I don't want to let this break me!!! so what is my fun just suppose to be over?? I now have to live the quiet life??...NO!! I refuse to let this change me..I want to be myself. I have not really been smoking herb I aint really been drinking ( not a real big drinker anyways maybe two or three drinks on fri-sat )for almost two months and it bothers me I dont feel like me this sh*t is on my mind most all the time I wish I could just go back to ignoring it like I have been doing for the last seven yrs. On top of that I wonder should I even be stressing it so hard is it all for not as I read these diffrent sites I hear men saying they have had this 15 20 12 years.... can I beat this??... the doctors are clueless what makes me think I can do this on my own. To be trueful I'm a tad bit scared that I will have this for life and if so will it get worse..I have not seen not even one person on this site say that they had it and now they don't
I do have a friend who had it did one month on cipro and its gone came back year or two later cipro and again its gone..cipro did nothing for me except maybe make it worse doxy was just as bad
I dont know what to cut out my diet sh*t my diet is already limited!!!!
I dont drink much so its hard for me to think thats whats keeping me ill I've had this long before I started working out so thats not it. After my B-DAY next month I'm going to stop smoking for thirty days and see will that make a diffrence I doubt it but it worth a try. I love working out so Im NOT going to stop... besides I look great so its working. I was over weight and out of shape for atleast seven yrs I will not go back to that...........I guess it is what it is!!
agreed moxsum. i was partly curious if i would get worse thinking i may have food allergies or intolerence and that being the answer i was looking for and on the other wanting some sort of normalsy that i have been missing. so many people have no issues with diet. if that is my issue it came on fast and hard so i am doubting it.
why? i hope we all find our answers. i was sure then unsure if massage makes a difference but now i seem to get more blood flow and hanging of the testes after a massage.
i am still taking allicin 12 a day. almost finished sulfa trim (abx) sad it doeasnt look like its curing. bio k very expensive probiotics. zinc. selenium. pau d'arco. pumpkin seeds raw. magnesium. oxicocet. herbal tonic with gold seal etc...
i have had some relief as you guys know i was in bad shape. i am active now and have less chronic fatigue.
i still have some secreations. pain in the prostate. bladder and stomach aches and nausea. my testes seem at times if i dont ejaculate daily. they seem heavier and swollen. jofus that is a few similarities we share. those too make me think there maybe an infection. the large doses of magnesium seem to relieve pain and relax the tensity of the aches and intensity of the muscels along with the humbling massage.
the gluten test starts this week and my nd says for a month. it has been 85% already but here it goes again.
would love to hear someone out there in all the forums - sites that has been through this and is cured or it is way under control.
good luck guys. i am glad there is a group (of us) trying to help each other and trying to make a difference. it is the only way we can get an edge up. good work.
i am still taking allicin 12 a day. almost finished sulfa trim (abx) sad it doeasnt look like its curing. bio k very expensive probiotics. zinc. selenium. pau d'arco. pumpkin seeds raw. magnesium. oxicocet. herbal tonic with gold seal etc...
Good for you on the pau d'arco. That should help considerably.
Something else you might try daily for a while.
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Cat's claw (Uncaria tomentosa or Una do Gato) is a medicinal herb from the Amazon River basin that is widely used for inflammatory disorders. Cat's claw contains gluco indole alkaloids. This herb is promoted as having anti-cancer, anti-inflammatory, and for arthritis. In the traditional Peruvian medicine, hot aqueous extracts have been used for the treatment of a wide range of health problems, particularly digestive complaints and arthritis. What does the research say?
Potential benefit of cat's claw herb and research studies
Anti-inflammatory benefit Cat's claw is a remarkably potent inhibitor of TNFalpha production. The primary mechanism for cat's claw anti-inflammatory actions appears to be immunomodulation via suppression of TNFalpha synthesis. TNF stands for tumor necrosis factor. Cat's claw inhibits TNFalpha production and scavenges free radicals: role in cytoprotection.
Free Radic Biol Med. 2000 Jul 1;29(1):71-8.
Antioxidant Cat's claw is an effective antioxidant. Antioxidant properties of proanthocyanidins of Uncaria tomentosa bark decoction: a mechanism for anti-inflammatory activity. Phytochemistry. 2005 Jan;66(1):89-98.
