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The recipie generally calls for soy lecethin but I have a friend who uses sunflower seed lecithin. Dont know if it matters of not.
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I'm guessing any emulsifier will work.
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We can also report noted effects.
For a 56yo female that has no known health issues presently *once suffered from chronic sinusitis, gallstones, ulcer, migraines, GERD/reflux, IBS and all those and a little bit of melanoma - other than dxd with a multinodular goiter that seems to be behaving itself,

I am now taking the LivOn brand lypo-spheric AGE Blocker as my Vit B complex (contains other nutrients) along with Standard Process B12.

LivOn Lypo-Spheric Vitamin C

LivOn Lypo-Spheric GSH

Added to my carrot/hemp juice in the AM. In the two weeks of beginning this regimen I notice finger/toe nails growing faster and not breaking as badly. Skin is a bit less dry - which is important to me. Still fatigued. I fall asleep easily in front of TV (it's the first chance I get to sit down in the evening around 8pm) - but toss around in bed.

I am certain to NOT take the iodine with the C packet, tho. I need my iodine.
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Old 09-05-2012, 07:52 AM
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I would be taking the highest dosage that the livon company recommends. Vitamin c can kill a lot of pathogens. It can even cure active polio. If after a couple of months of the highest dosage you can do you might consider mms.

Another thought, You might need glutathione with all that is going on with you.. in which case look at the lipsomal c offered at www.letstalkhealth.comm as they offer a lipsomal c a product with glutathione in it. It would be worth a try. Glutathione goes way down in olde folks and during chronic disease.. and yes, 56 is older folks... although I hate to admit it.
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Old 09-05-2012, 08:36 AM
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I am taking all three of the LivOn products I mentioned and the last, the GSH has a bit of B12 in there as Methylcobalamin 10mcg (I boost that with the standard process) and 450 mg of Glutathione *reduced

Mix them into 4oz of pure organic carrot juice, 2 oz of hemp milk and a splash of E3. Shake a bit to mix and gulp it down. It's different. But I like it.

I know Im old. I am also in denial. I want my next 50 to be as healthy as possible.

The issues I posted that I had were being treated with pharmaceuticals and they did not help. Years of antibiotics. Change of docs and change of diet *read Trudeau's book on health in 05 that changed my life for the better. Began detox. Organic. Cleaned up my home and got rid of the toxins. My air. Better supplements and the rest is history. heehee

I improved the sinus problems--to zero problems. The gi problems. Healed my ulcer and my gut. Migraines are maybe two to three a year - compared to the two/three a week back in the day when carbs ruled my diet. I blame them now on geo-engineered weather.

I am missing my gallbladder-damn! Was NOT told what could help me after they stole that.
A little bit of tissue from my upper arm - had THAT surgery under duress.
And I am feeling pretty good for an old lady

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Found an unused ultrasonic cleaner at a garage sale. ($2 ) It was my push to give the liposomal a try. It does taste and smell a bit odd but I do like it. I drink 8 oz. of it in the morning with nothing else in my tummy. My energy has been up and I'm noticing that I've got more desire to be more detail oriented like decorating and doing little projects that I've been putting off. Not sure if it's connected but so far so good.

Arrow, you bought one nice machine. 7 liters is HUGE! How much can you handle a day?

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Old 11-11-2012, 07:08 AM
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Oh no. I didn't get a 7 liter machine, its a 0.7 machine. It makes 2 cups at a time. I generally make 4 cups in one session.


8 ounces is a good dose. I recommend that you take half in the am and half in the pm. It may be just the thing for you. 8 ounces sounds like a large dose but if you have chronic illness it isn't. After a few months you may try cutting down but I do encourage you to keep it up for now. For routine maintenance 1 or 2 ounces a day is good.

I have been advised that using sunflower lecithin tastes quite a bit better but I dont know where to purchase it yet so I haven't tried it.

This is the recipie that I have been using and please note that the recipie is different from the Pdazzler recipie and the vitamin c content will be not quite as strong:

1. Well, I think so since it's all phosphatidylcholine et al. But I try to stay away from unfermented soy myself. The other thing is that the sunflower lecithin is a gooey liquid and you use less of it per recipe AND it tastes a little nutty, like sunflower seeds.

