Had reflux, then fixed it, and now its back...

saved1986

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kind2creatures

\r\n \r\n Hi matrim33, welcome. Licorice Root Extract (DGL) comes in chewable tablets and is recommended for indigestion, reflux and soothing of the esophagus. They sell it at places like Vitacost, Swanson Vitamins, iherb, etc.
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\nI\'ve used 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda (Bob\'s Red Mill - aluminum free) in water for heartburn relief, and it helps most of the time. I\'m not sure how often the baking soda can be safely taken on a daily basis though. Good to see you\'re drinking Aloe too, it helps.
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\nSleeping on your right side can also cause you to have nightly heartburn and acid reflux, I find that to be true for myself.
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\nPS: the lightheadedness may be caused by dehydration, be sure to drink plenty of filtered water throughout the day.\r\n

Arrowwind09

\r\n \r\n Stress can cause this problem... but the stress also sets you up for dysbiosis in the stomach. Have you ever done meditation? Find ways to destress daily.
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\nI suggest that you add 1 tablespoon of raw virgin coconut oil 3 times a day, by the spoonful, religiously and on an empty stomach when you can. Not imperative but more helpful. Coconut oil is known for killing microbes that are not beneficial. It also has many other health benefits for the cardio-vascular system and brain nutrition
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\nNettle tea is also helpful for improving digestion. Make it your wake up brew and have several cups a day. Sweeten with stevia... don\'t get hooked on sugar or honey to sweeten things.
\nContinue with your digestive aids. Make sure you are taking a good probiotic also. jfh has stong recommendations for digestive bitters but I\'ve not used them. You might consider it.
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\nSupplements of GABA will help eliminate your need for paxil. https://www.lightparty.com/Health/Anxiety.html
\nPaxil is a very bad drug and you need to get away from it. Paxil does increase nerurotransmitters but is affects the gut and it may also cause light headedness and many other side effects (poisonous effects). Another choice is Sam-e
\nhttps://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/0...se-depression/ but I would try the GABA first.\r\n

jfh

\r\n \r\n If you are researching this on the net, it is called GERD.
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\nI have no problem in this area but have several friends with it. One friend has is so bad that he has to leave the table and walk around a bit. He\'s obviously in pain.
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\nTry d-limonene. Very natural. Here\'s why. https://www.dirtdoctor.com/organic/ga...search/id/113/
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\nAvoid peppermint tea. It relaxes the upper sphincter of the stomach.
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\nDigestive bitters will cut down on fermentation in the stomach. That\'s only one of the remarkable things about digestive bitters. And you only have to have a small taste, not the amount suggested on the bottles. If you want to feed two birds with one crumb, get some andrographis. Andrographis is the king of the bitters. Just hold one tablet in your mouth for less than a minute before swallowing right before your meal. Hold it too long and you\'ll never get the taste out through your whole meal. Andrographis is mostly used for cold, flu, and sinusitis care. Digestive problems, cardiovascular, and anti-tumor. https://www.herbsarespecial.com.au/is...f-bitters.html It is important to use a lot of water during the day while taking bitters, because they do have a tendency to cleanse the liver however gradually to wash out the toxins.
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\nI suspect you have lack of stomach acid, which is most likely due to the use of antacids or other things like that which the doctors tend to give you. Digestive bitters will help that situation. You need the acid to control the growth of yeast. Most all minerals, including magnesium and zinc, require stomach acid for the body to be able to absorb them properly, or they will just be unused. The same is true for vitamin B12. The B vitamins will help improve your stomach acid.
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\nWhen food is not digested properly, it will just sit and ferment. This causes the production of carbon dioxide gas. The gas produces pressure on the sphincter muscle causing your reflux and pain.
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\nTrimethylglycine (TMG) can also be used to increase stomach acid formation. TMG is a strong methyl donor. Methylation is required for the production of many substances in the body including stomach acid, neurotransmitters, hormones, etc.
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\nYou are much too young to have to worry about stomach acid. This declines when you reach about 40. But something must be happening to cause this situation in you. I suspect something is happening to cause your enzymes to be weakened. Truly, try digestive bitters. Take only half of what is recommended on the bottle. The point is that the back of your tongue, where bitter receptors lie, only has to taste the bitter. The point is not to just swallow these things. Taste. This stimulates the vagus nerve, which will activate numerous health processes in your body immediately. This is not something that takes time to build up in your body. You will know if bitters will work for you nearly immediately.
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\nHope this helps.\r\n

matrim33

\r\n \r\n Thank you all for your help. I picked up some d-limonene yesterday and started taking that last night. Pretty potent stuff, not sure if its helping or making me nauseous.
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\nI also just grabbed some andrographis. Put it under my tongue before dinner. So far so good, but my reflux usually takes a while to hit.
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\nAbout stress, I have tried meditation, exercise, and yoga. They all do a great job of relaxing me, but the stress is still there, and the reflux is too.
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\nI was thinking that if I did have a lack of acid and I\'m not breaking down all of my food maybe that is adding to the stress. Has anybody tried apple cider vinegar?
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\nAlso, should I being doing all of this at once? I was thinking about grabbing the coconut oil, but I\'m starting to put a lot new stuff in to my stomach and don\'t want to overwhelm myself.
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\nI\'ll keep you all posted on how it goes. I really hope this all works.\r\n

