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so my push towards Green Tea has dropped off.... I'm still drinking the coffee.... and even more so now that I have a new coffee maker...


But I am cutting down on the sugar and slowly trying to get myself used to black coffee. The trick making that good is to get quality. I use whole beans and I am seeking out a local roaster. There's a lot to it, but anyway, yes, I've also heard that coffee has antioxidants as well and I don't think that coffee itself is bad for you. It's the SUGAR that makes it bad for me.
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I have found some brands of organic fare trade coffees taste off with organic stevia. There is an aftertaste quality. I just use less and seems ok. Stevia does take a bit to get used to. Must be certain there is nothing added to the stevia.
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Cold brewed coffee is far less bitter, less acid, and retains the complex flavors that hot brewing boils off into the air. You can still heat your cold brew if you prefer a warm cup o' joe.
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I have found some brands of organic fare trade coffees taste off with organic stevia. There is an aftertaste quality. I just use less and seems ok. Stevia does take a bit to get used to. Must be certain there is nothing added to the stevia.
The somewhat bitter aftertaste of stevia is due to the manufacturer's poor quality production of including more of the stem instead of just the leaf. The leaf will not have such bad aftertaste.
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Ok so the other day I switched to green tea and I was doing ok. Of course the next day I went back to coffee, but only ONE cup this time around. If I feel like having any more, I'll go to the green tea.

Hmm, maybe I *can* do this
I like green tea but I absolutely must have my coffee in the AM!! Why not have the best of both worlds??
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Thanks jfh!

Cold brew sounds good - better for us old folks that still have mercury? I read somewhere that the heat causes the mercury to expand causing tears/breaks in the tooth. Probably just silliness - the theory itself scared me a bit.
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Thanks jfh!

Cold brew sounds good - better for us old folks that still have mercury? I read somewhere that the heat causes the mercury to expand causing tears/breaks in the tooth. Probably just silliness - the theory itself scared me a bit.
Hmm, interesting theory.. However, I don't think the length of exposure you would actually get from drinking coffee would make a huge difference.. Cool down factors, plus, you don't keep piping hot coffee in your mouth for a significant period of time.

I suppose it's "possible" but I don't think it's very "plausible" if that makes any sense.
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Lol, I love your attitude.
I love your style.
I love coffee.


I like coffee poems too: Coffee you so yummy, when you in my tummy, the day turns all sunny, when I move fast like a bunny.

Or --

coffee - I like coffee in a cup
I love it so much I drink it up,
be it organic and only fare trade
grown on a hill in the shade.


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mmmmmmm - morning, new - bright
coffee.
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Thank you Green! You have fabulous taste!

(Coffee also makes me silly first thing in the morning. No one here at home appreciates my fineness)
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Thank you Green! You have fabulous taste!

(Coffee also makes me silly first thing in the morning. No one here at home appreciates my fineness)
LOL.. People at home don't appreciate it when I don't get my morning green tea, I get all stressed out..

To each their own I guess
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Oh gee. I just read this now regarding coffee and vision loss. Although the test bed could be biased toward the culture/lifestyle of the testers.

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ScienceDaily (Oct. 3, 2012) � A new study suggests caffeinated coffee drinkers should limit their intake to reduce their chances of developing vision loss or blindness. According to a scientific paper in Investigative Ophthalmology & Visual Science, heavy caffeinated coffee consumption is associated with an increased risk of developing exfoliation glaucoma, the leading cause of secondary glaucoma worldwide.

The study, The Relation between Caffeine and Coffee Consumption and Exfoliation Glaucoma or Glaucoma Suspect: A Prospective Study in Two Cohorts, is the first to examine the link between caffeinated coffee and exfoliation glaucoma in a U.S. -based population.

"Scandinavian populations have the highest frequencies of exfoliation syndrome and glaucoma," said author, Jae Hee Kang, ScD, of Channing Division of Network Medicine at Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston, Mass. "Because Scandinavian populations also have the highest consumption of caffeinated coffee in the world, and our research group has previously found that greater caffeinated coffee intake was associated with increased risk of primary open-angle glaucoma, we conducted this study to evaluate whether the risk of exfoliation glaucoma or glaucoma suspect may be different by coffee consumption."

The study was composed of two cohorts: 78,977 women from the Nurses' Health Study (NHS) and 41,202 men from the Health Professionals Follow-up Study (HPFS) who were at least 40 years of age, did not have glaucoma and reported undergoing eye examinations from 1980 (for NHS participants) and 1986 (for HPFS participants) to 2008. The research team used questionnaires to obtain and validate the consumption of beverages containing caffeine and reviewed medical records to determine incident cases of exfoliation glaucoma, which contributes to elevated pressure sufficient enough to damage the optic nerve, or exfoliation glaucoma suspect that have milder or only suspect optic nerve damage.

A meta-analysis of the two cohorts showed that, compared to abstainers, participants who drank three cups or more of caffeinated coffee daily were at an increased risk of developing exfoliation glaucoma or glaucoma suspect. The researchers did not find associations with consumption of other caffeinated products, such as soda, tea, chocolate or decaffeinated coffee. The results also showed that women with a family history of glaucoma were at an increased risk.

Kang, along with his colleagues, report that this study represents a much needed effort to better understand the causes of exfoliation glaucoma, which are largely unknown.

"Because this is the first study to evaluate the association between caffeinated coffee and exfoliation glaucoma in a U.S. population, confirmation of these results in other populations would be needed to lend more credence to the possibility that caffeinated coffee might be a modifiable risk factor for glaucoma," said Kang. "It may also lead to research into other dietary or lifestyle factors as risk factors.
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Oh gee. I just read this now regarding coffee and vision loss. Although the test bed could be biased toward the culture/lifestyle of the testers.

So, what you're saying is that the Hipsters of the 1950s all wore dark glasses for that reason?

I guess it's another reason to be a hippie, get the best of both worlds. Enjoy your coffee, and then smoke a bowl to help fend off vision issues.
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I was drinking tea until I found our it has 4-10 times as much fluoride as fluoridated water. Even green teas. I am back to coffee and each week I used a little less sugar in my coffee until I am down to zero sugar -- and now I don't miss it.
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I was drinking tea until I found our it has 4-10 times as much fluoride as fluoridated water. Even green teas. I am back to coffee and each week I used a little less sugar in my coffee until I am down to zero sugar -- and now I don't miss it.

Well, something can be said for that.. But also this:

https://www.bodyandsoul.com.au/health...r+coffeer,9861

So you see, things can be found in the coffee too I guess you need to just grow your own, or make 100% sure it's organic, and then actually visit the farm to quality check it....
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Thanks jfh!

Cold brew sounds good - better for us old folks that still have mercury? I read somewhere that the heat causes the mercury to expand causing tears/breaks in the tooth. Probably just silliness - the theory itself scared me a bit.

My dentist claims the mercury is less than a can of tuna. Not even going down that road.

I did read somewhere that the mercury dissipates relatively quickly, so old amalgam fillings shouldn't be worried about in that manner.
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