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@Hobo:
Science has confirmed that the liver can be damaged as much as 75% and still regenerate itself completely. After reading all of those testimonies on the hacres.com site where they were cured or well on there way to being so, I definitely believe that you will one day resolve your Hep C issue.

20 years ago I was diagnosed with Hep B after trying to donate blood. For years I showed antibodies due to exposure. Last year, I was told that there was no evidence of Hep B in my body. No antibodies for Hep B anymore. So go figure.

I envisioned my body being healed because I believe there is a mind/body connection. I don't care what my doctor said, I am getting this virus out of my body. And you will too, Hobo. Stay focused, determined and positive. You have already defeated the odds placed against you by your physicians.

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BTW: what is red reshie?
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Is that poster right about my liver not being able to regenerate or healing itself out of the 4th stage failure? I'm just really confused about this now.



Hobo, no two people are the same, I wouldn't worry about it too much just yet. You're improving, that should say it all. What a wondrous and beautiful machine...
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Thanks!! It's almost midnight, and I"m still up thinking about that. I know that I'm not going to live forever, It does make me think though, and appreciate each day as it comes.
I guess it's really not up to me anyway.. all I can do is try my best and if that doesn't work for some reason, then the Father's Will be done and that's okay too.
Thank you for your support, I guess I should stay on this form where ya don't get knifes, forks and spoons thrown at ya for mentioning MMS. :-}
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Regenerating out of 4th stage liver failure?
Absolutely.

With abolition of pathogens and superior nutrition it can be done.

Stick with it.

If you have enough liver to be up and sitting at your computer and walking around you have enough liver to regenerate. Ignore the naysayers. Don't let the nay sayers become your slayers.

The problem with conventional medicine is that they have no way to erradicate the pathogens causing the disease and they are clueless about nutrition so how do you expect them to have a positive outlook?
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Now, are you guys taking any CoEnzyme q10, look into the different forms that it comes in and consider Idebeonone.

https://www.smartnutrition.info/JamesSouth-idebenone.htm


Why Idebenone is superior to Co Q10
Enter Idebenone to the rescue! Studies have shown that under the same cellular low oxygen conditions that cause Co Q10 to act as a pro-oxidant producer of damaging free radicals, Idebenone prevents the free radical dam-age and maintains relatively normal cell ATP levels. In short, while Idebenone can effectively substitute for Co Q10's positive and life essential functions, it doesn't have Co Q10's free radical producing and energy crashing "dark side" which occurs under hypoxic (low oxygen) conditions.
Idebenone's potential benefits fall into five categories; antiaging, energy enhancement, cognition enhancement, organ protector and protector against excitatory amino acid neurotoxicity.

(be sure to read point #11 in the article)
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BTW: what is red reshie?
The reshei is an immune builder with a very old history and use, it's a mushroom which has a nic name as an Elixer of Life.
Here is a link that I found that is pretty informative on immune rebuilding too, [about half way down the page on the right hand side is another immune page.]
https://healthforeversupplements.blog...nergy-its.html
Have you ever mixed powdered herbs together to make your own formula?
Sure beats those high prices where you just get a few pills in bottle. For example, look at the ingrediants of the immune support product, so obvious, just a few basic herbs, and you could make 1,000 capsules for the same as you'd pay to buy 100 of those.. I know I've saved a ton of cost by making my own formula's and also adding some extra kick to the pills, such as a little Ginger, which is used to accelerate the uptake of other formulas. :-}
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[QUOTE=Arrowwind09;30700]Now, are you guys taking any CoEnzume q10, look into the different forms that it comes in and consider Idebeonone.

This is a great site, I've never heard of that Idebeonone before, very interesting! Thanks!
I finally got an appointment to get my viral load test done in the morning, should have it back in a week to 10 days... It's kind of hard to keep hammering away with so many does, so often everyday, so I'm getting in about 4 to 6 doses now, but I think the viral load should still read low.
Will be interesting to see where it's at though.:->
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Hobo,

Have you looked into MMS2? Jim Humble says it really makes a difference in the treatment of HIV and people get better results when they use the mms1 and mms2 together. So of course it makes me wonder why not for hep c too? You can go to his site and see what you think.
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I tried to put tumeric powder in capsules once before. Never stuck with it; either too lazy or thought it was too inconvenient. My only concern is that herbs can lack the potency needed to be efficacious. Doing your own herbs is definitely cheaper and you can control what is in it but how do you determine how much is needed to be effective?
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Arrowwind09:

I am using MMS1 and MMS2 for HIV and was hoping to be able to share some great results. I emailed my experiences and results to Jim Humble. I am still taking maintenance dosages of both. Only way for me to know for certain is to take a HIV test anonymously. Eventhough, I am taking HIV med's; I don't believe they are causing HIV as Humble once asserted. Possibly side affects as all medications and OTC products can.