jfh

\r\n \r\n No need to put androgrphis under your tongue. The back of the tongue needs to taste it. That\'s all. You can even swallow it, after a minute, or spit the rest of the pill out. Since it is so good for so many things, it is best to swallow the pill.
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\nCoconut oil is one of the best, along with olive oil. You won\'t complicate anything by adding it to your diet.
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\nI guess I did forget to mention apple cider vinegar. I prefer TMG to acv, but that is both a matter of preference and a health issue with which I\'m dealing. Fungus seems to like vinegar, but some diets say that acv is the only one that they avoid. I don\'t trust that. But you can best use acv by taking 2 tablespoons per day. A little prior to a meal will help when you stomach acid is low and needs a boost. The ascetic acid is pretty good for that.\r\n

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Thank you all for your help. I picked up some d-limonene yesterday and started taking that last night. Pretty potent stuff, not sure if its helping or making me nauseous.
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\nI also just grabbed some andrographis. Put it under my tongue before dinner. So far so good, but my reflux usually takes a while to hit.
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\nAbout stress, I have tried meditation, exercise, and yoga. They all do a great job of relaxing me, but the stress is still there, and the reflux is too.
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\nI was thinking that if I did have a lack of acid and I\'m not breaking down all of my food maybe that is adding to the stress. Has anybody tried apple cider vinegar?
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\nAlso, should I being doing all of this at once? I was thinking about grabbing the coconut oil, but I\'m starting to put a lot new stuff in to my stomach and don\'t want to overwhelm myself.
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\nI\'ll keep you all posted on how it goes. I really hope this all works.

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\nYou will burp the orange flavor for a few hrs, best to take a capsule earlier in the day than at night.\r\n

matrim33

\r\n \r\n About d-limonene. Has anybody actually used it and it worked for them? I can find hundreds of articles quoting the amazing study done with it (which are all pretty much written exactly the same, I\'m a doc and I give this to my patients because of this study and it works amazing), but I find zero testimonials from people who actually used it. It\'s almost like whoever is producing this stuff has plastered the internet touting this study and at this point I\'m questioning if it ever even took place. The stuff hasn\'t worked for me.
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\nMaybe I\'m crazy or google is doing a bad job. But for most supplements I can find tons of testimonials from people, but with d-limonene I can only find "sales" articles pointing out this amazing study. Feel free to point me to some testimonials, I\'d love to read them.
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\nIf it really works so well, and so fast at curing one of the most prevalent diseases in the US, why aren\'t thousands of people jumping for joy and screaming online that they have been cured? Remember, it cures 9 out of 10 people for 6 months. I\'ll tell you right now, that if I was cured I would be telling all of my friends and posting online that it worked. I can\'t find anything like that. Sounds like a scam to me.\r\n

Arrowwind09

\r\n \r\n Here\'s a clue. Try to find this study.
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\nWillette RC, Barrow L, Doster R, Wilkins J, Wilkins JS, Heggers JP. Purified d-limonene: an effective agent for the relief of occasional symptoms of heartburn. Proprietary study. WRC Laboratories, Inc. Galveston, TX.
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\nupon further looking LEF says the study is yet unpublished yet they had access to it somehow:
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\nFrom Life Extension Foundation:
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\nA Natural Solution
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\nA chemist from Texas suffered painful symptoms of GERD for years and did not like the idea of taking a proton-pump inhibitor drug on a chronic basis. He looked at d-limonene, an extract from the orange peel, as a long-term approach to controlling GERD symptoms. Based on both anecdotal and as yet unpublished clinical research studies, the intake of just one 1000-mg capsule of this purified d-limonene every other day for 20 days has been shown to reduce or eliminate GERD symptoms in most people for six months or longer.
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\nThere is no clearly established mechanism by which d-limonene is so effective. Researchers, however, have speculated that d-limonene works in several ways to eliminate GERD-related pain. Since d-limonene is lighter than water, it floats to the surface of gastric juices in the stomach.
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\nJoe S. Wilkins, the Houston-area scientist who developed this natural approach to heartburn relief, believes that the minor burping that occurs with d-limonene causes this orange peel extract to be directly carried into the esophagus. By coating the esophagus, d-limonene may protect the esophagus against caustic contents that would have otherwise been regurgitated from the stomach. D-limonene may promote quicker movement of food and gastric juices out of the stomach so that these esophageal irritants do not promote as much reflux.
\nD-limonene may also provide a barrier in the stomach and esophagus against bacterial infection.It is well established that stomach cancer risk is increased in those infected with the H. pylori bacteria. Finally, d-limonene may reduce the amount of gastric juices that reflux (regurgitates) back into the esophagus.
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\nAll of these mechanisms help explain why so many heartburn sufferers find long-term relief by taking just one 1000-mg capsule of d-limonene every other day for only 20 days.\r\n

