\r\n \r\n Vitamin A itself is actually beneficial to smokers. Beta carotene in the form of carrots, swet potatoes, apricots is also. It is the vitamin version of beta carotene that shows increased lung cancer rates. Yes there are non beta carotene multis, but you have to look for them.\r\n

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\r\n \r\n Thats what I thought. thanks for clearing that up and for your suggestions \r\n

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\r\n \r\n Hi changed, welcome. Nicovite is one brand that has no beta-carotene. It looks like they may be temporarily out of stock, but might be worth it to contact them.
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\r\n \r\n Thanks very much! that product definately looks like the right kind of thing for me. Will have a search for similar products and see what I can find.
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\nIf I come accross something I will post it here because it may be useful to others with the same dilemna.
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\nThe only other question then really is, what was that vitamin C thing I saw here the other day?
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\nluciprous vitamin C? or something.... I can\'t remember the name it\'s making me go crazy lol somebody posted a link to the store aswell but I forgot to bookmark it \r\n

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\r\n \r\n I don\'t know the thread you\'re talking about. I take Solaray Vitamin C, 1000mg. When there\'s a health issue, I take it several times per day. There\'s powdered form of Vitamin C, like Now brand, that\'s 2500 mg. per serving. I don\'t think I\'ve ever seen more than 1,000 mg in a capsule form.\r\n

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\r\n \r\n Found the vitamin c thread!
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\nhttps://www.natmedtalk.com/cancer/510...vitamin-c.html
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\nInterestin stuff. Not sure it\'s for me but a high amount of vitamin c in your body cannot be a bad thing.\r\n

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\r\n \r\n I take a high dose Vitamin C - wouldn\'t be without it. Also, I agree - nothing wrong with beta caratene. The body converts beta caratene to Vitamin A as needed - what amazing bodies we have! Taking straight VitA can be toxic.\r\n

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\r\n \r\n Beta-carotene is not good for smokers, that\'s why I want to find a 0 beta-carotene multivitamin.
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\nYeah it does get changed into vitamin a, but taking it in a supplement form is no good.\r\n

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\r\n \r\n Where did you get the information about beta caratene and that it is bad for smokers?
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\nThere was a study involving heavy smokers that appeared in April 1994, and I will quote from Doctor Michael Colgan "national media are being cleverly manipulated to misinterpret a new study appearing today in the New England Journal of Medicine." Dr Colgan on page 111 and 112 of his book The New Nutrition states \'the study has little application even to smokers. After reviewing all the studies, the Colgan Institute uses 25,000 - 50,000 IU of beta-caratene per day (15-30mg) for normal health maintenance in healthy people. Smokers would need a lot more than that to effectively combat their condition\'.
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\nIf I was a smoker I would either quit or I would take a higher dose of the supplements I already take (including the beta carotene in my very high quality antioxidant) to overcome all the nasty toxins getting into my body from smoking.\r\n

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\r\n \r\n Here\'s just a handfull of links to this info:
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\nhttps://www.bccancer.bc.ca/PPI/Unconv...roVitaminA.htm
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\nhttps://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA99992
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\nhttps://www.unexplainable.net/artman/...cle_4516.shtml
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\nhttps://www46.safesecureweb.com/posi...oks/beta57.htm
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\nBasically, it is not a wise move to take it as a supplement if you are a smoker. naturally it is fine. I personally want to avoid it...\r\n

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\r\n \r\n Thanks so much for sending all those links. I will investigate.
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\nMy final word is - good quality supplements are a form of good quality food. Should we stop eating good quality food because we are told that it\'s not good for us? I know what good quality supplements are and whether we smoke or not, I believe that we all need to take them for the sake of our future health.
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\r\n \r\n Giving high dose Vitamin C by IV is being used by some doctors to help cancer patients.\r\n

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\r\n \r\n Oh and another \'final word\' - it is important not to take supplements in isolation - they do need to be taken in the right quantities and with other vitamins and minerals to create balance and synergy.
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\nMany studies use vitamins and minerals in isolation which does not actually prove anything. (You can study drugs in isolation).
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\nThe questions to ask about vitamin studies are:
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\n2. what quality is the vitamin
\n3. what is the dose
\n4. what is the health condition of the subjects
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\nThat\'s why I recommend a good quality multi antioxidant and multimineral with ingredients in the correct doses to create balance and synergy.
\nCheers,
\nHelen antiagingboomer.com\r\n

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\r\n \r\n Yeah you are totally correct, synthetic beta-carrotene needs to be neutralized by other anit-oxidants. If you don\'t have enough other vitamins and anti-oxidants it actually causes more harm than good to smokers.
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\nIf I can find a multi vitamin with natural carretenoids that will be fine for me, it\'s hard to find one though. A lot have the synthetic version in them which is the one that causes smokers problems.
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\nI did find one that used another form of vitamin A but I have lost it
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\nI will post any findings I make in here, because I am sure there will be other smokers looking for a good multi vitamin without synthetic beta-carrotene in it.\r\n

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\r\n \r\n Ok here is one that may be good for smokers like myself.
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\nonly 40% of the vitamin a @ 5000 iu is Beta-Carotene.
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\nhttps://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-Liqui...3-ml/4349?at=0\r\n

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\r\n \r\n I checked out your link to the liquid supplement. It\'s OK - I recommend a high-quality broad spectrum supplement called the Essentials by Usana Health Sciences. Go with the highest quality that you can afford.
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\r\n \r\n Smoking cigarettes ages skin faster than anything else apart from sun damage. There\'s no gentle way of saying this. If you smoke cigarettes you need to stop. Aside from the many health issues associated with smoking - if you care at all about wrinkles and you want to look younger for longer - then smoking is out.
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\nSmoking restricts blood flow through the capillaries (tiny veins near the skins surface) preventing oxygen and nutrients getting to the skin smoking increases production of an enzyme which breaks down the supply of collagen to the skin\'s structure. Collagen supply is vital to the skin\'s elasticity. It decreases with age but smoking cigarettes accelerates this process. Vitamin C is required for healthy collagen prodcution and smoking destroys Vitamin C fast.
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\nSmoking reduces the body\'s store of vitamin A which provides protection from skin damage smoking gets in the way of absorption of vitamin C - a vital antioxidant for skin protection and health smokers continual puckering from drawing on a cigarette and squinting in reaction to the cigarette smoke results in deeply wrinkled skin around the eyes and mouth - classic signs of \'smoker\'s face\'.
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\nAcknowledgement: Julie Dennis Skin Care
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\nTo combat aging for smokers I would recommend you take a broad-spectrum high-quality mega antioxidant and multi mineral, a high quality grapeseed extract and high quality omega-3. That way you would get the extra nutrition that your body is lacking as well as preventing further aging.
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\nCheers,
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\r\n \r\n Interaction of ascorbic acid and tocopherol on beta-carotene modulated carcinogenesis.World\'s Healthiest foods has more to say on the subject\r\n

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\r\n \r\n Sorry to bump an old thread but I had some questions and felt this was probably the best one to post in..
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\r\nI am a smoker (not heavy maybe 1 pack a week) and right now I\'m taking Opti-men multi vitamin (https://www.iherb.com/Optimum-Nutriti...ets/27540?at=0)
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\r\nThe ingredients show Vitamin A "as CaroCare natural mixed carotenoids"
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\r\nDoes this mean it\'s safe for me to take this as theres no mention of Beta-Carotene?
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\r\nThank you!\r\n

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