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I do think that it will help with virus. We are having some success with HIV in my neck of the woods.

I am planning to use MMS for detox about twice a year when I do my biannual fasts, in a 2 to 3 week protocol. Else wise I don't use it much unless I am having an issue or for just brushing my teeth.



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I knocked out a flu virus for a couple of days, stopped taking MMS and got it back for a couple of more days. It will kill viruses, but you have to keep using it for awhile.

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How large a dose did it take to stop the flu for you? Did you just take it for two days? I'm not taking anything right now but plan to do it again soon. I got a pretty powerful reaction last time...but I think I lost count of the drops and took too large of a dose. It's hard to see those tiny drops with my bifocals.

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For a suspected virus, I take 200,000 IU of Vit D3, plus beta glucans, and Culturelle. I've done this 3 or 4 times and so far it's never failed me. I also had my geek friend try it a week ago and it worked for him. The Vit D3 regimen is 1,000 IU per pound of body weight. This amount would be toxic over a prolonged period but for 2 or 3 days, there's no problem. It's called "Stoss Therapy" in Europe.
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I do think that it will help with virus. We are having some success with HIV in my neck of the woods.

I am planning to use MMS for detox about twice a year when I do my biannual fasts, in a 2 to 3 week protocol. Else wise I don't use it much unless I am having an issue or for just brushing my teeth.
So Arrow, for detox would you start slow again or just go in for the kill with 15 drops? If I'm at the maintenance level would I ever need to go back to the dreaded 15 again?
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Thanks Iggy. I was deficient in Vitamin D3 and have been taking 5,000 IU 2x a day for a while as my naturopathic doctor prescribed. I'm due to re-test for that in a week or two. I don't get the stomach/intestinal flu as a rule but pick up on respiratory cold viruses easily, so have to be on guard with COPD.

I am still interested in how much MMS it takes to to overcome flu or any virus, although I suppose each individual might vary. If I were to feel a virus coming on I wonder if I should start in the neighborhood of 2 to 4 drops, or 15 to nip it in the bud?

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I've started making activator by adding ~5% citric acid powder to 5% distilled vinegar. This actually is stronger acidically that plain vinegar, but a bit weaker than straight 10% citric acid.

The reason I do this now is to use some of the normally wasted outgassed chlorine to make (DCA) dichloroacetate when the sodium chlorite breaks down leaving the chlorine dioxide. So I get DOUBLE WHAMMY MMS!!


Dichloroacetate as an Anti-Cancer Agent
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Why is activation such a big deal since most people's stomachs are pre-equipped with acid? Could it be for psychological reasons, to help the customer feel more involved in the process?
I read once that, that was the reason that most cake mixes called for the customer to add one egg.
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In my understanding of ph, there is indication that low stomach acidity contributes to an overall acidic state in the body, which we know contributes to the growth of cancer, the thriving of candida and other microbes.

HCL is notoriously low in those with stomach problems, reflux issues, etc. There isn't enough acid to keep microbes that find their way to the stomach in check.

Seems that quite a few people who use mms have had their reflux disease eliminated. Could it be that microbes were killed and HCL levels brought back to normal becusue the lining of the stomach is no longer invaded and now able to secrete HCL properly again?

Perhaps the activation outside is done to accommodate for these type of people with these type of problems. Over time Jim said that he found that it worked better if activated and suggested.
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I took a 15 drop dose once a day for two days. The flu was gone, then I got it back the next day and my stomach was slightly upset from it so I did not take any more. It never got bad, and after a couple of days it was completely gone.

The virus must reproduce extremely fast.

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That sounds like Clara's Protocol Jim mentions on his Web site. Are you not eating solid food during your cleanse? We fast once a month for 24 hours in my religion.
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Thumbs up Activation, Dosing, Empty or Full Stomach, Fasting...

Jim Humble stressed the need for activation of the sodium chlorite in his book, and said non-activated MMS had little benefit just like stabilized oxygen (4% sodium chlorite solution) had very little effect/benefit by itself. Activated sodium chlorite he said had 100 TIMES more chlorine dioxide available for assimilation.

Since the chlorine dioxide doesn't hurt normal tissue or cause resistant pathogens from constant use, I take 5-10 drops every night as long after dinner as possible for maximum potency (since protein neutralizes the chlorine dioxide) just before bed to increase the efficacy while the body does its repairs normally while sleeping. If I catch some illness, I can easliy jump to 15+ drops without having gastric distress or the need to ramp up the dose gradually to avoid distress. Hence, I should be able to more quickly kill off the cause of any illness more quickly should I get one.

By my personal observations, I would say that 5 activated MMS drops on an empty stomach or while fasting is assimilated much more completely than 15 activated drops on a full stomach!

Also, using Double Whammy activator (5% citric acid powder added to off-the-shelf 5% distilled vinegar) I have noticed there is less bad chlorine taste (so I assume normally wasted outgassed chlorine is now forming some dichloroacetate--DCA, along with the same amount of chlorine dioxide as usual). My stool seems to be slightly darker too using this activator, so I think something additional is going on with Double Whammy activator.

I hope some scientist picks up on this post and experiments further to see if Double Whammy improves MMS efficacy especially against cancer as I suspect it should.

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We have two real scientists on this board, trained and schooled in biochemistry. One is a retired professor of biochemistry. Both say that normal stomach acid would be sufficient to activate MMS. HCL in the stomach is much stronger than citric acid or vinegar. If MMS is activated in the stomach, none of the chlorine dioxide is lost to ambient evaporation.

Jim Humble's 1st success with sodium chlorite was with the unactivated version in South America.

For dental and oral hygiene activation would be necessary.

Perhaps the "activation" has nothing to do with activation but instead is a happy result of the "Krebs Cycle".
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I can do 10 drops at bedtime off and on to be prepared to do 15 if I feel a sickness coming on. Is Double Whammy a brand since you've capitalized it or your own making? Does one dose of 15 knock out your illness? How often in a week do you take 10 drops?
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I can do 10 drops at bedtime off and on to be prepared to do 15 if I feel a sickness coming on. Is Double Whammy a brand since you've capitalized it or your own making? Does one dose of 15 knock out your illness? How often in a week do you take 10 drops?
Hi baby,

I was torn between using acetic acid (5% distilled vinegar) or citric acid (powder) as an activator. I wanted to use acetic acid in hopes of using the wasted chlorine (outgassed during activation) to additionally form dichloroacetate (DCA) which kills cancer cells, along with the intended chlorine dioxide. However, the citric acid is stronger and makes for better activation into chloring dioxide. SO...... I decided to simply add about half as much citric acid powder to distilled vinegar as I would normally add to water for making activator.

Now making BOTH chlorine dioxide AND additionally making some dichloroacetate (though don't know how much) is what I call a DOUBLE WHAMMY--due to the additional dichloroacetate made from normally wasted chlorine gas!!

However, using some of that chlorine gas normally wasted in activation also leaves less chlorine smell and taste--somewhat reducing the nasty taste!! Try it!!
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Regarding if 15+ drops knocks out an illness for me, I really haven't been sick yet since I started regularly taking MMS in November. Within a few days, I did see great improvements in my BPH and blood sugar issues, and I haven't had a cold sore since I've been taking MMS either.

I do have first hand information from a friend who after several rounds of IV and oral antibiotics over several months still had uncurable MRSA, which began to clear up immediately on MMS and after a few weeks on MMS is amost back to normal. So I know chlorine dioxide kills bugs!
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