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Question Baking Soda Effect on Supplements/Herbs

Sometimes at night, I take 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda for heartburn (or heartburn prevention). Does taking soda close to melatonin or herbs have a negative effect on their actions/absorption?
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I do that on rare occasions for kidney pain or inflammation, or something in that area, like liver. Anyway I only need 1/4 teaspoon in small glass of water. It take 15 minutes to clear the problem.

Remember that baking soda is very alkaline. Digestion requires acid. So herbs will not digest. Will not be available to the body. I don't know about melatonin. It is a hormone. It may do its thing in the small intestines. I don't know about probiotics. They probably appreciate avoiding stomach acid. It would be best to wait 15 or 30 minutes between the baking soda and anything else.

It would be best to address the cause, rather than find a symptom relief. Check our posts on d-limonene for gerd.
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Thanks again for your advice jfh.
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I never knew baking soda could be used for heartburn
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kind2creatures, do you get heartburn from the supplements?

I would take them on different nights because as jfh said the acidic nature of the stomach is needed to begin the breakdown of supplements.
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kind2creatures, do you get heartburn from the supplements?

I would take them on different nights because as jfh said the acidic nature of the stomach is needed to begin the breakdown of supplements.
No, but sometimes I'll bet heartburn after I lie down to go to sleep, either from the foods I've eaten, or if I have a cup of herbal tea late in the evening. I use the baking soda rather than Tums. I think I take the supplements far enough away from the baking soda not to cause concern.
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I never knew baking soda could be used for heartburn
Yes, it works well. I learned about it on this forum, and I don't use any more than a measured 1/2 teaspoon, I think more than that is unhealthy for you.
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I had bad hearburn awhile ago, but since I lost a lot of weight I haven't had it. I went down 2 pant sizes and my heartburn I thought went away. Then recently I saw on TV that if your tongue is ever yellow that you may still have acid reflux and not know it, which is very common. Well I've been checking my tongue every few days and I notice it is slightly yellow, so I'm wondering if it's something I should be concern about
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I had bad hearburn awhile ago, but since I lost a lot of weight I haven't had it. I went down 2 pant sizes and my heartburn I thought went away. Then recently I saw on TV that if your tongue is ever yellow that you may still have acid reflux and not know it, which is very common. Well I've been checking my tongue every few days and I notice it is slightly yellow, so I'm wondering if it's something I should be concern about
First I have to congratulate you on losing so much weight, awesome! I saw that Dr. Oz show recently, where he mentioned the yellow in the back/middle of the tongue possibly meaning acid reflux. https://www.doctoroz.com/videos/lazy-...healthy?page=4 I never noticed my tongue being a yellow color. He said another symptom in addition to the tongue was a sore or scratchy throat in the morning for no reason, have you had a sore throat also? I'm lucky to only experience acid reflux rarely, I know it REALLY burns, and can go up into the nose area also. It does make your throat sore, even into the next day. Considering all the damage it can do if it occurs frequently, I'd treat that aggressively with alternatives if it was happening to me.
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First I have to congratulate you on losing so much weight, awesome! I saw that Dr. Oz show recently, where he mentioned the yellow in the back/middle of the tongue possibly meaning acid reflux. https://www.doctoroz.com/videos/lazy-...healthy?page=4 I never noticed my tongue being a yellow color. He said another symptom in addition to the tongue was a sore or scratchy throat in the morning for no reason, have you had a sore throat also? I'm lucky to only experience acid reflux rarely, I know it REALLY burns, and can go up into the nose area also. It does make your throat sore, even into the next day. Considering all the damage it can do if it occurs frequently, I'd treat that aggressively with alternatives if it was happening to me.
When I had a problem I would get wake up in the middle of the night with vomit coming up to be honest. It was a horrible way to wake up in the middle of the night and so hard to go back to sleep.

I cut out coffee and made a few other changes and I never get heartburn at all anymore. I don't wake up with a sore throat or any sign at all, just notice my tonque is slightly yellow every now and then.