So here is the recipe:

My Perfect Lipo-C recipe --

1. Pour 12 oz distilled water into blender (warm water may be helpful to dissolve lecithin)

2. Add 3 tablespoons Ascorbic Acid powder

3. Add 4 and 1/8 teaspoons Bob's baking soda , giving a little time for foaming to occur between each teaspoon.

4. Stir with chop stick to get foam to go down most of the way

5. Turn blender on for about one minute to completely mix the AA and BS.

6. Check pH with paper strip : perfect 7.0

7. Add 24 oz of distilled water

8. Add 4 tablespoons of Raw Sunflower Lecithin (12 tablespoons of NOW soy lecithin if you are using soy - pdazzler uses 3 tablespoons per fluid cup)

9. Blend for about 3 minutes at various speeds

10. Pour mixture into my ShaperTek Stamina XP 0.7 liter US machine

11. Set timer to 30 minutes and turn on - NO HEAT. Stir with bamboo chopstick occasionally.

12. Pour into 1 liter mineral water bottles and place in frig. (I always have a little more than what will fit, so I drink it!)


----I have been making Lipo-C different ways (including with Soy lecithin) for months now and I have finally perfected it with this recipe. But you can play with the amount of Lecithin, some people would use 3 TBLspns but I think it's to thin. The pH is perfect and there is NEVER any separation or globs at the bottom. It tastes a little nutty and very smooth.

I make 2 batches to drink over course of a week for myself only. I definitely recommend a larger US machine for bigger batches.

Let me know if you have any questions!
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This following is regarding pdazzlers recipie


Here is the pdazzler recipie, the original on the net, I think. The main difference from the above recipie it the quantity of vitamin c and lecithin added. pdazzler says one tablespoon C per cup of fluid while the above recepie is 3 tablespoons per quart.. which is weaker. You might try adding 4 tablespoons instead and see how it goes with the ph strip. https://www.pdazzler.com/archives/62

"This protocol furnishes 12 grams (12000mg.) of Vitamin C Ascorbate per fluid cup. At 70% - 90% encapsulation efficiency, 8400 mg would be of the LET type. This solution will keep, acceptably, at room temperature for 3 to 4 days. Refrigerated, it will keep much longer." This would be 1050mg vitamin c per ounce, which if it goes directly in is a good dose but with very serious illness you would want to take a lot more, frequently throughout the day, or maybe one cup in am and one cup in pm.

Since Encapsulated Vitamin C Ascorbate is reportedly more efficient then intravenous Vitamin C make dosing increases and adjustments slowly paying close attention to your body.

2 oz. of Encapsulated Vitamin C Ascorbate is equals 16 - 20 oz. of intravenous Vitamin C so when you take a couple of 2 oz. doses in a day it’s like taking 16 - 20 oz. in your veins twice during the day. (remember, Intravenous administration of c for cancer or serious virus can be up to 25,000 to 50,000 to 100,000 mg a day)

With cancer you can create a Herxheimer’s effect crisis and overwhelm your body’s ability to dispose of the dead cancer cells if you’re too aggressive in your approach. Point being, start off easy (say a couple of one oz. doses a day) and work up slowly until your body says this is a good level.

Then plan to stay on your therapeutic dose level for a specific short period. Example: a few weeks to 90 days maximum. Treat this supplement much like you would intravenous Vitamin C. Listen to your body and don’t overdo it!
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Oh no. I didn't get a 7 liter machine, its a 0.7 machine. It makes 2 cups at a time. I generally make 4 cups in one session.
- the devil is in the details...

I thought liposomal turned the molecules into nanoparticles to make it more bioavailable but that is not the case. The fat surrounds the vit. C so it somehow is better absorbed. Seems counterintuitive because there is more work for the body to break down the lecithin before it can use the vit. C. Right?