Decoctions prepared from the bark of Uncaria tomentosa are widely used in the traditional Peruvian medicine for the treatment of several diseases, in particular as a potent anti-inflammatory agent. Therefore, the main purpose of this study was to determine if the well-known anti-inflammatory activity of cat's claw decoction was related with its reactivity with the oxidant species generated in the inflammatory process and to establish a relationship between such antioxidant ability and its phenolic composition. We observed that the cat's claw decoction prepared according to the traditional Peruvian medicine presented a potent radical scavenger activity, as suggested by its high capacity to reduce the free radical diphenylpicrylhydrazyl, and by its reaction with superoxide anion, peroxyl and hydroxyl radicals as well as with the oxidant species, hydrogen peroxide and hypochlorous acid. The phenolic profile shows the presence of proanthocyanidins (oligomeric procyanidins) and phenolic acids, mainly caffeic acid.
Antitumor
Cat's claw extracts exert a direct anti-proliferative activity on MCF7 (a breast cancer cell line).
Arthritis
This plant is an effective treatment for osteoarthritis and probably rheumatoid arthritis (see bottom of page). The species, U guianensis and U tomentosa are equiactive. They are effective antioxidants, but their anti-inflammatory properties may result from their ability to inhibit TNFalpha and to a lesser extent PGE2 production.
Cancer prevention An extract of Uncaria tomentosa inhibiting cell division and NF-kappa B activity without inducing cell death. Int Immunopharmacol. 2003 Dec;3(13-14):1889-900.
Previous reports have demonstrated that extracts of the plant Uncaria tomentosa inhibit tumor cell proliferation and inflammatory responses. We have confirmed that cat's claw C-Med 100, a hot water extract of this plant, inhibits tumor cell proliferation albeit with variable efficiency. We extend these findings by showing that this extract also inhibits proliferation of normal mouse T and B lymphocytes and that the inhibition is not caused by toxicity or by induction of apoptosis. We provide direct evidence that cat's claw C-Med 100 inhibits nuclear factor kappa B (NF-kappa B) activity and propose that this at least partially causes the inhibition of proliferation.
DNA repair Human volunteers who took cat's claw herb for 8 weeks had improved DNA repair. DNA repair enhancement of aqueous extracts of Uncaria tomentosa in a human volunteer study.
Phytomedicine. 2001 Jul;8(4):275-82.
The Uncaria tomentosa water extracts (cat's claw, C-Med-100) have been shown to enhance DNA repair, mitogenic response and leukocyte recovery after chemotherapy-induced DNA damage in vivo. In this study, the effect of cat's claw C-Med-100 supplement was evaluated in a human volunteer study. Twelve apparently healthy adults working in the same environment were randomly assigned into 3 groups with age and gender matched. One group was daily supplemented with a 250 mg tablet containing an aqueous extract of cat's claw, and another group with a 350 mg tablet, for 8 consecutive weeks. DNA repair after induction of DNA damage by a standard dose of hydrogen peroxide was measured 3 times before supplement and 3 times after the supplement for the last 3 weeks of the 8 week-supplement period. There were no drug-related toxic responses to cat's claw supplement when judged in terms of clinical symptoms, serum clinical chemistry, whole blood analysis and leukocyte differential counts. There was a statistically significant decrease of DNA damage and a concomitant increase of DNA repair in the supplement groups (250 and 350 mg/day) when compared with non-supplemented controls. There was also an increased tendency of PHA induced lymphocyte proliferation in the treatment groups. Taken together, this trial has confirmed the earlier results obtained in the rat model when estimating DNA repair enhancement by cat's claw.
Immune system influence In vitro effects of two extracts and two pure alkaloid preparations of Uncaria tomentosa on peripheral blood mononuclear cells. Planta Med. 2004 Mar;70(3):205-10.
Some of the beneficial effects of cat's claw observed in patients suggest an immunomodulatory capacity. In this study, the effects of two cat's claw extracts and two mixtures of tetracyclic and pentacyclic oxindole alkaloids were investigated in freshly isolated human peripheral blood mononuclear cells (PBMC) stimulated with the mitogens phytohaemagglutinin (PHA) and concanavalin A (Con A) in vitro. These data demonstrate that cat's claw extracts and mixtures of alkaloids modulate the immunobiochemical pathways induced by interferon-gamma. The findings imply a potential application of the cat's claw extracts as immunoregulators and would be in line with observations in patients using these extracts.
Memory Cat's claw herb total alkaloids exert a beneficial effect on memory impairment induced by the dysfunction of cholinergic systems in the brain and that the effect of the total alkaloids is partly attributed to the oxindole alkaloids tested.