The heartburn seems to be genetic as my sister who is stick thin has suffered from acid reflux as well. She has been on prescription medication before, but I think she has it under control. She doesn't drink coffee, beer and can't really lose anymore weight. But neither of my parents suffer from it.
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Read this /f74/21477-d_limonine-gerd.html
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Jfh, I took your advice and just brought home some Jarrow d-Limonene (1,000mg). I just took one, although I don't have any heartburn yet. In the article it said about taking it for 20 days for chronic heartburn or Gerd. Can I just take this after the fact? Like, if I feel some heartburn coming on, can I take a softgel in place of something like Tums? If you get acid reflux in the middle of the night, is it a good idea to hurry up and take a d-Limonene? Are there any side effects?
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Since I have no reflux, I don't take d-limonene for that and have not experimented. There may be other articles that answer your question.

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D-limonene manages symptoms of GERD in most people, and does so in very short order. Just a limited number of doses�some times as few as two or three�can relieve symptoms for a sustained period of time.
Additionally, research has demonstrated that d-limonene has many biochemical properties that may help guard against cancer and other diseases.7 Another advantage of d-limonene is that it has not been associated with the nutrient deficiencies or impaired digestive function that accompany some acid-blocking drugs. Overall, I think it is a good choice for most people experiencing their first symptoms of GERD.


more on this page https://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2007/apr2007_atd_01.htm
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Thanks Jfh. I don't really have Gerd or chronic heartburn, but I have to say that last night, after taking the d-Limonene, I had no heartburn at all. I don't know if I wouldn't have it anyway, but I did have homemade nachos with guacamole for dinner, so I was prepared.
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I thought about you K2C while I was researching why I woke up extremely short of breath (never ever happened before) that lasted for 3 hours. Like running a marathon. Camomile tea, strong black coffee, and antihistamin did not work. Scary. I found the solution in magnesium, when I remembered that magnesium is given to heart attack patients. I thought my breath shortness might be a symptom of heart attack, except I did not have any other symptom. I took 1000mg of mag malate. Within 20 minutes, I was back to normal. The problem was that I was taking EDTA to see if heavy metal has something to do with my chronic sinus problem. EDTA chelates magnesium pretty heavily. I never want to go through that again. I thought I was going to have to call 911.

Anyway, check out the deficiency clause:
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Heartburn

Heartburn is a burning sensation usually felt right behind the breastbone and near the heart itself. Heartburn is sometimes confused with symptoms of a heart attack that can feel similar, but are obviously more serious. Spicy foods, chocolate, caffeine and soda can trigger heartburn. You may experience heartburn on occasion, but if you are dealing with it regularly, especially daily, this may indicate that you have a more serious medical condition, such as GERD. Antacids often relieve heartburn, but sometimes prescription medications, such as proton pump inhibitors, are needed to decrease the production of stomach acid.




Magnesium Hydroxide

Magnesium hydroxide is an ingredient in most major antacid, such as Rolaids and Maalox. Antacids with magnesium help to relieve heartburn. Magnesium hydroxide can also be taken in pill form for an upset stomach, constipation or heartburn.
Magnesium Oxide

Magnesium oxide is a supplement used to ensure ample supply of the mineral for optimal bodily function. You will need to take it with enough water to promote absorption. Drugs.com recommends a full glass of water. An uncomfortable or gurgly stomach and diarrhea are side effects of taking magnesium oxide.
Magnesium Deficiency

According to Dr. Mark Hyman, if you are deficient in magnesium, you are susceptible to having stomach acid enter the esophagus. This is because magnesium keeps the stomach sphincter relaxed, allowing food to pass down into the intestines.
Stomach Acid and Magnesium

You actually need stomach acid to absorb and digest magnesium. Low stomach acid can lead to a magnesium deficiency over time, which means you might become more prone to having reflux or GERD. Taking antacids on a regular basis decreases production of stomach acid and puts you at risk for mineral deficiency or issues with mineral absorption.
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