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Hello people its me again. Sme of you may remember my post a few months back about teeth and jaw pains after using MMS and Magnesium Chloride Oil respectively.

The greater the detox the worse the symptoms. I also noted my chest had a bad cough and that I had pains all over my face and up my nose. I was constantly full of mucous. Mind it seemed like old symptoms were I had all my life were worse.

Having said that I did end up backing off from MMS altogether but my gums have not been the same since. Constant swelling and the like. So recetly I decided what I could do about it again and looked back to MMS.

Its very unusual but having read a little tonight I came accross and artile on this very thing and noted the patient had a hyper active thyroid. Well I just happened to read up on the actual condtion and realised it could well be what I had all my life. The symptoms matched.

That opened up another question as to why my symptoms would be so bad when a cure is supposed to kill the infections causing it and I came back here. And I have just read here tonight about someone with Hep C have a bad reaction when using it. But it was this reply that struck me.

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Hi view from here. This is usually the case when detoxing that the liver numbers go up.

What occurs, in part, in Hepatitis C is an over-responsive immune system directed against tissues normally seen as self. The presence of the HCV virus provokes humoral and cell-mediated immunity resulting in an autoimmune reaction directed against the liver and other glands, tissues and organs. The HCV infection literally becomes a part of the infected person's RNA (genetics). Once the HCV has become incorporated into the cells, the immune system does not distinguish it from our normal tissues. The detrimental effects begin when an invader such as the Hepatitis C virus enters normal tissues. These tissues now contain the proteins of the HCV virus. The body's immunoglobins direct themselves against the viral proteins. By this time the virus has incorporated itself into normal tissues such as the liver and lymphocytes or white blood cells. The infected tissue and its constituent proteins are now viewed by the body's immune system as foreign. The immune system believes that it is doing its job by destroying the viral proteins even at the expense of attacking the liver cells. MMS supercharges the immune system and as a result some infected kidney cell die raising the test levels. This is what i understand that happens.
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I wonder if something similar could be happening to me. I have had various health issue all my life and it strikes me that they could be in part due to infections that have become part of those parts of my body. That might explain the painful gums, teeth, jaw and face. Along with the coughs and mucous production. The MMs stimulating my immune system to attack them.

That being the case I wonder what in creation I should do? Of course I could be jumping to conclusions.

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Old 10-16-2008, 07:06 AM
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Well its been a while since i posted. Wanted to update you all on my experiences with MMS.

I took MMS for two weeks at 15drops twice a day. did not take two long as no major illnesses.

I have been taking maintinance doses of 10 drops twice a week.

Life long dandruff gone. Herpies has left the room. hip joint pain that made it hard to sleep is gone. Killed the dengue fever I had within 24 hrs. I have made some great friends. Acid reflux is also gone almost forgot. so all in all i would say it has worked quite well.

I have two friends with AIDS that are taking MMS and are showing marked improvement. Confirmed in one of them by resent medical testing. Another friend that has been using it for hep C and her viral load has dropped. After two months use by 1/3. Many, many more that are using MMS and getting good results. Thanks Jim for sharing MMS with the world.

Also have been reading that they are outlawing MMS in australia and canada. I can get Sodium chlorite in the country I'm in for about 45usd per pound. So good luck to you all on your journey to health.
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Hello people its me again. Sme of you may remember my post a few months back about teeth and jaw pains after using MMS and Magnesium Chloride Oil respectively.

The greater the detox the worse the symptoms. I also noted my chest had a bad cough and that I had pains all over my face and up my nose. I was constantly full of mucous. Mind it seemed like old symptoms were I had all my life were worse.

Having said that I did end up backing off from MMS altogether but my gums have not been the same since. Constant swelling and the like. So recetly I decided what I could do about it again and looked back to MMS.

Its very unusual but having read a little tonight I came accross and artile on this very thing and noted the patient had a hyper active thyroid. Well I just happened to read up on the actual condtion and realised it could well be what I had all my life. The symptoms matched.

That opened up another question as to why my symptoms would be so bad when a cure is supposed to kill the infections causing it and I came back here. And I have just read here tonight about someone with Hep C have a bad reaction when using it. But it was this reply that struck me.



I wonder if something similar could be happening to me. I have had various health issue all my life and it strikes me that they could be in part due to infections that have become part of those parts of my body. That might explain the painful gums, teeth, jaw and face. Along with the coughs and mucous production. The MMs stimulating my immune system to attack them.

That being the case I wonder what in creation I should do? Of course I could be jumping to conclusions.

Hi Lodstar

If your condition is due to pathogens then taking MMS might very well be causing this type of reaction as it kills them off. It might be that you have mercury in those areas. You might want to check out the symptoms of mercury poisoning. as I understand it MMS is supposed to detox the body of heavy mental poisoning. I have had no experience in this department.