Arrowwind09

\r\n \r\n I will say this, that MMS1 has cured reflux disease for some people.
\nHomeopathy cured it for me but for me it took about 2 months of attempts with my homoepath. It was well worth it. I have not been bothered again... 3 or 4 years now.\r\n

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This is what I am talking about. Supposedly there are all these people getting "cured" by this supplement, but I can\'t find one direct testimonial. Even talk about the study is hearsay as nobody can produce it. I\'m finding claims about this stuff as far back as 2005, and nobody in any forum (that I can find) has said it worked for them.
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\nI\'m not calling out MMS1, or homeopathy. I\'m calling out d-limonene. I will continue to think this is a scam until I hear directly from some people who have taken it and had it work for them. Real people, not my brother, or my doc gave it to this guy, etc.\r\n

Arrowwind09

\r\n \r\n Well I was just telling you what worked for me.
\nI don\'t know what to say about d limonone. obviously it is not for you. I never used it and I don\'t personally know anyone who has. Did you look around curezone for a d limonone discussion?
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\nOften reflux is due to a pathogen so I could understand how it might work. There are studies that show it has antimicrobial effect.
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\nHave you ruled out hiatial hernia?\r\n

matrim33 · � #1 � 09-22-2011, 04:36 PM

Hello,

This is my first time on here and I hope you all are nice to me :-)

I�m a 29 year old male. I have been suffering with acid reflux on and off for about 9 years. For the last couple of years it has mostly been on. For the last six months I have basically given up on trying to control it and have let it be. I burp a lot, get acid in my mouth, have a sore throat when I get up in the morning. About four months ago I started getting tightness in my sinus�s that seemed to occur after eating. That got worse and started to make me feel dizzy and affected my ability to focus. Another new issue is a pain right below my ribcage where the abdominal muscle meets the chest. Its the muscle that hurts and I�ve read that stomach muscle spasms are common with reflux.

I have noticed that when I go on vacation the reflux seems to disappear. I went to Arizona a few years ago and I actually enjoyed a cup of coffee each morning I was there, and I can never drink coffee! But the carefree life style I enjoy on vacation doesn�t exist at home. I run a home based business that is pretty stressful. I just got married, which is great, but planning the wedding and everything was super stressful.

Note: I have been to doctors and have had an endoscopy done. Basically they saw some scarring and told me that the reflux wouldn�t kill me. Everytime I talk to the them they point me to antacids. I have taken them all and paxil 24 hour works well. 2 problems though. 1. I don�t want to be on meds the rest of my life. 2. I get a really bad heart arrhythmia when taking proton pump inhibitors.

So a few weeks ago I decided to try conquer this problem. The dizziness especially was really affecting my ability to work. I tweaked my diet to incorporate more fruits and veggies and less fatty/processed foods. I tried to drink less (I�m a big micro-beer lover). I cut tea out completely. I started to eat more cabbage as it has helped in the past. I also started drinking aloe juice, which has also helped me in the past. I did this for a few weeks and didn�t notice any huge improvement. I started going online and reading more to find an answer.

I found that magnesium had helped some people so I started taking that. 200m twice a day. It didn�t help my reflux, but I�m sure I was deficient in magnesium before as I have a lot more energy than I did before. I love that.

I then remembered that back in college I took an enzyme supplement when I ate and that used to help. So I took one with dinner about a week ago. I told my wife that night before bed that something was funny. I couldn�t figure it out, but something in my stomach and my throat felt different. The next morning I had no pain in my throat. This hadn�t happened in years. I had breakfast and took another enzyme pill and I didn�t have my usual heartburn and it was harder to burp. For whatever reason the pill got my stomach to shut and I was on cloud nine! The next day I wanted to test it and I ate pizza, usually a huge no no for my stomach. I felt great, I had no heartburn, and no pain at all. I didn�t burp. And the best part of all, no lightheadedness. I thought I had my life back.

Well, sadly it didn�t last... I think I may fall into depression. Slowly my stomach has fallen back in to the mess it was in weeks ago. I am still taking the enzymes with each meal and the magnesium. Keeping up with my diet, and eating cabbage and drinking aloe juice. Today I�m especially bummed as I have really been lightheaded. I can�t figure out how the enzymes worked so well for 4 days and now they don�t seem to do anything.

I just wanted to see if anybody here had any similar experiences and had any advice/help for me. The key is to get my stomach to shut after eating. I know it can, it did it perfectly last week. I�m going to try and sprinkle the enzymes on my dinner tonight, instead of taking the capsule. I hope it works.

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