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IR equipment doesn't see through walls, sorry.

Been using IR equipment for two decades.

Hmmm... Not sure then... Here's something "low tech" compared to what I saw.. But I can't seem to find the videos now.. Looks like they were removed.. The guns that had sights that could see through walls.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bhj8fyWZE_o

I'm not sure, I always thought they were heat signatures... But I don't know...
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Hmmm... Not sure then... Here's something "low tech" compared to what I saw.. But I can't seem to find the videos now.. Looks like they were removed.. The guns that had sights that could see through walls.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bhj8fyWZE_o

I'm not sure, I always thought they were heat signatures... But I don't know...

Radar maybe?

X-ray works by having film on the other side, and then the medium blocks part of the waves, leaving us with an image.

We see light, for the most part, as a reflection off of something with the light source being separate. Sometimes we see the source directly, like an LCD or LED.

IR is detected directly from the source, like an LED; The source is radiating heat.

So, if I'm in the center of a room, room temp is 70 degrees, my skin temp is 85 degrees and the wall has an R factor of 36, how can my body put a signature on the outside of the wall?

By scanning me IN the room with the IR camera, you're going to find that about a foot away from me the temperature gradient is back down to 72 degrees, with no noticeable profile two feet away. So again, where is the temp gradient on the wall going to change?

Even a Cray Supercomputer cannot turn an optical (visible spectrum light) into an IR, x-ray, radar or any other kind of receptor.

This would be like putting an ECU for a helicopter into your car and going for a flight.
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Radar maybe?

X-ray works by having film on the other side, and then the medium blocks part of the waves, leaving us with an image.

We see light, for the most part, as a reflection off of something with the light source being separate. Sometimes we see the source directly, like an LCD or LED.

IR is detected directly from the source, like an LED; The source is radiating heat.

So, if I'm in the center of a room, room temp is 70 degrees, my skin temp is 85 degrees and the wall has an R factor of 36, how can my body put a signature on the outside of the wall?

By scanning me IN the room with the IR camera, you're going to find that about a foot away from me the temperature gradient is back down to 72 degrees, with no noticeable profile two feet away. So again, where is the temp gradient on the wall going to change?

Even a Cray Supercomputer cannot turn an optical (visible spectrum light) into an IR, x-ray, radar or any other kind of receptor.

This would be like putting an ECU for a helicopter into your car and going for a flight.
Could have been... Either way you slice it, it is extremely weird that the video can no longer be found... And it used to be a very popular video with a huge following actually.. And it has just gone "poof" which is a real feat on the internet....
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Hey - how about a phone that can bring rain to severe drought areas? Stop floods? Cure disease safely? FEED PEOPLE REAL FOOD? STOP GREED AND POWER HUNGRY IDIOTS? No. See thru walls - what the _^@%? I wonder if lead could stop these phones?


https://www.popsci.com/technology/art...-through-walls Terahertz scanners could potentially see through walls, inside pockets and into wallets, but they're either large and expensive, or contain high-powered nanolasers that limit their use. Now a Texas team has a new approach that could use everyday mobile phones, making terahertz-band scanners simple and ubiquitous.


New Research Could Mean Cellphones That Can See Through Walls

Team Finds New Possibilities in Untapped Terahertz Range With Implications For a Host of Devices

Apr. 18, 2012

Dr. Kenneth O, director of the Texas Analog Center of Excellence and a professor of electrical engineering, left, worked with a team including Dae Yeon Kim, who was among the authors of the research report.

Comic book hero superpowers may be one step closer to reality after the latest technological feats made by researchers at UT Dallas. They have designed an imager chip that could turn mobile phones into devices that can see through walls, wood, plastics, paper and other objects.https://www.utdallas.edu/news/2012/4...icle-wide.html
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New Research Could Mean Cellphones That Can See Through Walls

Team Finds New Possibilities in Untapped Terahertz Range With Implications For a Host of Devices

Apr. 18, 2012

Dr. Kenneth O, director of the Texas Analog Center of Excellence and a professor of electrical engineering, left, worked with a team including Dae Yeon Kim, who was among the authors of the research report.

Comic book hero superpowers may be one step closer to reality after the latest technological feats made by researchers at UT Dallas. They have designed an imager chip that could turn mobile phones into devices that can see through walls, wood, plastics, paper and other objects.https://www.utdallas.edu/news/2012/4...icle-wide.html

How does a microchip change the optical properties of wood?
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Not buying it. :shrug:
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Only concrete:

This crazy guy (Greg Charvat, MIT) claims his little invention can assist the urban war fighter. There seems to be much r/d going on to get something to see inside. Practically breaking their necks to get it going. What urban wars are going to be waged, I wonder. I do know that Social Security is well stocked with hollow point bullets.

Blobs today, little crosses or squares tomorrow (Or detect RFIDs?)

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This crazy guy (Greg Charvat, MIT) claims his little invention can assist the urban war fighter. There seems to be much r/d going on to get something to see inside. Practically breaking their necks to get it going. What urban wars are going to be waged, I wonder. I do know that Social Security is well stocked with hollow point bullets.