I have had strange pains in various parts of my body suddenly appear for no apparent reason for a day or two and then just disappear never to return again, while taking MMS. I remember one day waking up and had a hard time walking on my right foot as my little toe was so painful. it was totaly gone by that evening. If your getting a painful reactions MMS is killing or removing something that is foreign to your body. Go slow, cut back on your dosage a little and stay there for a while. No hurry unless you have a life threatening illness. Take care and good luck

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Maybe this is not the correct section to post this too, but it does seem to be the most active. I originally posted on Health Salon, under Cardiovascular, but that area is very quiet. Below is what I posted.

"I am into week 3 of using MMS and although I said I wouldn’t go beyond 10 drops, I did. I felt as though nothing was happening. I still get angina. I went to 15 drops 3 times a day, no nausea and still nothing happened. I took a chance and went to 20 drops and felt nausea. I backed off to 18 drops 3 times a day, no nausea. Today 19 drops 3 times today, no nausea. I am about to go to bed. Tomorrow back to 20 drops and see what happens.
I am raising the drop count because I weigh in at 108 kilograms. If I get to 27 drops 3 times a day, I will know, as I have read somewhere else, that I have reached the amount required for a larger person."

I have been on 20 drops 3 times per day for4 days, no nausea, but loose stools. I shall keep this regime going for another 2 weeks and then go onto a maintenance dose. I also take 30 grams of ascorbic acid over a day. This is just below bowel tolerance for me. I include with this 2 grams of Lysine, a small amount of Taurine and Proline. This is my use of the Linus Pauling regime, which I have been on for at least 5 months. It's frustrating, but I still have angina. I can say more, but that will do for now.
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Thanks for sharing your story. good luck with the angina and let us know of your progress. How long have you had angina and has a doctor said what the cause of it is. Is your colesterol high also. Well good luck and keep in touch from time to time.
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Hi Galpin

Thanks for sharing your story. good luck with the angina and let us know of your progress. How long have you had angina and has a doctor said what the cause of it is. Is your colesterol high also. Well good luck and keep in touch from time to time.
It is now a further 2 weeks since I started on 20 drops of MMS, 3 times a day. My angina has NOT improved. So this morning I increased the amount to 22 drops. I have had no nausea. I will stay at 22 drops for about 4 days and then increase again.
My cholesterol levels and blood sugar counts are within the normal range.
I suspect that for anything to work will require time due to the blockages I have in the left and right coronary arteries. If readers require some figures about the precise nature of the blockages, just ask in this forum.

Is the report about MMS being "banned"r whatever in Australia and Canada reliable? Can anyone point to a report?
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Hi Galpin

I'm not sure I understand what is causing your angina. If your colesterol is normal what is causing the blockages. MMS is said to reduce colesterol build up in the arteries faily quickly. Sounds like your already taking vitamin C. and that is supposed to help strenghten you arteries. Maybe as you say more time is needed. I'm not sure that stronger doses are going to help. You might just want to take a steady lower dose treatment. This will also give your arteries time to heal and strenghten as they are cleared.
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Anyone with experience of poorly differentiated nasal carcinoma mastesized to the neck (shortened version) and MMS? I reread ebook2 and Jim says to keep increasing the doses and frequencies until the cancer is gone. The Indian herb has been tried also and is still being taken internally. Of course the doctors are talking chemo and radiation. Thanks very much.
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Hi Lodstar

If your condition is due to pathogens then taking MMS might very well be causing this type of reaction as it kills them off. It might be that you have mercury in those areas. You might want to check out the symptoms of mercury poisoning. as I understand it MMS is supposed to detox the body of heavy mental poisoning. I have had no experience in this department.

I have had strange pains in various parts of my body suddenly appear for no apparent reason for a day or two and then just disappear never to return again, while taking MMS. I remember one day waking up and had a hard time walking on my right foot as my little toe was so painful. it was totaly gone by that evening. If your getting a painful reactions MMS is killing or removing something that is foreign to your body. Go slow, cut back on your dosage a little and stay there for a while. No hurry unless you have a life threatening illness. Take care and good luck
Unfortunately those pains I describe went on for days. But it is interesting to note my nutrinalist said it could be down to mercury in those areas. I even had blood gathering in my nose along with mucous.

However, I still decided I did not wish to give up so decided to go for it again. This time by going for my abcess and mouth first. I looked up a few articles and saw Jim Humble say to use 10 drops activated MMS with half cup of water and brush 4 x daily. I have done this now for two days and not so far seen anything like what I described. However, My abcess has begun to become very sore. At first I thought i was shrinkin but it seems to be somewhat swollen. Hope this is normal.

Furthermore I came across Adam Abrahams site and he also noted it that I had a simlair reaction when using large amounts of Magnesium Chloride. He said that I could have alot of pathogens in those areas and that when my immune system is boosted those pathogens go into fight or flight. And snce they cant fight they run. He then suggested using DMSO in conjuntion with it. This is used by Jim Hmuble himself and is said to help clear blockages allowing the MMS to do it work.