Does anyone know of a technology or chemical reaction that makes particles nanosized? Wonder if we can use a colloidal/ionic silver mechanism to break other substances down to nanosized.....but what?
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2 oz. of Encapsulated Vitamin C Ascorbate is equals 16 - 20 oz. of intravenous Vitamin C so when you take a couple of 2 oz. doses in a day it’s like taking 16 - 20 oz. in your veins twice during the day. (remember, Intravenous administration of c for cancer or serious virus can be up to 25,000 to 50,000 to 100,000 mg a day)

the problem with this information is that we don't know how many miligrams are in one ounce (30ml.) of IV vitamin c. I wonder if its standardized? I'll ask my doc next time I see him.

Actually, mommysunshine, some folks are calling lipsomal C a nano c product.
https://lifextendlabs.com/



According to researchers Hickey and Roberts, repeated doses, and use of a special liposomal form of vitamin C that is absorbed in the gut and then into the liver before it is released into the blood stream, are key to making oral vitamin C therapy effective. Another important factor is to limit the consumption of carbohydrates (refined sugar) which impairs oral absorption of this vitamin.
Dr. John Ely, emeritus professor at the University of Washington, has also shown that sugar depletes vitamin C from white blood cells and makes them sluggish. White blood cells are the very cells that attack tumor cells and destroy them.
The liposomal form of vitamin C employed in this study consists of 1-gram (1000 milligram) dose sachets of vitamin C powder encapsulated in lecithin (phosphatidylcholine), as supplied by Livon Laboratories of Henderson, Nevada, USA.

A British laboratory (Biolab, London) that has conducted thousands of vitamin C assays over a 10-year period, confirms that 20-gram and 36-gram doses of oral vitamin C, as utilized by researchers Hickey and Roberts, achieved far higher blood concentration than had ever been measured previously. Repeated dosing rather than massive single-dose vitamin C averts side effects such as diarrhea.
The cancer cell-killing effect of vitamin C is realized by the transient production of hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) within connective tissues (not in blood), which then destroys tumor cells, and subsequently turns to harmless water (H2O), ensuring non-toxic therapy.
Reluctance by modern medical practitioners to offer vitamin C therapy to their cancer patients suggests the public will have to practice vitamin C therapy at home. This need not be a totally unguided experience, as there are instructive books available.
Why this landmark study has been completely overlooked by the cancer community goes unexplained. The study was published in a journal catalogued by the National Library of Medicine (NLM), but articles from that journal cannot be accessed at the NLM website. When this report was submitted for publication, the publisher of the journal suddenly changed editors and the new editor attempted to scratch the report from its publication schedule altogether. Finally the report did get published, but suddenly the journal itself was discontinued and its articles no longer indexed by NLM. It appears an intentional effort was made to bury this study. An online abstract is provided at the Journal of Nutritional and Environmental Medicine website.
Pharmacokinetics of oral vitamin C
Stephen Hickey1,2†, Hilary J. Roberts3 and Nicholas J. Miller4
  1. Faculty of Computing, Engineering and Technology, Staffordshire University, Staffordshire, UK
  2. School of Biology, Chemistry and Health Science, Manchester Metropolitan University, Manchester, UK
  3. Freelance scientific writer
  4. Biolab Medical Unit, London, UK
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Old 11-26-2012, 10:04 AM
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How long can you store the C in the fridge for??
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I've had it up to two weeks and it seemed fine.
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I stopped making the vit. C. Got out of the habit but plan to make a new batch. It's just not pleasant to drink straight from the refrigerator in the cooler weather. Warm drinks are pleasant now. I suppose I could warm it up slightly before drinking in the dehydrator or just leave it out at room temperature before drinking.

My hubby is wanting me to make some liposomal glutathione.

Anyone done/used this and liked it?

Are there any other nutrients or minerals that benefit from being encapsulated with phospholipids?
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Are there any other nutrients or minerals that benefit from being encapsulated with phospholipids?
Trans resveratrol and curcumin are two very poorly absorbed nutrients that will benefit a great deal in liposomal form, from single digit absorption to as high as 90% absorption, which is quite remarkable.
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Im about to make some lipsomal c today. I think I will add some capsules of Resversatrol to the mix.
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