seek out another physcian to look at your case. You should find out if it is lichen plantin also.
I have never run into that in my work but look into it.
When your doctor made the diagnois of candida did he do a culture to confirm his diagnosis? If not this is what you need.
You need to confirm by culture that candida is exactly what you have. He would take oral scrapping for this...and it is painless.
It seems to me with all the treatment you have had you would have made a significant dent it the issue by now.
This oral lichen planus may be a good tip from dogwoman. I think it is worth following through on...and lets see if you can take another
stab at getting a confirmation on diagnosis. Remember, most doctors diagnosis oral candida soley through viusual observation, not a culture..
and error could have been made.
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Originally Posted by Arrowwind09
Well if it is improved perhaps it is candida, but considering all the antifungals you have been on I would get a
confirmation at this point, especially if the diagnosis was made by visual insepection only.
just fluctuations in your immune system can made an autoimmune disease fluctuate and seem better... only to get worse again as your immune system
declines again... so that could account for it looking better if it is lichen planus. You have been doing alot to try to improve your immune system.
Any medical doctor can do a culture and sensitivity test. If it is candida it is well worth the sensitivity test. You can spend a lot of time
thowing the wrong medicine at it and actually cause it to get stronger by using the wrong medicine. Its not a matter of what is the strongest medicine.
That is a huge error in thinking. It is a matter of a medicine that is designed to kill that specific pathogen. The medicines are all strong but they
are strong in different ways, just like pathogens are.
Im tired, i feel like i want to break down and cry, if i was a woman i probably would...
Could this have been Lichen Ruber Planus ALL ALONG?
But the dermatologist that diagnosed my tongue to begin with is the same one i saw 2 days ago that so easily diagnosed the Lichen Ruber Planus, how could he have missed it?
Im thinking of paying him a quick visit just to take a look at my tongue and maybe his initial diagnosis was wrong...but i remember i visited another dermatologist too back then and he also said i have mycosis so confirming the initial diagnosis...
But a swab test was NEVER done, it was all visual...
Im tired, i cant gather my thoughts, im all alone in this, me and this forum, i hate this country, i feel like crap...i know self-pity sucks and everything, but i just cant help it anymore, ive been doing all i can alone and i feel like im failing, all these life changes and what do i have to show for it, the hives i had went away, the genital warts i had/have seem to be disapearing, but im tired, my head feels like its going to explode...
But if this was Lichen Ruber Planus all along how come it got worst now that my Genital Warts are almost gone???!!! Wouldnt it make sense for this to come out at my low point when my immunity was crap and i was living the bad life and had all these huge genital warts outbreaks and herpes outbreaks and hives.? How is it possible to happen now that im doing all the right things? Now that my immunity is up and my warts are going away and the hives are long gone and i havent had a hepres outbreak in months too, its all signs that my immune system is up and running, killing stuff, doing its job, how can this beee?? its confusing and tiring and im depressed yes i am, but i cant give up, i cant, no way...
I just went real quick to my dermatologist and he looked at my tongue and said its Fungus(in Greek) :P
I said could it possibly be Lichen Ruber Planus and he said No because that only comes out on the cheeks, not on the tongue...He looked pretty sure, but im not convinced i dont know...
So he prescribed me with daktarin gel, told me to eat yoghurt with probiotic bacteria and i was out...I already been doing that, eating yoghurt and supplementing probiotics...
As far as Daktarin goes been there done that, Nystasin too been there done that...
But im not convinced, what do you think? Should i go and make a culture test to make sure 100%?
Arrow do you think i should just drop it, make my MMS, start using it and then after i use it for a couple of weeks we see and we do?
I went to a Chemist just now looking for some stuff i wanna buy, and i asked how much would a swab test cost and to my suprise its pretty cheap, i could afford it...
But i have to go monday because the chemist wasnt there today, i spoke to his secretary... Should i do it? If yes should i ask for something specific or is like one thing and he will know what to do(i dont want to do this and then later realise i should have asked for something specific)?
Drop it and do the mms. Rinse your mouth with it too.
Darkarin is miconazole, generally pretty good for yeast infection.
If you have it just hold on to it and wait.
Try the mms first.
Borac acid is also effective. Ill look around to see how to do that orally.
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I dont have Daktarine, i just have a prescription for it, which doesnt really mean anything because i could buy Daktarin And Nystasin in almost any pharmacy without a prescription, and they cheap too...
Borac Acid, never heard of it, will check it out when i get the time, let me know...
Boric acid is also considered one of the natural home remedies for thrush in adults. Mix one cup of water with only 1/4 teaspoon, and use this as a mouthwash. Since this is an acid, it should not be swallowed, because it may upset the stomach.
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