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Anyone recommend a good place in the UK, online, where I could get magnesium? I'm looking for a dosage of around 700mg a day. Thanks
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I use IHERB in USA they are very fast and offer cheap shipping.
Last ordered Monday March 28 , 2011 12:01pm
delivered Wednesday 3/30/2011 9:54 am
See Post in this thread for suggested types of magnesium and a links to the reasons why.

If you look at the major UK vitamin sources
Holland and Barrett. Magnesium OXIDE 200 Caplets 250mg �9.79 BUT 4% of 250= 10mg magnesium bioavailable the rest stays in the colon absorbs water and softens your stools. Good if you need runny stools BAD if you want to replenish your magnesium stores.

Zipvit Magnesium OXIDE 500mg 360 14.99 at least you get double the magnesium but each tablet is only going to provide 20mg of magnesium absorption.
Simply supplements (360) �9.99 don't say what form of magnesium. You could email them but at that price I'm sure is oxide so don't waste your time. If ever you do want anything from Simply supplements (their triple strength omega 3 is molecularly distilled and the glucosamine is a good price go through Quidco. as you get a 27% cashback it's a cosher site as the recommendation comes from Martin Lewis Moneysaving Expert dot com.

Amazon uk have a company selling Doctor's Best, High Absorption Magnesium, 240 Tablets for �19.95 free delivery. but they're $17.17 (�10.73) from IHERB so cheaper from USA.

Amazon also list Solgar, Chelated Magnesium, 100 Tablets �8 but you could get 250 of the same from IHERB for (�12.45) but as each tablet has only 100mg magnesium these again are not such a good buy.

On ebay someone is selling Source Naturals Magnesium Chelate 100 mg 250 Tab �11.52 but I'm they aren't ALBION patent so MAY not be as good as the Dr Best but about the same price. so possibly as good value.

You can see why I stick with IHERB they don't call us rip of Britain for no good reason.
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Thanks, a lot. Really appreciate your effort
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Could I just ask your opinion of the magnesium citrate from Holland & Barrett, as that's the one I'm actually currently using?

Could I also just ask as well if you think it's worth me trying to double up my intake to 600-700mg, or is the 300mg I'm getting right now okay?

Thanks, so much.
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In my humble opinion, I believe that magnesium malate is superior. It is magnesium bound with malic acid. I think magnesium citrate is second best. It is magnesium bound with citric acid. Each of these acids will help the body absorb the magnesium and contribute to your health as well.

Here is one that I favor from the vendor addressed by Ted. https://www.iherb.com/Source-Naturals...lets/1444?at=0

Check out the tremendous health benefits of malic acid. https://www.ehow.com/about_5411002_ma...-benefits.html
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Dudes, you're gonna make my head explode

I just want to know where to get some magnesium, and how much to take, in the hope it'll help my Tinnitus
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Could I just ask your opinion of the magnesium citrate from Holland & Barrett, as that's the one I'm actually currently using?
If you look at the Afibbers Guide Magnesium you see that
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Magnesium citrate contains 80 mg of elemental magnesium per 500 mg tablet. It is far better absorbed than is magnesium oxide.
However the H&B caplets contain 100mg magnesium citrate so that is a fifth of 80mg just 16mg magnesium per caplet will be absorbed.

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Could I also just ask as well if you think it's worth me trying to double up my intake to 600-700mg, or is the 300mg I'm getting right now okay?

Thanks, so much.
The 300mg magnesium citrate you are taking yeilds 48mg magnesium absorbed.
My Krispin-RDA is a total of 500-700 mg that's about 30 of those capsules daily to produce 480mg magnesium absorbed.
I'm not sure that terribly economical. You may as well use them up but really you'd be better getting a magnesium chelate that provides 100mg absorbed magnesium.

If you want to stick with the magnesium citrate IHERB have Now Foods, Magnesium Citrate, 200 mg, 250 Tablets $12.73 (�7.96)
that compares well with
�6.39 for 100 x 100mg from H&B double the magnesium, more than double the amount for not much difference in price.

or you can follow Dr Davis advice I generally advise supplementation with the well-absorbed forms, magnesium glycinate (400 mg twice per day) or magnesium malate (1200 mg twice per day).

If you want to consider the malate that Dr D suggests
Now Foods, Magnesium Malate, 1000 mg, 180 Tablets from Iherb $10.18 (�6.36) if you took one of those with each meal you'd end up with 450mg magnesium inside you which isn't bad lot better than the 48mg from the current 300mg citrate.

You can see why people end up trying magnesium oil and soaking in magnesium chloride/magnesium sulphate baths try to get round the problems with oral supplements. Hope I haven't confused you too much.
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No, you didn't confuse me, that's very good info. Thanks, so much
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Sorry, one final thing. Which one do you buy then, Ted, and how much Magnesium does this provide you? Thanks, again.
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Sorry, one final thing. Which one do you buy then, Ted, and how much Magnesium does this provide you? Thanks, again.
I was answering a question on another forum so thought the answer would be also be relevant here.
Magnesium citrate - 200 mg I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings but that doesn't mean 200mg magnesium Magnesium citrate contains 80 mg of elemental magnesium per 500 mg tablet.
so that is 16mg per 100mg = 32mg available magnesium in a 200mg magnesium citrate.
200 mg magnesium chloride with a bioavailability I think around 12% from memory so that gives you another 24mg. It's the same availability as magnesium lactate.