Does anyone know if you are infected once that the antibodies are always present in your body even if allegedly cured?
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I would think that if you have these HIV antibodies you will have them even if the disease is gone.

I have always seemed to be immune to measles. When a place of employment wanted me to get a measles vaccine I declined and had an antibody study done instead. I have antibodies to measles, so likely I had a very mild case as a child that my mom or doctor never picked up on.

The HIV community will be prone to consider you infected if you have antibodies. They really have no way to diagose it otherwise. You might want to get on to another forum to discuss this issue with people who do not believe that HIV virus exists at all... and there are quite a few doctors in this frame of mind also. I think that the more you can understand HIV from both sides of this controversial issue the more you will be able to understand where you are at. Sorry I don't have a link to such a forum right now but I know they are out there.
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Well, Here it goes, I'm trying the MMS for my Hep C, geno type 1b. I have had Hep C since I delivered my last baby in 1986. I had 4 pints of blood at one hospital, then another 2 pints at a different hospital 2 weeks later. I didn't know I had it for 11 years until 1997 when the blood scandal came out and I was tested for it. It was the second hospital that I got the tainted blood. I have been up and down with my liver tests for years. I do try to eat and stay away from booze, but sometimes stress was a HUGE part of my liver tests been high. So, trying to keep that at bay. I have decided not to take the DRUGS the doctors were trying to push on me after seeing people in my Hep C group go through HELL! And then not even working on them. My husband decided to try the MMS with me. My last liver test were done Dec. 21st, 2009 and my liver enzymes went up since July/09. They read; AST>124 (15-45) and ALT>168 (10-65) So, not that great. We started March 16th, 2010 with 2 drops x2/day. Well, it was a good thing we were home for the whole day!! Lets just say it was a good detox day! HAHA! We were feeling really weird, and sleepy. That went on for a few days, but it got better. On March 29th, we got up to 15 dr. X2/day. The next day, it was a real good thing I was home again for the day, 7 times I went running to the bathroom before supper time. I was feeling better over the next day. My husband has been experiencing just slightly been upset stomach, and a little off, he says. I have been pretty good all week, but today, it's going through me again. I will be going for my new tests on April 16th and should get the tests the following week. I'll let you all know. I'm keeping my fingers cross! Have a great day everyone!! Geraldine
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Hi Geraline and welcome to the forum.

We will be looking forward to hearing your test results!

Meanwhile take a look at Hobo's protocol for taking mms on the first page of this thread. Jim Humble's put out a new protocol and it makes it much easier for some folks to take 5 drops every 2 hours than 15 drops 2x day. You might want to give that a try.

I have a friend who does not have hep c but elevated enzymes from fatty liver from many years of drinking. vodka. She changed from vodka to wine in January and did mms. After about 4 weeks her enzymes were almost perfect. Now fatty liver does not go away in one month from just changing to wine. We are sure the mms had everything to do with it. She is feeling great.
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That's kind of a catch 22 thing, Doug, when it come to the potency and the mixing of different herbal formula's, Like it really depends on what herbs you will be taking for what kind of effect etc.. each one is different. Of course it helps to get a good herbal book that show the cross references of all the herbs too, and their actions, usages etc.
I guess second though...if you're really not into the photo chemicals of the planets and know how they interact to compliment each other then it's probably better to skip the mixing of your own.. But the advantage is that you can really do a lot with herbs, especially when you get into brewing them down into higher ratio concentrations and then hydrating the liquids back into powers for some very potent impacts or effects.. I've wasted a lot of batches of herbs doing this also...:-} Takes practice too :-}
It's like the Xiao Chai Hu San liver formula, it's not just a herbal powder that you stuff into capsules.. it's a potent 5 to 1 ratio concentration of the formula. So basically, one 500mg. capsule of it would amount to approx. 2,500mg. of the natural herbal blends.
The Prune Juice that I suggested taking with the MMS1, next time you see it in the store, look at it's composition and benefits... "Energy" "Digestive" health etc. :-}
Just some personal thoughts here...I might be wrong about this, but was just remembering so things I've read in some other studies, about taking Bupleurum Root, [It's a herb that is a viral killer but nothing compared to MMS I'm sure.]
Anyway, It is strongly advisable not to use too much of it at once as it will cause tireness from toxic overload in the body... Wonder if taking stronger doses of MMS does the same? Prehaps the lower doses as Jim suggested helps to maintain the energy levels too? What'ch think?
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