Rheumatoid arthritis
Randomized double blind trial of an extract from the pentacyclic alkaloid-chemotype of uncaria tomentosa for the treatment of rheumatoid arthritis.
J Rheumatol. 2002 Apr;29(4):678-81.
To evaluate safety and clinical efficacy of a plant extract from the pentacyclic chemotype of Uncaria tomentosa (cat's claw) in patients with active rheumatoid arthritis. Forty patients undergoing sulfasalazine or hydroxychloroquine treatment were enrolled in a randomized 52 week study. During the first phase (24 weeks, double blind, placebo controlled), patients were treated with cats claw extract or placebo. In the second phase (28 weeks) all patients received the plant extract. Twenty-four weeks of treatment with the cats claw extract resulted in a reduction of the number of painful joints compared to placebo (by 53% vs 24%). Patients receiving the cat's claw extract only during the second phase experienced a reduction in the number of painful and swollen joints and the Ritchie Index compared to the values after 24 weeks of placebo. Only minor side effects were observed. This small preliminary study demonstrates relative safety and modest benefit to the tender joint count of a highly purified extract from cat's claw in patients with active rheumatoid arthritis taking sulfasalazine or hydroxychloroquine. https://www.raysahelian.com/catsclaw.html
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I have started pau d'arco tea as well as herbamite tea. Since the begining of my symptoms, my testicles have been red and hanging lower than usual.
Have you had a culture done of your prostate fluid, if not you should try and get one. I would ask for it to be cultured for both bacteria and fungus.
I am also going to be making my own silver water right away, and hopefully that helps.
Last night I drank for the first time since my problems started for a work function, and actually drank quite a bit. I was expecting my symptoms to be worse today, but they actually seemed better, not sure what that means if anything, but I thought I would put it out there.
thanks jofus. what did you drink beer? did you get a pos test for bacteria or fungus? i cant remember what your status was. i have had 1 dre test countless swabbings all the say is high white blood cell count. so still a missing puzzle piece. boners are rare and i usualy take cialis for sex not all the time. i was a very easy guy so there is something at play. libido was go for a long while.
i wish there was a test these jerks did for semen cultures. that would i believe answer more questions and doubts. havent found a doc yet.
can they really test for fungus that way too??
what about parasites? wouldnt the stuff we are doing kill those too?
Yeah they can do a culture for fungus too, I read somewhere that it sometimes has to be cultured longer. I haven't had mine done yet, I just found a new doc, so going through the motions with him at the moment. Unfortuneatley we may have to go to a few doctors before we find one that is openminded enough to go a little outside the box. I don't even know if what I am going through is prostatitis, but I have quite a few simmilar symptoms. I have no problems with erections, or libido except when I first had symptoms, but I think it was mostly due to the fact I had no idea what was going on and I thought my nuts might be falling off. My ejaculate does seem smaller than normal and doesn't shoot out like it did before.
I drank mostly beer last night, and I drank enough that for the first time I forgot about my problem and actually had fun.
Basically everything that I am doing is trying to boost my own immune system, eat foods that have anti-bacterial, anti-fungal, and anti-viral properties, and eat foods that help the body get rid of waste, toxins, and help rebuild. I imagine all this would help with parasites. I have been using curry and garlic quite a bit. I am ordering some cayenne capsules and bilberry extract tonight. Those two things help with circulation, which can only help. I have been basically throwing everything I can at it. If there is any postive in this, its that I will not take my health for granted ever again, and my body should be in a lot better shape from here on out.
i hear you on all counts. there is good in this somewhere. you dont truly know good if you dont know bad. beer.. that may help. my nuts kill at times and the pecker seems sore at times. not like before. i thought the testicals was from lack of circulation but now they are loose not tight and hurting. have you had pain up by the belly botton?
hey thanks jfh i will look into getting some cats claw. i seem to be on a roll and under the blessing these days. glad to add anything to my attack.
i still have pian in the perineum prostate and feels like the bladder testicals and prostate pus or secreations. its a damn shame but the fight goes on.
I ordered up some cat's claw yesterday, sounds like good stuff.
Any of you guys get the feeling that you need to urinate, even when you don't need to or can't. This is happening to me, espcially at night. Last night it felt like I had to go, but everytime I got up to go, I couldn't, and didnt feel like I had to anymore. When I laid back down to bed, the feeling came back. By the time I actually did go, it was 3am, and my volume was not very much.
I am getting real worried, I don't unrinate very much amount when I go, and it gets foamy. I haven't had a good pee in a while now. All I drink is water all day. Does anyone else notice this?
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