So actually because of the bioavailability of magnesium from citrate and chloride you're actually only getting 56mg daily magnesium extra from supplements.
You'd do better with chelates.
To be honest I use all forms of supplementation possible, I take chelates, I drink magnesium bicarbonate water, I bathe in magnesium chloride and eat as many food sources as possible.

Bear in mind that bodies that are deficient in magnesium absorb higher amounts of fluoride and iron. Both of these are neurotoxins. They not only make you less intelligent but also worsen your memory but there's worse to come
Watch this video and you'll understand why.
Magnesium Chloride

I've been using both Doctor's Best, High Absorption Magnesium,
Bluebonnet Nutrition, Chelated Magnesium, 180 Veggie Caps
as Iherb turn over their stock very rapidly and sometimes run out of one or other.
It may also be worth trying so IONIC MAGNESIUM Iherb have a good selection. My code at IHERB is WAB666 for a $5 introductory discount. I use them as they are very fast delivery and cheap shipping to UK.
If price is a problem then Natures Made Nature's Life, Magnesium Malate, 1300 mg is relatively cost effective.
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Many thanks, again. I'll be glad when I have all my supplements and can be done with all this searching

Could I just pick your brain on one final thing? How much B12 do I need? I've been on Iherb but there's about a hundred different things. Could you possibly suggest the best B12 supplement? I don't think I'm deficient in B12, I just want to load up on it as I've read it helps Tinnitus.

And same question with Zinc, really. I know that too high a dose can be bad with this vitamin, but I'd like to get as much as I can. I'm already getting 10mg a day from my multivitamin.

Again, thanks, so much, if you have the time to help. I never knew the variety of choice when it comes to this stuff, and it's stressful scouring the web.
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Diabetes and Tinnitus
You may find that once you get your magnesium status restored your body is less insulin resistant.
We Know Hearing Loss is linked to Alzheimer's and dysfunction in glucose metabolism is implicated in both
If you read my blog on the danger of high carbohydrate intake and the risk of dementia you will know why I enjoy a low carbohydrate diet.
As for B12 I use
Pure Advantage, B-12, 500 mcg Spray, 1 fl oz from Iherb (though you may find it cheaper elsewhere but if you're in the UK Iherb are cheaper for shipping.

I'm not sure it's necessary to use it daily. But if you find it makes a difference then it will be worth it.

PS Thanks to kind2creatures for the Now foods Swansons link great for US readers as iherb are more expensive $7.63 UK readers though will find the cheaper IHERB shipping cost to UK affects total cost. Just realized the mention of magnesium without stearate is a different thread.
I wonder if it would be sensible to merge the magnesium threads as it would be a pity if people miss information that is in one thread that isn't in the other and it's time consuming duplicating posts in both threads?
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Thanks

And final thoughts on Zinc?
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It's a difficult business making general recommendations when we cannot be certain to what extend people are suffering deficiency or excess.
Magnesium deficiency tends to cause increased absorption of other metals.
Mg deficiency significantly increased iron (Fe), copper (Cu), zinc (Zn), gallium (Ga), yttrium (Y), zirconium (Zr), molybdenum (Mo), rhodium (Rh), silver (Ag), and barium (Ba) concentrations

But because of modern wheat breeding we are generally getting less magnesium, zinc and copper than previously.
To what extent the changes in wheat are replicated in other modern foods I'm not sure.

Food sources

Nutritional Data Zinc food sources

If looking at the above you still think that you may be short I'd suggest
Jarrow Formulas, Zinc Balance, 15 mg, 100 Capsules $7.77 (�4.84)as it balances the ratio of zinc to copper.
Don't forget new Iherb users can save $5 with code WAB666.
I use Iherb because their total cost including shipping to UK is cheapest
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It's a difficult business making general recommendations when we cannot be certain to what extend people are suffering deficiency or excess.
Magnesium deficiency tends to cause increased absorption of other metals.
Mg deficiency significantly increased iron (Fe), copper (Cu), zinc (Zn), gallium (Ga), yttrium (Y), zirconium (Zr), molybdenum (Mo), rhodium (Rh), silver (Ag), and barium (Ba) concentrations

But because of modern wheat breeding we are generally getting less magnesium, zinc and copper than previously.
To what extent the changes in wheat are replicated in other modern foods I'm not sure.

Food sources

Nutritional Data Zinc food sources

If looking at the above you still think that you may be short I'd suggest
Jarrow Formulas, Zinc Balance, 15 mg, 100 Capsules $7.77 (�4.84)as it balances the ratio of zinc to copper.
Don't forget new Iherb users can save $5 with code WAB666.
I use Iherb because their total cost including shipping to UK is cheapest
Thanks, again, mate
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