Blobs today, little crosses or squares tomorrow (Or detect RFIDs?)

-https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=H5xmo7iJ7KA
Yep....

Definitely something to ponder.. I do believe we are witnessing the beginning of what is to be the NWO.

How long it takes to implement? I'm guessing another few centuries.

I mean, sure the chip will be mandated in the US, one sure fire way to make sure someone is an American citizen. I can't see Canada following suit any time soon. Europe will be the first I think, actually, some countries already do put chips into their debit/credit cards, and passports (I think Denmark was the country that had the chip in the passport...)
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I think your a bit behind the times.

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Yep....

How long it takes to implement? I'm guessing another few centuries.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybKSwuIHvL8

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I mean, sure the chip will be mandated in the US, one sure fire way to make sure someone is an American citizen. I can't see Canada following suit any time soon. Europe will be the first I think, actually, some countries already do put chips into their debit/credit cards, and passports (I think Denmark was the country that had the chip in the passport...)
All American passports issued in the past 5 years have had a chip in them.

https://travel.state.gov/passport/passport_2788.html

Over 100 countries issue Biometric passports at present and it is projected that by 2017 over 90% of countries will have them.

https://globalpapersecurity.com/100-c...epassports.htm

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I do believe we are witnessing the beginning of what is to be the NWO.
Doesn't seem inconceivable at all.
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That might be too costly. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT. If it is in the arm, what if an earthquake topples a building on a guy going to the store for cereal for his kids and this very tall heavy building smashes everything to dust but THE ONE ARM. Then, some type of large wild animal(s) FIND the arm and carry it back to their home for grilling/supper ?

How in the heck is any identification going to be done with RFID now?

If perhaps, for some reason, lets say the ulna gets lodged in the wild wolfy type animal's throat (no one is there to perform heimlich) - he passes away but the RFID locator finds him listed as the dad?

The poor family would have to identify the animal as dad and be responsible for the funeral? Can you imagine the poor kids looking down at dear old dad in the casket and seeing a hairy wolf type? Might be cool, tho. They could then tell friends at school their "weredad" went back to his wolf form after his death.

But then, who contacts the next of kin for the wolf?

PS Maybe dad wasn't smashed to dust...maybe he has amnesia and is now living with the wolf family?! This would be sad.

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That might be too costly. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT. If it is in the arm, what if an earthquake topples a building on a guy going to the store for cereal for his kids and this very tall heavy building smashes everything to dust but THE ONE ARM. Then, some type of large wild animal(s) FIND the arm and carry it back to their home for grilling/supper ?

How in the heck is any identification going to be done with RFID now?

If perhaps, for some reason, lets say the ulna gets lodged in the wild wolfy type animal's throat (no one is there to perform heimlich) - he passes away but the RFID locator finds him listed as the dad?

The poor family would have to identify the animal as dad and be responsible for the funeral? Can you imagine the poor kids looking down at dear old dad in the casket and seeing a hairy wolf type? Might be cool, tho. They could then tell friends at school their "weredad" went back to his wolf form after his death.

But then, who contacts the next of kin for the wolf?

PS Maybe dad wasn't smashed to dust...maybe he has amnesia and is now living with the wolf family?! This would be sad.

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Daaaaamn... Never even thought of that.. But it's a point.

Say loses his arm, and has amnesia, no way to track him down, or prove who he is..

Or if he loses the arm in say a battlefield, and goes back to the army base.. But can't get in because he needs it to ID himself... He survives only to be shot and killed by the guards on duty as he doesn't have a chip....

Scary crap indeed....

Oh well... No stopping progress, we just need to go with the flow, and hope somehow the craziness works itself out lol...
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The simple answer is everything can be put on on a chip these days including iris scans, fingerprints,dental records and DNA which will no doubt be duplicated on goodness only knows how many government computors. Most chips today can hold up to 200 A4 pages of data,this would ensure that even if the only thing left of you was a fingernail or an eyebrow they could still identify you.

I think you might be better talking about whether you are going to accept it or not and what plans you have made to survive if you refuse the eventual Mark required to buy and sell.
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The simple answer is everything can be put on on a chip these days including iris scans, fingerprints,dental records and DNA which will no doubt be duplicated on goodness only knows how many government computors. Most chips today can hold up to 200 A4 pages of data,this would ensure that even if the only thing left of you was a fingernail or an eyebrow they could still identify you.

I think you might be better talking about whether you are going to accept it or not and what plans you have made to survive if you refuse the eventual Mark required to buy and sell.
Yes, I guess... But who's going to take the time to sort out the fingernails or eyebrows? lol...

Well, it's not going to be a decision we will need to make soon. They said 2020? So it will become total reality around 2050... Are you going to be around in 2050? I'd be 64 by then.. Crap.. OK, so I guess I would have to take it, too old at that point to fight back...
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