What he said was to try adding 10 drops MMS with 50 drops of Citric Acid and then adding 3/4 of DMSO and waiting 3 more minutes before topically brushing my mouth with it. He said this would stop any pathogens from congregating there. This can be done before a big oral intake of MMS. But for now I am focused on clearing my mouth out especially the abcess. I am still waiting for the DMSO to arrive.

If anyone is familar with DMSO and MMS being combined I would be very interested. It would also be helpful as another of Adams suggestions was mixing the two and consuming that way.
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I have used dmso in the past with antibiotics that I wanted to put on my shin to kill imfections under the skin. It does a good job of this. I have never tasted it but if tastes anything like it smells. Yuk. I think it would be good in your situation on your absess as it would carry the MMS deep into your gums and tooth helping to kill your absess. Good luck and keep in touch. I have had really good luck with everything I have used it for. sometimes I think its just a matter of the best way of getting it where its needed.
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Anyone with experience of poorly differentiated nasal carcinoma mastesized to the neck (shortened version) and MMS? I reread ebook2 and Jim says to keep increasing the doses and frequencies until the cancer is gone. The Indian herb has been tried also and is still being taken internally. Of course the doctors are talking chemo and radiation. Thanks very much.
Might try using MMS with Dmso applied topically along with taking it internally if the carcinoma is in a place close to the skin which I be believe most carcinomas are. Dmso carries MMS deep into skin and tissue below.
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I have used dmso in the past with antibiotics that I wanted to put on my shin to kill imfections under the skin. It does a good job of this. I have never tasted it but if tastes anything like it smells. Yuk. I think it would be good in your situation on your absess as it would carry the MMS deep into your gums and tooth helping to kill your absess. Good luck and keep in touch. I have had really good luck with everything I have used it for. sometimes I think its just a matter of the best way of getting it where its needed.
Adam Abraham warned me of its pungent taste. Thing is do I wish to clear my mouth, connetcive tissues and thyroid or not? Ill take the taste you can bet on that. Besides Im going to consider myself hardcore for enduring it

But back on my question about the abcess does it get sore and inflammed on and off as it is doing?
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I would say that if your consistent with the application of Dmso and MMS you would see a gradual reduction in the pain and swelling. I can not see why it should not be cleared up within a week unless you have a really major infection going on in your face and Jaw. In which case this could be very serious as I have heard of people dying from absesses and the infection speading to there brains. Not trying to freak you out but it can get to that point.

I just went back and read one of your posts about the symtoms your having. Like you were saying with Hep C and its treatment people get very sick when taking the inerferon as it is killing off a lot of the pathogens. It sounds like your having a different kind of herx reaction. I have read of some pretty strange ones as people have started to heal. Well let me know how things are going and take care of yourself.
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I would say that if your consistent with the application of Dmso and MMS you would see a gradual reduction in the pain and swelling. I can not see why it should not be cleared up within a week unless you have a really major infection going on in your face and Jaw. In which case this could be very serious as I have heard of people dying from absesses and the infection speading to there brains. Not trying to freak you out but it can get to that point.

I just went back and read one of your posts about the symtoms your having. Like you were saying with Hep C and its treatment people get very sick when taking the inerferon as it is killing off a lot of the pathogens. It sounds like your having a different kind of herx reaction. I have read of some pretty strange ones as people have started to heal. Well let me know how things are going and take care of yourself.
If you were not trying to freak me you failed. Just kidding. Actually the DMSO being taken internally could help with that as I read Adam Abraham telling me of someone who used 1 fluid ounce of it in 8 fluid ounces to clear a blood clot after a stroke. It may be possible to find ways of taking DMSO in something like a topical way to stop any infection spreading to that area and congregating. Ideas anyone?

Its just day 3 of brushing regular with MMS as I describe minus the DMSO which I have had to order overseas so I will be ading this perhaps overnight and continue brushing as I have through the day. Really getting sensitive teeth from it though but hey Ill have lovely white teeth
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Along with brushing you might want to just hold the mms solution in your mouth in the area of the the abcess for a few minutes and let it soak. I used to do this with whiskey or vodka when I had an abcess and it worked well. Made me feel a whole lot better too
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Way ahead of you there. Have been doing this from the get go. Didnt see the point of brushing with all that activated mis for 3 minutes and throwing it away so have been rinsing my mouth with it after.

Sensitive teeth got alot worse though but Ill deal. Id rather that than an abcess that could get more complicated. But Ill say now they are resillient little things.

Actually I couldnt sleep last night and my thoughts wandered. I thought about the pain and inflamation I got in my siunuses especially when using and I wondered if using some DMSO and MMS mix could be dropped or sprayed up my shnozz to help clerar that directly like I am with treating my mouth. Would also help stop any pathogens from congregating there. But I dont know if this is wise or even necessarry. The DMSO may clear that blockage on its own. And I would not know what concentration to use for it anyway and if Id mix it with wtaer and to what consistentcy.

Still if anyone has ideas I would liove to hear them.

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